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I'm a 46 in normal shoes so I ordered 47s to allow some sock room but they are tight across the shoe with just everyday "trekking" type socks, never mind winter thickies. I've requested an exchange for 48s but they'll look like clown shoes. I should be a 46 according to the measurement chart, I must have especially wide feet.
I was also hoping they'd be year round shoes to replace my 5-10 EPS.
Adidas have been known for ages to make v small shoes. I'm normally EU44, but regularly have to go up one or two sizes for adidas
have had a non-goretex pair for a while - really pleased with them - sizing was the same as I usually wear.
Has anyone bought these who also have the standard pair? Am just wondering if I'll need to size up
i'm a UK9 in the majority of shoes, I'm a 9 in the trailcross low shoe (summer socks), a 9.5 in the standard Mid boot (fits 1 thin & 1 regular merino socks or sealskinz) , although i reckon a 1/2 size down for one pair of socks in summer,
i've decided to keep the UK10 in the goretex,
the 9.5 had no wiggle room and felt a little tight across the instep with a thick merino sock,
I'm sure it would have broken in a little, the uk10 is big at the toe, but foot feels stable..
and i'll only use winter..
@stevemorg2, I've got the Goretex and standard Mid boot here at the moment. The feel equally sized to me, although I sized up from a UK11 to 11.5 for these compared to my normal footwear size after measuring my foot length and going off Adidas' size guide.
Wouldn't be STW without a reply contradicting one directly above 🙂
And thanks @the00 for earlier reply - that's pure ****in' tropical temps here in Scotland.
I'm not wearing mine til it's actually winter- I don't see them as allrounders at all. Breathable can only do so much.
Gave these their biggest test yet yesterday, in combination with waterproof trousers with tight-ish ankle cuffs, and non-waterproof socks. It was a joy to not even think about avoid puddles, and to just hose everything down at the end and leave them to drip dry.
Still got the rear bottom half of my socks damp, as I half-expected, just about enough to feel the coldness after a couple of hours. The cuff of course isn't totally waterproof as it opens up with velcro. Once water gets in the top due to upsplash, socks just wick it all the way down.
According to old STW wisdom, the next step seems to be putting some cut-off kitchen marigold gloves over the top of the neoprene cuff.
Mine too got a their first test today, and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
Shimano MT9 were better but fell apart.
Giro Terraduro have been good, but for SPD.
I got a set and though the fir is OK it is definitely snug compared to my Freerides. The sole is definitely less grippy as well. Having said that wearing them with long riding trousers means they don't fill up with water!
I've actually found the fit is more generous that expected having read this thread and wish I hadn't gone a half size up. They're definitely just a winter shoe for me as the narrower design of them means they dont fit all that well on my burgtec pedals so you have to be really careful otherwise you get foot slippage. The sole is also more flexible compared to my impact pros so on anything technical I get foot cramps. They didnt withstand decathlon trousers and a fast as possible in soaking wet conditions grandad dad and the dentist. Took about 5 days to try them out as once the waters in, its in!
Had mine on their first spin yesterday. It wasn't raining but there was plenty of standing water\mud from heavy overnight rain. was wearing long trousers that went over the neoprene cuffs. Happy to report dry feet at the end of the spin. I was wearing light socks and they felt perfect temp wise on a reasonably mild day and room enough for heavier socks. Nowhere near as warm as my Vaude Moab boots which are definitely winter only (and a brilliant waterproof winter boot). I thought the grip from the sole was perfect. Very happy with the purchase assuming they don't fall apart. Nothing suggests they will as they seem well put together. Bought for €120 (with 20% off adidas new customer code) which I think is a reasonable price for a solid piece of wet weather footwear).
Does everyone know that the Five Ten logo is both a 5 and a 10? I didn't until my 3 year old pointed it out....
A number of the guys I ride with have bought these, all happy except one.
We don't really know what he's doing, apart from getting wet feet on the same ride we're not - but that comment from "the00" made me wonder "has the unhappy one got a front fender?". And I can't remember.
