[Closed] thinking of trading in my 5 spot for......

is your 5 Spot HL ?
If so, wise up.
go get a new shock and new fork. i recommend a monarch 4.2 and a fox float 15mm BT.
then you'll be laughing.
try new bushings in there too - freshen the old girl up nicely, that will 🙂

yep it's an '05 HL. here she is.

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Is it a medium frame? Nah don't keep it - get the Dale and sell me the Turner 😀

if i do hadge you'll be the 1st to know.

I know how you feel, i thought i'd never sell my 06 enduro, fantastic bike, but one day i just found myself getting bored with it, swapped all the part over onto a dialled alpine and really enjoying the change, i'll probably jump back on a full suss again in a year or so but sometime you just need a change.

tlr can you really tell the difference between the hl and the tnt 5 spots ? ive ridden both and cant at all. just curious . cheers

oh and to the op no keep the turner 😉

I'm thinking of getting a Rize, just waiting to find out a price and availability

what? you need help if you'd get rid of one of the best bikes EVER made and buy some piece of crap like a cannondale!

don't do it, you'll regeret it

i swaped mine last year after 3 years but went for something compltely differant, an intense 5.5 EVP

i lke it but the 5 spot is my favourite bike by far

Hmmmm swapping one bike that is sorted and won't break, for one that will break...oooo toughie.

You would be mad to do that swap. Keep the Turner.

thomthumb - Member

what? you need help if you'd get rid of one of the best bikes EVER made and buy some piece of crap like a cannondale!

What's wrong with the Cannondale? Should I avoid getting one or is it a case that it's a mass produced brand and not a boutique brand?

crack and fail 😉 tho ive had two and cracked neither lol. i gave my turner some luving recently and its got new wheels and a gd post oh and some m4's 😉

Bloody hell its like a broken record "cannondale, Ooh Crack and fail". TURN IT IN!!

That was years ago. Cannondale are one of only a few manufacturers that offer a lifetime warranty on there frames, would you do that on something that kept failing?

Bet you won't go near a skoda either, even though they are essentially a volkswagen.

As for the bike choice, as said above, maybe a bit of an ugrade will break the phase otherwise a rize is a good choice. Or if your after something a bit different Chumba frames have started appearing on here recently might be worth a look at

cheers

get a test ride and if you like it sell the turner.

Bloody hell its like a broken record "cannondale, Ooh Crack and fail". TURN IT IN!!

That was years ago. Cannondale are one of only a few manufacturers that offer a lifetime warranty on there frames, would you do that on something that kept failing?

So you haven't heard about the new Moto's breaking then? I have.

My 2004 with new paint and new forks and bigger brakes.Great fun! You won't regreat revamping the old girl!
Thanx Max

i would buy a skoda [i]because[/i] its a vw

there is just something wrong with cannondales

Your going to sell one of the best bikes ever to buy a run of the mill albeit good production bike.

5spot owner

as i said ruminant ive had two cannondales and broke neither 😉 but id still rather keep the turner

lol gotta love the "its boutique therefore nothing else compares" attitude.

I have to admit, the 5 spot is a nice bike (cant really go wrong with a HL frame), but there nothing special!

Ive had my dale for a while now and its a fantastic bike (not a rize but an 05 prophet 4x) ace geometry, simple, climbs pretty well (Pushed Vanilla R),descends extremely well.

If you fancy one give it a go!

Or if your going to revamp the old bike, new bushes, dump the horrendous DHX Air for some RP2 or 23 action(with a PUSH upgrade if your feeling flush) and get the forks serviced with some enduro seals. Dont bother with getting new forks for the "15mm" its not worth it.

Mick as if they'd ever admit to not being able to tell the difference!

[i]lol gotta love the "its boutique therefore nothing else compares" attitude.[/i]

lol well ive had two dales and now on a turner nowt to do with boutique its just a better bike than the previous dales i had 😉

Since buying my 5-Spot in 05, I've had (and mostly sold on) a Turner 6-Pack, Cove Stiffee, Ti 456, Ibis Mojo, Titus Motolite, and a DW Spot. Despite some of these being better in certain areas than the original 5-Spot, I'll never sell it. In fact I've just had it resprayed yellow, and have built it up with coil Lyrics just for laughs and love it! Don't sell - it's a classic and you'll end up regretting it!!

