[Closed] Ti Hardtail or full sus?

Don't make the mistake of thinking that a Ti HT will be anything like as comfy as a FS.

Yes they can be made compliant, but they're still a hardtail.

Will i notice a big difference with a ti hardtail or is it boing all the way?

A Ti hardtail will give a [i]slightly[/i] more forgiving ride than your stiffee, but they aren't in the same league comfort-wise as a full suss frame.

A hardtail is still a hardtail no matter what its made from - and I've had Ali, 853 steel, regular steel and Ti ones!

A single-pivot FS will have minimal extra maintenance compared to a HT, so don't let that put you.

The extra maintenance will probably consist of an anual shock service done by someoen else, the occasional air can service (quicker than lubeing a chain IME), pivot bearings don't take long, even on a 4 bar, bushings are the most consumable bit and are quick to do as well if you have a vice.

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Also check your 'position' - maybe you are getting old and would 'benefit' from higher bars 😉

I know that it worked for me.

A decent suspension post may help a little...

I now only run a Ti HT and no, it isn't as comfy as a full sus but I run large volume fast rolling tyres run at lower pressures which really does help.

Don't sit down going over rough stuff, that might help.

Let 5 psi out of the tyres of your Stifee - that'll be about as much extra 'compliance' as you'll get out of a titanium hardtail.

Considered a suspension post? That might take the sting out of things.

3rd - get a thudbuster for longer rides - stopped me selling my Stiffee.
I now use a long twangy Ec70 carbon post for 2hr 'blasts'

I'd spend some money on a bike fit session and not assume that a bit of extra squidge at the back will solve the problem.

It could be a number of causes - I got back pain on a cross bike that was slightly too large for me, for instance or it coudl just be you put mor eeffort in on some rides and you're back muscles aren't used to it.

My lower back is the main issue, after 24/12 at the weekend im still in a lot of discomfort.

Bet there are not many folk about that dont have some type discomfort after doing a 12/24 😉

I would wait until you have stopped hurting before you make any rash decisions on changing kit.

fair point wwaswas, i'll have a look for someone near brighton that can do that...

its not going to stop me researching a new toy though!

I just built up an Enduro frame to see if that is going to stop my lower back problems or not. I suspect it won't as I had noticed the last few weeks it was a lot better on my HT anyway and I was a lot more relaxed riding it.

It will be interesting to see how well it does in stopping the lower back pain or if it was purely down to being over tense when riding.

Jim Kirk - I 'raced' a Stiffee at the weekend, I think I saw your bike, was it a creamy yellow?

I also had an S works Enduro mentioned in this thread. Suffered from lower back pain with that. Moved to the stiffee, realised that it’s a fit issue not the bike as much as you'd think.

I now do not suffer from back pain with the HT. maybe it’s the way you ride, no disrespect! On full sus bikes people sometimes get lazy when riding eg. Sitting down.

On my Stiffee whenever it gets rough I’m on my legs - only sitting down get rid of lactic acid etc. although got a little painful in Morzine.

Any other opinions?

My full suss went back end of last year so hardtails only for this old girl.

A wee experiment a couple of months ago - same route of 55km, same trail conditions (ie dry) on two different hardtails with a couple of weeks apart.

One bike was a Soul so obviously steel, 120mm fork, Thomson seatpost, weight 25 lbs.

Other bike was a Ti, 100mm fork, Ti seatpost, weight 22 lbs.

Wheels, brakes, carbon bar, stem, crankset, flat pedals, saddle - identical on both.

I felt less beat up on the Ti. I love that bike.

Dunno whether that helps? ❓

I have a bad lower back. Ride an FS and HT. The FS is ALWAYS easier on my back. FS is single pivot (Heckler) for minimum maintenance as I am rubbish!

i'll have a look for someone near brighton that can do that..

Enigma in Eastbourne certainly have the capability as they offer it for their bespoke builds. It might be worth contacted them to see if they offer it as a separate service. Of course you may find it hard to leave without ordering one.

Another Softail to consider:

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