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Send the frame back or change tyres??? Hmmm, sure is a tricky one...

If customer has an expectation and requirement for a tyre that a frame doesn't achieve (inspite of assurances), it's quite reasonable to return the frame.


 
Posted : 03/06/2014 9:11 pm
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Northwind.... I dont have the time, tools or opportunity for that. Or the cash to spare if I balls it up.


 
Posted : 03/06/2014 9:12 pm
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Brant, I make the outer diameter 750mm, widest to outer 11-12mm and widest point just shy of 64mm.

Send the frame back or change tyres??? Hmmm, sure is a tricky one...

Not that tricky really. This is not a towpath bike, it's for riding on actual mountains, with rocks and stuff. The wheels might even leave the ground at times.


 
Posted : 03/06/2014 9:12 pm
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Brant, I make the outer diameter 750mm, widest to outer 11-12mm and widest point just shy of 64mm.

many thanks


 
Posted : 03/06/2014 9:13 pm
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That's on a Salsa Gordo rim


 
Posted : 03/06/2014 9:20 pm
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This is not a towpath bike, it's for riding on actual mountains, with rocks and stuff. The wheels might even leave the ground at times.

You mean like a mountain bike?

It's your bike, money and your [i]special[/i] tyre so you can do as you wish, but i think it might just be possible to do all those craaaazy things you mention on a slightly narrow rear tyre. Might be worth considering if you like the frame so much.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 7:55 am
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[i]The wheels might even leave the ground at times. [/i]

you're on the wrong forum, mate.

I'd try the Hans Damf in there and see what it looks like.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 8:00 am
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The rim is everything here. RRs, Ardents etc balloon up on wide rims.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 8:35 am
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[i]The rim is everything here. RRs, Ardents etc balloon up on wide rims. [/i]

this is also true.

I've been running a 2.4 Rubber Queen on a Mavic 819 rim for a little while.

Re-rimmed it to a Blunt 35 (29mm internal diameter) and the clearance on the fork has reduced so much the remaining 'hairs' on the tyre are brushing the brace.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 8:41 am
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That's on a Salsa Gordo rim

So it fits a 2.4" Schwalbe tyre (which are always amongst the widest of 2.4s) on a super-wide rim?

Seems fair enough.

Also - the Hans Dampf is a 2.35 versus the 2.4 Ralph - my 26" HDs are slightly narrower than my 2.4" Nobby Nics.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 9:01 am
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I did some measurements a while back and the difference in rim width doesn't make as much difference to the difference in tyre width as you'd expect. Example- the difference between a 17mm ID and a 22mm ID rim, was only 1.6mm difference in tyre width on a 2.25...


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 9:13 am
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Does anyone have one built up yet? ridden it? Would i be a fool to buy one and replace my el guapo with pikes?


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 11:28 am
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Would i be a fool to buy one and replace my el guapo with pikes?
Replace? I think they would complement each other nicely.


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 12:28 pm
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maybe cycle2work scheme then


 
Posted : 04/06/2014 2:17 pm
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What size is the rear post mount brake for (without adapters), 140mm or 160mm rotor?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 7:47 am
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Can Halfords C2W vouchers be used at Planet X/On-One as I really fancy a Parkside.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 8:29 am
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No you can't use them at PX/oo


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:16 am
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I did some measurements a while back and the difference in rim width doesn't make as much difference to the difference in tyre width as you'd expect. Example- the difference between a 17mm ID and a 22mm ID rim, was only 1.6mm difference in tyre width on a 2.25...

How about 35mm?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:05 am
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Actually I think I will go to Lidl for my Parkside (Oops!)


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:35 am
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Sod it.. I'm keeping it 😆 The taller, narrower Ardent on a Flow fits okay.

Right, where was that headset now...


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:38 am
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Hurrah for common sense!!! 😆


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:45 am
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How about 35mm?

Gordo is 35mm OD apparently, only 30mm ID... I've never had a rim that big to mess with but it's going to be a pretty similiar difference, a couple of mm over say a Flow Ex. Though that's a couple of mm at the widest point of the tyre, which isn't neccesarily where the smallest clearance is.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:54 am
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So Brant out of interest. 650b 120-240mm fork and 2.4 tyres. Much difference?


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 11:06 pm
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Can the travel of the fork be increased to 140mm, and if so how would it ride?


 
Posted : 08/06/2014 10:00 pm
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Can the travel of the fork be increased to 140mm, and if so how would it ride?

No.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:43 am
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What about 50mm rims and 2.4" tyres.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:01 am
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Got mine out in the wild today. Awesome bike.


 
Posted : 17/06/2014 4:28 pm
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What about 50mm rims and 2.4" tyres.

Tyres are circular (ish) with knobly/thicker bits at the top. If you go from a 20mm to a 50mm rim you add 30mm to the circumfrance.

30/3.14=9.5mm, that's about the difference in diameter. It's not exact, there's still the knobly bit to account for, and the rim is actualy flat not part fo the circle, but it'd not hard to guestimate, just divide the difference in inner rim width by 3.14. But there's also the effect of the rim's bead/sidewall, stan's have much lower beads which make the tyre fit them like a lager rim because you;re adding 2-3mm of sidewall to the tyre on each side which bulges out.


 
Posted : 17/06/2014 4:39 pm
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