Got to agree with this:
Mine too got a their first test... and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
and this ( apart from the naming of the 3 Witches of course 🙂 )
They didnt withstand .... a fast as possible in soaking wet conditions grandad dad and the dentist. Took about 5 days to try them out as once the waters in, its in!
For the first third of my ride my feet were dryer than everyone's else's. For the middle third they were just as wet as everyone else's. For the last bit everyone else's feet were starting to dry out a bit and mine were still like sloshing about in goldfish bowls full of water.
Bearing in mind that this was on a day with ZERO precipitation, I didn't really see the point of them. Have kept them in the hope that they work well on dry cold days with the very occasional puddles.
Mine too got a their first test today, and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
Feel like I’m stating the obvious here, but anyway, really? You are disappointed/shocked/surprised that the big hole at the top let water gravitate downwards into the shoe? 🤦♂️
I’ve worn mine a few times now, in both the rain & aftermath, my feet have been dry, but I you know, wear them with trousers that cover the top. It’s almost miraculous the water doesn’t run down my leg & straight into the shoe 😆
They aren’t as good as the new Spec’ shoes in terms of grip, but they are still decent. They are a good addition to the winter wardrobe.
They look just like my Ruccanor windsurfing boots circa 1979
Yeah what Hob-Nob said, but I've found them to be really grippy and now using them for pretty much every ride rather than my freeride pros.
IME any waterproof footwear be that socks, shoes or overshoes suffers when water runs down the legs.
My goretex 5:10s have been all good after the first outing with them. I was wearing shorts as it wasn't raining but there were plenty of puddles. The tops of the socks I was wearing ended up getting wet (they were above the neoprene ankle) which then soaked in to the rest of the socks and into the shoes. Since then I have worn them with trousers and made sure the socks are below the ankle cuff and they've kept my feet dry even in a heavy downpour.
Does everyone know that the Five Ten logo is both a 5 and a 10? I didn’t until my 3 year old pointed it out….
Oh yeah... No I hadn't noticed that and I've owned FiveTens since before they made bike shoes! I'm not sure if that's my failing or theirs TBH. Either way your 3yo is a smart one.
Would ankle gaiters help deflect some spray away from the top of the boots?
Agree with @golfchick, there's a bit odd size wise, long enough in prob a normal size but quite narrow. I've worn mine a few times (not raining but wet) and so far feet stayed dry. Grip seems okay as well.
I am wearing MTB trousers for the first time this year and I'm sure that makes a massive difference. Not tried the shoes with a waterproof sock, might be a bit of an issue getting foot past the cuff.
Defo warm enough for now, Another Vaude Moab user her for the grim. Going into their third winter.
The tops of the socks I was wearing ended up getting wet (they were above the neoprene ankle) which then soaked in to the rest of the socks and into the shoes.
Cotton socks?
Cotton socks?
Just some normal Adidas sport socks. Wearing the same ones folded down under the cuffs and with trousers on has been fine.
Starting to consider a pair of waterproof flat shoes. Very curious to hear from anyone who has both the Trailcross and the Vaud Moabs:
- grip
- how warm
- durability (too soon?)
Wearing the same ones folded down under the cuffs ....
resulted pretty quickly in bleeding shins for me.
The Moab is a beast of a shoe, Far more material (and so a lot heavier) the the trail cross. It's a bit of a mission to get your feet in sometimes if they are cold, I always leave mine by the radiator, quite a stiff material esp compared to the 5-10s, but
Grip - good no issue at all. Maybe not quite 'stealth' but since I'm using the in horrible muddy conditions and my feet stay on the pedals, I'm calling them good enough. It's quite a stiff sole which doesn't help but I really don't remember losing my feet in two years of filthy riding.
Warm - toasty 🙂 As they are waterproof (and they really are, I've ridden through rivers) once your feet are warm they stay warm. I sometimes run a 'double socker' when it's really (sub zero) cold. And I do suffer from cold feet but the moabs will keep your warm through winter. Bit to warm for now.
