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[Closed] 'trail pack' magic link pliers

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you know the lovely pliers kmc make? does anyone make an occasional use lightweight one which you could stuff in your pack?


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:34 am
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latex gloves I think you mean 😉


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:36 am
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Not seen any but not seen the need, if it's needing split the chain tool is generally in operation


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:37 am
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Do you mean like [url= https://www.bikerumor.com/2016/11/28/clever-standard-makes-quick-work-re-using-chain-quick-links/ ]these[/url] ? Tyre leavers & magic link pliers in one.

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Posted : 29/11/2016 9:39 am
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Those ^ look awesome


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:45 am
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[i]LIKES[/i]


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:50 am
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Ordered 🙂


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:51 am
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^ thats very er, clever !


 
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My concern with that is; If the link is junked up a plastic tyre lever is not going to shift it. If its not junked up you can pop it off with your hands easily. And they look like rubbish tyre levers, so id still be taking a Pedros or TACX levers as well, so what purpose do they actually serve? And why do I need to split the chain at a quick link on the trail anyway!? Much confused.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:00 am
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Short length of gear cable, wrap round and pull in opposing directions (with gloves on) works well


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:01 am
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Ended up with Park Tools link pliers. They are at least one plier instead of two different ones for the job of opening and closing like the KMX ones!

Carried them in the pack for a bit, but still too big and I'm trying to get it down to the point of not using a backpack at all for short rides.

On the trail, if the chain snaps, chain tool to break offending link off (mini tool kit), and then use the force (or pedals at least) to click the new link into place.

Other than that I'd be using the pliers for times I actually need to remove the chain. Noting I got it for 10/11sp KMC as they're much more of a git to remove by hand.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:06 am
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cunning, i'll get her indoors to buy if for me for xmas


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:07 am
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5 sets for 50usd - does anyone else want to link up on a bulk order?

Quicklinks used to come apart manually pretty easily but IME the latest generation *need* mechanical assistance. Someone was carrying a set of pliers on our Basque MTB trip and they got used a surprising amount trailside over the week.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:27 am
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5 sets of those plastic tyre levers with slots for $50? Sign me right up!

Or more likely, buy some cheap On-One or ebay pliers and take a hacksaw to them 😆


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:30 am
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Quicklinks used to come apart manually pretty easily but IME the latest generation *need* mechanical assistance.

My experience too. These look like pretty beefy tyre leavers, so I'd say worth a shot.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:37 am
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I have a set of, I think, KMC ones, in my toolbox, which I use a lot. I think they were about a tenner. I have never had the need to split a link on the trail yet though...


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:48 am
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http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/x-tools-pro-master-link-pliers/rp-prod55925

£5 no problems with them


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:49 am
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As scud says.
Nothing lighter.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:52 am
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Link pliers are now back in the tool box and a short length of gear cable now in my Camelbak. Top tip that!


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:16 pm
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Liking the gear cable trick. Off to rest that out


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:24 pm
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Ended up with Park Tools link pliers. They are at least one plier instead of two different ones for the job of opening and closing like the KMX ones!
Only the new version. I have the originals which only open 🙁 Closing is easy enough though if you rotate the link to above the chainstay, hold the back brake and stamp on the pedal!


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:31 pm
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Have a long enough bit of cable to wrap around each gloved hand in case a really firm pull is needed.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:34 pm
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I have never had the need to split a link on the trail yet though...

This.

Not seen any but not seen the need, if it's needing split the chain tool is generally in operation

And this.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:36 pm
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Have a long enough bit of cable to wrap around each gloved hand in case a really firm pull is needed.

Brute force is all very good (and that's what the tool does), but they work by pushing the plates together then sliding them apart. So I find it easier to just use my fingers 😀


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 12:43 pm
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but they work by pushing the plates together then sliding them apart.

IIRC the 9 speed ones did, the 10 and 11 don't work that way, you need to force them apart, hence being 'single use'. Although I re-use them.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 1:46 pm
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nobeeer - the KMC 10 speed ones are multi-use, the 11 are single use


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 1:50 pm
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and I just noticed that the KMC 10 speed links are down to £2.99 at Halfords at the moment !


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 1:54 pm
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nobeeer - the KMC 10 speed ones are multi-use, the 11 are single use

One can't quite recall, it's been soooo long since I had 10 speed Dahling... 😆


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 2:00 pm
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aye right 🙂


 
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I have never had the need to split a link on the trail yet though...

Nor had I, but managed to mangle my chain somehow whilst riding. Removed bad link and added a quick link but the pin had left a bit of swarf in the chain and I still had a stiff link.

They got used on a couple of other peoples bikes over the week.


 
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I like the look of those levers linked above. But, how do they work?

Looks like they are pressing against the same chain face-plate, and therefore, would be getting nowhere?
Or does one of each opposing lever face not contact the link on that side?

EDIT* just watched vid in link - I see how it works now. Nice.


 
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nobeeer - the KMC 10 speed ones are multi-use

Some are, some aren't. I've had both kinds from KMC (10sp). I've reused them regardless though. The non reusable can be a git to remove.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 7:32 pm
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might invest in a wee pair of these,couldn't split the QL on my new chain for love nor money,are 10sp a lot different from 11sp QL's


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 7:40 pm
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I carry these

[url= http://www.moontrail.com/leatherman-squirt-ps4-p-13192.php ]Little Squirt[/url]


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 8:31 pm
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that's hard plastic they're made of! which isn't the same as strong right enough. but they look good to me.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 9:37 pm
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cut off bit of coat hanger for me


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 10:50 pm
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Seems like a once in a lifetime think (probably happen to me on my next ride now), but wouldn't a chain link removal tool work on a quick link? I always carry a few quick links on me and they're pretty light. But then again the dual use tyre levers look quite good as a just in case measure.


 
Posted : 30/11/2016 7:07 am
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I carry the bbb chain link tool. Anyone who doesn't understand the need to carry one of these tools obviously has not had to fix a 10,11 or 12 chain on the trail


 
Posted : 30/11/2016 8:13 am
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Fella on my mtb leader course carried bent spoke (a bespoke spoke?) that worked really well to open quick links. He'd bent it in half then added a kink on each side too grip the link.


 
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I carry the bbb chain link tool. Anyone who doesn't understand the need to carry one of these tools obviously has not had to fix a 10,11 or 12 chain on the trail

Ive done plenty of 10 speed fixes (dont have 11 or 12), you use a chain tool to remove broken link, fit split-link, rotate it to top run of chain and press on pedal to lock it in place.

Only time ive had to remove an unbroken chain from a bike while on a ride before was when the mech broke, but the chain was kinked at the same time just used the chaintool to split it. Maybe if your chain was fine and you had a spare mech in your pack also?


 
Posted : 30/11/2016 8:27 am