Wasnt aimed at you "Mick(firestarter)" 🙂

Its really down to personal preference,

Ive owned a 5 spot and didnt get on with it at all (or any HL suspension bike for that matter).

Yes nothing to do with boutique, i also feel people that people buy too many bikes , hardtail, full suss , ss,road, jump / 4x changing it every few months or year. Have one bike and ride it till it dies, i had my last bike for 9 years till it died, i think to many people read the magazines and have to jump on all the band wagons , new forks every year for minimal increases in performance , try using the same SID forks for 9 yrs and then getting some 08 pikes with 20mm axle. Feels like your getting your money's worth. plus i'm poorer than most on here

Seen a Rize in the flesh?
Bloody lovely they are.

lol cynic-al like i say ive ridden the hl and now own the tnt and cant tell the difference i even tried the other month (as i keep hearing the old hl is better tale ) when out with my mate on his hl we swapped a few times and couldnt really tell owt different really (apart from my shock is pushed so was better ;-))

😆 well ive had two dales and now on a turner nowt to do with boutique its just a better bike than the previous dales i had

A new bike is always the best bike in the world

well there is that rs but my new one is a 456 and ive been riding only that for the last couple of weeks while the turner gathers dust lol best i go hide in the corner 😉

Try it, and try to decide when the fires of consumerism have burnt out a bit. I'm forever buying stuff I don't need and regretting it ... Jones H bars, Rohloff hubs, Eriksen seatposts, Forge shifters to name a few have all come and gone (through Classifieds).

My 5 Spot nearly got sold, but I'm so glad I didn't. An Argos paint job (beautiful green, it is), 5.5 rockers, RP23 & Pikes have made it a fantastic ride (that DHX Air fitted to the 05 vintage was a disaster). Couldn't resist PUSHing the forks and the shock, though.

Lastly, take you beer goggles off. That Rize is like lusting after a fat lass* after 10 pints - won't seem such a smart move in the morning, when you've already got a jaw-dropping beauty at home.

*Obviously, you may go in for the fuller-figure but that's up to you. No insult intended to any plus-sized lady readers of this thread, but if you are one and are reading this then GET SOME BLOODY EXERCISE.

Farticus, could you really tell the difference between the DHX air and RP23? I've got the DHX air on my 05 hl spot, and it feels great, more so the harder I ride it, it's super absorbant on jump landings - just comes into it's own. I've not had any stuck down problems, so maybe I've got a good one!

I have a Rohloff on my hardtail, and I love that too, so maybe we just have different tastes.

Back to the poster's original question - I would do it, keep the spot.

Farticus, could you really tell the difference between the DHX air and RP23?

Yes - absolutely night & day different. With the DHX it always felt soggy, whenever I stood in the pedals it felt dreadfully soft & energy-sapping. I had it for 3 years and tried all sorts of adjustments, but none gave a ride that was anywhere as near as good as my old XCE (which ran a PUSH'd Vanilla RC).

The RP23 gives a much tauter feel (esp. as I have full pro-pedal on it) - I can stand on the pedals and it doesn't move much at all. Much more stable and still soaks up the bumps nicely. Whether any of that is due to having it PUSH'd I don't know. What I do know is that it now rides as well as the old XCE.

i thought my anthem didnt bob much til i got the turner with pushed rp23 i dont even mess with the various positions now i just run it fully open all the time

Whats the difference between a Turner and an old Giant AC. They always look the same to me? (Promise not a troll, the AC design I found a bit bobby. Like Mick said about the turner it would have probably been better with a newer shock)

I got my 5spot in May 05.

Its the best 'all-round' bike I've ever ridden, but its just a bike. There are probably better bikes out there these days, but the 5spot, at least for me, has killed that whole 'I-need-a-new-bike-every-12months' thing that most of us seem to suffer from.

When that itch comes back (I'm sure it will) then I'll be doing some very serious research and test riding before I take the plunge.

