[Closed] The rise of rudeness on this forum ?

Secret squirrel has hit the nail on the head for me
+1 etc

Hope I haven't tempted fate ... just posted a simple tecchie question 😕

(IOW, what's simple for others isn't necessarily so simple for me!)

Also agree with the Squirrel.

Do you remember when the internet started? Everyone was nice to each other

I do, and I can very much vouch for the fact that this wasn't the case. (-:

Can we all stop liberal breast-beating and hand-wringing now? 🙂

blimey, that was a load of right-on, back slapping, my idea of the internet is better than your idea of the internet.

Here's a picture of a dog dressed as Yoda.

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ps. hora smells.

Hmmmm a dog that dresses like me it be.

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Right.

The only time I get really really annoyed is when I try and contribute something valid and someone tells me I'm an idiot and I've been easily led by some nonsense. That really winds me up, since my personal life is largely taken up by an impassioned search for knowledge, truth and understanding...

So that's basically TJ. I think he's a decent enough bloke, but he just refuses point blank to accept anything I say if I disagree with him, because he seems to think I'm genuinely stupid.

And when I point out that he is just not quite as well informed as some other people, he goes quiet and then comes back a few months later to do the same damn thing.

Do say:

"Well that's an interesting idea, that's not how I understood it - perhaps you could clarify and maybe we can both learn something"

Don't say:

"You're an imbecile!"

I did threaten to punch him, but I was in no way ever going to do this clearly. And he knew it too. It was just catharsis 🙂

I like very much the dog dressed as Yoda. It's as if it knows it looks stupid, and is internalising the whole degrading episode.

It makes me laugh.

my personal life is largely taken up by an impassioned search for knowledge, truth and understanding

This is almost Poddy-esque in its grandeur. I approve.

🙂

my personal life is largely taken up by an impassioned search for knowledge, truth and understanding

judging by the evidence with mixed results :o)

Do you remember when the internet started? Everyone was nice to each other

I do, and I can very much vouch for the fact that this wasn't the case. (-:

So you started all the beef! You fiend

What a beautiful time when it was all "wow you're on the other side of the world!!!" "yeah I can't beleive this internet thing it's amazing!"

Novelty only satisfies for so long. Now I'm so jaded I don't even care about insulting some tool in korea, who I'll never meet, over the finer details of a phone I may never even buy. [i]What's.... happened to me ma?![/i] 😳

Top [jokey]put down SFB see that is what stw is good at humorous intelligent banter

judging by the evidence with mixed results :o)

I said the search, not the discovery 🙂

EDIT: it was a pretty obvious set-up, junky 🙂

Now, now....

LOL at the crab poster.
I like the way people think that this forum is bad, it's not, it's really quite civilised. You should have been on Usenet in its heyday. There were court battles that affect the way that all of us use the internet now and there was also a Usenet murder. Unfortunately the geeky nature of the media and the cost to ISPs have all but killed it. Shame, because it was far faster, more user friendly and reliable than web forums. The unmoderated language would have had a few here running off to mum though.

The internet is used mainly by IT bods. These are traditionally quite geeky, picky types that aren't known for their atheleticism or physical assertiveness

I did threaten to punch him, but I was in no way ever going to do this clearly. And he knew it too. It was just catharsis

accepted

Thing is Molgrips - everything you say there about me equally applies to you from my point of view

,......... but he just refuses point blank to accept anything I say if I disagree with him, because he seems to think I'm genuinely stupid.

And when I point out that he is just not quite as well informed as some other people, he goes quiet........

However - you rarely get personally offensive as some do on here despite what I admit was provocation from me. I am sure I am right but I could have been more diplomatic.

I'll not debate diet with you anymore as it is simply pointless.

The internet is used mainly by IT bods. These are traditionally quite geeky, picky types that aren't known for their atheleticism or physical assertiveness

i love this quote, if you are looking for the answer then its not far away from here 😉

Thing is Molgrips - everything you say there about me equally applies to you from my point of view

No, not at all - not in the case of diet. You've not tried to explain why you're right and I'm wrong, have you? I have offered the reasoning behind my point of view, but you haven't for yours.

All you say is 'that's so much drivel I can't even begin to start so I won't bother' when really it's textbook stuff, a lot of which came from my coach. Ie not pulled out of thin air.

So you see why I get annoyed?

The internet is used mainly by IT bods. These are traditionally quite geeky, picky types that aren't known for their atheleticism or physical assertiveness

a) it's not mainly used by IT bods and
b) it's a sport forum, so lots of fit active outdoor types on here.

Molgrips - I have studied human physiology at university to a reasonably high level.

