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I ordered a pair of those Shimano Windbreak Thermal gloves -tried them out this am - probably 4deg and dry - very disappointed - very little improvement in terms of warmth over the old pair of Endura Singletrack gloves (not exactly what you'd call a winter glove!) I've been using to date. Seems that once they get wet with a bit of sweat the Thermal Metallic jiggerypokkery gives up the ghost and hands just feel freezing. Waste of money in my opinion.
I've used Fox ranger waterproof gloves for around 3 months last winter and since mid Nov this year, initially I was more than impressed as they feel very much like a normal summer glove. They also did an insulated waterproof version(think it's the fire defend glove but not sure) but the rangers were warm enough. Noticed last weekend that the stitching is coming away around the wrist on both gloves, probably due to them not having a velcro fastening, being a tight fit and therefore needing to be pulled by the cuff to get your hand in. A few weeks ago I would've recommended them without a doubt but very much doubt I'd buy again, £35 and only lasted around 4 months so unless they're a fair bit cheaper I'd avoid. Wish I'd kept the receipt now
I bought dissents literally as the weather turned in the spring so haven’t used the outers yet.
The thin liners go really well with a pair of Macwet gloves and I would heartily recommend them as the next step down from the dissent outers.
Update: I did about 100km last Sunday, it was cold (frosty) and wet. My hands were cool but not uncomfortably cold, which I think is a good result for relatively thin gloves in those conditions.
Have the Endura Pro SLs arriving tomorrow, will test against Galibier Barriers with silk liners in both (one one each hand :p), hopefully they're a tad better, but realistically I doubt they're warmer only a bit sleeker.
I used the Rooster Hot Hands as liners under my 100% Briskers which is enough for me on any wet rides approaching 0.
Imagine them under a more substantial glove would be good for pretty cold temps.
How does rooster hot hands compare to silk liners? Bulkier but also hotter?
Asked rooster if they'd rec hot hands (neoprene) or polypro (fleece) inners for cycling:
"For cycling, I would go for the PolyPro glove liner. The inner is brushed and feels soft on the hand, the material is also moisture wicking and would be more comfortable on handlebars for any length of time."
I've not tried silk liners before but I can see why you'd prefer a brushed lining if they provide the same warmth.
I got the hot hands based on recommendations and they've always kept me warm enough on wet, cold rides to the extent where hands have come out a bit clammy (which is where a brushed lining would help) which is massively better than freezing!
I'll have to try the PolyPro in a few years when these are worn out.
Probably worth clarifying that a below 0 ride is pretty unusual in South Wales so if it's properly cold, my combo may not be enough.
First test of the Endura Pro SL vs Galibier Barrier both with silk liners at 5C, both warm enough, Endura might be a tiny bit colder but otherwise prefer it - sleek! Next will do a linerless test at 0C :>
Endura's are going back, they look great but are inferior to Galibiers Barrier gloves in 3 important ways:
1. They're colder, too cold at 7C without liners for me.
2. They don't offer more dexterity, maybe less - feels like their liner slips around making the grip feel less solid than in the 50g pr glove heavier Barriers, also the fingers are a bit too long and cut square.
3. They're more than twice the price.
those bar mitts in the image on page 1 are the answer. Fugly as hell and, no, you can't use the drops (well, you can but can't access the levers in a meaningful way)
You get to wear much thinner gloves, though
Galibiers plus silk liners are good enough for 0C sub 1 hour rides (all I do) so I'm happy, don't want to faff around with bar mitts and do want to use the drops.
Perhaps fleece or merino liners would be even warmer.
Summary: You can't have your cake and eat it too.