Seems to me you have the itch. Go and scratch it.
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it stopped my itch too but i then got another one a hardtail itch lol hence the new 456 🙂 im hoping i dont want to scratch any thing else for a while now lol

Funnily enough, I've ended up with the 5spot and a 456 too.

Nice to have the variety and I think it helps with the new-bike-itis.

My 5 Spot came with a DHX Air shock and I found it horrible. A completely dead feel when riding. I was lucky at the time as my Intense 5.5 had the same shock length so I fitted a Pushed RP23 and it was way way better. But a chance came along to fit a DHX Coil with a ti spring fitted and that was the best, most plush ride I ever had. So controlled and just superb in every department. I know the coil DHX was heavier but the ti spring meant some weight was lost but the way it worked more than made up for that.

There's something going on ... I, too, have a HL 5 Spot and a (Ti)456. Mind you, the 456 is now a commuter, tackling the challenges of London's towpaths.

Hadge -As I recall you had a 5spot some time ago, then a Yeti?

Why are you looking at getting a 5spot again?

I sold my 5 spot a few years back after riding various Turners for a few years. Fancied a change so tried a few other sus frames (spesh enduro etc) and now have another 5 spot! I'd try a different shock on yours. I run a nice Pushed Vanilla RC on my 5 spot with some pikes up front and big tyres, short stem- pretty burly. Slightly tweaked the cockpit set up and it's much better than my old set-up.

Properly test ride the cannondale before making a decision. Turners can be pretty neutral riding wise. Good allrounders but not super thrilling at anything in particular. The plus side is that they require little servicing and I've yet to damage any of my frames.

In my case I tend to ride the same local trails most of the time, so a new bike tends to make them seem a bit different/fresh. Probably not the right reason for buying a new bike.

some people with good taste in bikes here lol 🙂

There's an awful lot of prejudice against Cannondale's, especially from those of us old enough to remember the frames they made in the mid-90's. Even back then they had a lifetime warranty and I seem to recall that one particular frame had a 100% failure rate.

Personally I've always regarded Cannondale as overpriced, but they never shy away from interesting design and recent bikes seem to have had great reviews.

But I can see why you might be getting a little bored of the Turner. As Mrtrotter says the handling is very neutral, but I am still amazed after three years just what my Flux will let me get away with.

Ride the 'Dale though and see what you reckon, single pivots definitely have their own charms!

Thanks for all the responses.

I would like to add I'm a long time admirer of Cannondales and over the years I've owned 6 or 7 of them. The one thing holding me back from getting rid of the 5 spot is that it is the only bike that from new felt just right. Most bikes I've owned I've had to spend a bit of time loathing them and changing parts and in the end getting used to them. I never had that with the 5 spot, from day one it felt sorted. It's still an great bike to ride, but I just keep seeing these Cannondales in Evans and they have really caught my eye.
I kinda guess I'm pleased that the general concensus is keep the Turner.

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Farticus - Member

That Rize is like lusting after a fat lass* after 10 pints - won't seem such a smart move in the morning, when you've already got a jaw-dropping beauty at home

The jaw dropping beauty being an old rebadged Kona 4 bar?

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Seriously, why are do so many of the 5 Spots need different or retuned shocks?

Scienceofficer - I had a 5.5 Intense & 5 Spot, sold them then I had a 575, which I've just sold. Got a nagging injury that means keeping a high priced bike as a commute a bit silly. I've got all the kit build another cheap 5" travel bike and I found the 5 Spot the best ride - as in the plushest of any of the above bikes. It was probably a bit tongue in cheek asking to buy the 5 Spot. I'm not getting into the discussion as to which would be better - Dale or Spot but if it was available cheap I'd have itI suppose. My new commute is nearly finished anyway and don't worry it's nowt special but it will do lol.

Interesting comments Farticus, but I don't bother myself too much with 'bob' concern when standing on the pedals, it's a full suss bike, if you stand then it'll move - is the way I look at it. I don't bother with fork lockout either. Mine is set up not so xc, so none of that bothers me. I wouldn't mind a good coil over shock for it sometime though.

A very good point woodsman, the fact is that a full suss bike will move with your weight shifts.

People get quite upset by this seemingly unreasonable behaviour!