This is turning into a very refreshing read - got me gripped 🙂

molgrips 10/1

tj 13/2

'that's so much drivel I can't even begin to start so I won't bother'

A common thing from TJ unfortunately. But that illustrates what has already been said.

Imagine how boring the world would be if we all had the same opinion?!

Molgrips - I have studied human physiology at university to a reasonably high level

Well you either got a degree in a subject or you didn't!?

I'm now confused. Which is better; studying human physiology at university to a reasonably high level, or spending one's life engaged in an impassioned search for knowledge, truth and understanding?

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a) it's not mainly used by IT bods and
b) it's a sport forum, so lots of fit active outdoor types on here.

yep. its the attitude in the quotes that causes the problems (if they really exist). As in everyday life its the people with preconceptions of themselves and others that cause disharmony, particularly on the internet, where their limited ability at non-verbal communication is tested to self-destruction.

fun though

EDIT: my money is on TJ if only for his staying power. Molgrips will eventually have to go to bed and TJ will claim victory 🙂

non-verbal communication is tested to self-destruction.

fun though

an education one might say...

I have studied human physiology at university to a reasonably high level

But how long ago, there's been a lot of developments in human biosciences in the last 20 years and they're not all on Wiki......

Molgrips - I have studied human physiology at university to a reasonably high level.

Back on the other thread then - I want you to explain the subject.

See (back on topic) the issue is not that I want to be proved right - I don't care, the facts are as they are and I want to know them.

What I take exception to though is you telling me I'm an idiot. That's not fair and it's very insulting. If I'm wrong and you really know why, then set me straight - it should be easy, shouldn't it?

a)[i] it's not mainly used by IT bods[/i] and
b) [b]it's a sport forum, so lots of fit active outdoor types on here.[/b]

So....
You're now arguing about the way you should argue?

Re 2) I didn't say we were all experts, I simply said there are a lot of outdoor active people on here. Which is true.

[b]3. People on STW who post or answer posts like to help people and contribute or just want to learn what others have through trial and error. And do ride quite a lot, are not fat and also enjoy biking[/b]

Sorry bit of a sweeping statement there Surf-Mat and not all of us work in IT 🙂

I have nothing to add, so here's a picture of a sausage dressed as a bee dog instead.

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I'm not feeling the lourve..... I thought we were all going to play nice ? We should just agree to disagree and then lets all go riding together. I'm up for it.

Blimey thats a HUGE image 🙁 Still downloading 🙁

Edit: Funny 🙂

Sorry bit of a sweeping statement there Surf-Mat and not all of us work in IT

I did try pointing that out earlier. As a result I now have a job in IT, am overweight and am "amusing".

My new imaginary life sucks.

I find most threads start to degenerate as soon as either simonfbarnes or TandemJeremy join in 😉

I did try pointing that out earlier. As a result I now have a job in IT, am overweight and am "amusing".

My new imaginary life sucks

Full marks for that riposte!

12 - 24 - 16 - HUT HUT!

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The world's longest conveyor belt apparently.

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Can I just say that I particularly like Molgrips, but I do feel he's losing his touch. There was a time when any question involving the word 'training' or 'racing' set off his painstaking explanation of how he'd learned that the best way to train is to cycle continuously for weeks at a time at a level where your heart rate is actually below your resting pulse. Before he did that, he thought he was fit because he could survive six hour trail rides, but racing pairs he was unable to sustain a heart rate above 70 bpm for longer than 20 seconds or so, etc. After spending decades cycling at sub-resting heart rate pace, he became an Olympic cycling champion and an expert on nutrition.

I may have missed some bits out, but I think that was pretty much the gist of it 🙂

Hmm - tis turning into a slanging match now - hmm forum reverting to form 😉

Sort of going back to the OP.

I love the way when someone actually needs real advice or support they generally get it - ptesgaff thread is one but there have been others

I also want to say that I have learned lots of good stuff on here and it has encouraged me to push my riding further.

I don't think overall its any ruder than it has been since I joined. a couple of fairly unpleasant folk on the forum but they are a tiny minority. a fair few exasperating ones but thats just life.

TBH compared to the road cycling section of BR, this forum is all sweetness and light.

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My collection of trolls. They all have names and particular proerties. Some may have alter egos
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If you can't feel the lourve, here's a reminder

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I have no useful contribution to make!

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I'm now confused. Which is better; studying human physiology at university to a reasonably high level, or spending one's life engaged in an impassioned search for knowledge, truth and understanding?

There's only one way to find out...

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Bother.

Oooops, think the taste police might raise an eyebrow at that, Cougar...

Cougar has 12 mins to edit.

Will he make it?

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*coughs* Move along, nothing to see here.