Durability - just looked at mine. Apart from being caked in last years mud they look unmarked. Sole still has plenty on it, just a few pin marks but no sign of that 5-10 collapse you get. Uppers look absolutely fine, laces, velcro etc ready to do battle with another winter.
They are also ethically sourced. I'm a big fan as you can tell.
Too narrow. Nowhere for my big toes to go on those.
Old Five Tens were much wider.
Any more reports on the Vaude vs Trailcross thing?
Moving to Switzerland in a week, will cycle to work daily on the first 2 months through the worst of winter there, so have one week to decide if I invest in a pair of waterproofs and which ones.
Thanks!
Feel like I’m stating the obvious here, but anyway, really? You are disappointed/shocked/surprised that the big hole at the top let water gravitate downwards into the shoe? 🤦♂️
Yes, after all the fanfare and excitement about these, I'd kind if assumed there was something special about them to justify the astronomical price. I've owned numerous kayaking drycags and drysuits that dealt quite comprehensively with the various big holes by providing a decent waterproof seal. If a drysuit can cope with extended actual emersion in huge waterpressures then I don't reckon it's too much to expect a shoe to cope with a bit of spray running down your leg.
🙂😘🤭 etc
Excactly. These goretex FiveTens are a full on winter shoe. They're not just a normal shoe or boot with goretex. They have a full neoprene liner inside. That's why they're so warm and why any water doesn't drain out. I'm sure they're a fine winter shoe, but they are not a shoulder season or mixed conditions shoe. The normal BS laces means that they are only effective when worn with trousers. Trousers are fine in the winter, but goes to reinforce that these are a winter only shoe.
So disappointed with my goretex experiment that I bought some Five Ten Freerider Pro Mid VCS shoes. These are a much better solution for me. They have a similar sock construction, but they're thinner and more breathable. My feet stay a more comfortable temperature. And the Velcro straps keep spray out better than laces.
First ride on mine the other night. Kept my feet dry on both crossings of the river so that was encouraging. I'll mostly be riding with trousers through winter so sock soak shouldn't be an issue. Nice feel through the sole and grip spot on of course. Hopefully they stand up to properly wet winter riding.
Just ordered a pair, £105 still with discount code.
Pain in the arse to get on first few times,Very comfy to wear from the off.waterproof enough, but for me not warm at all even with a decent woolie boolie sock🤷🏼♂️
Hopefully they stand up to properly wet winter riding.
I think we've already established that they don't.
So disappointed with my goretex experiment that I bought some Five Ten Freerider Pro Mid VCS shoes. These are a much better solution for me. They have a similar sock construction, but they’re thinner and more breathable. My feet stay a more comfortable temperature. And the Velcro straps keep spray out better than laces.
I ordered both. Sent the goretex back. The Pro Mid with a waterproof sock is now my wet winter option. Works really well.
Tried mine properly for the first time today, dry conditions but a couple of stream crossings and didn’t let any water in. Feet were nice and cosy too. Grip seemed fine, had to move my foot position a little further out as the heel is a little wider than my other 5:10 older Freeriders, newer Freerider Pros or Sleuths.
Interesting comments about the new Freerider Pro Mid. How do they fare with some showers and mud (not being submerged)?
They have perforations on the toes, so aren’t waterproof. Only have the round treads as well, so not mud pushing friendly, just like all the freeriders. Great to not have wet muddy laces to deal with though, and the “sock” helps keep rain and mud out just fine.
I’ll mostly be riding with trousers through winter so sock soak shouldn’t be an issue.
It happened to me, ymmv. The cuffs of my Fox Flexair trousers fit tight over the top of the top of the shoe, but the shoe is only waterproof up to the bottom of the velcro closure, and also when pedalling it rides up to expose a small gap. Half my socks were wet through wicking on a dry ride over slightly wet ground.
but for me not warm at all even with a decent woolie boolie sock
Nothing special about the warmth, but for me they're fine on normal parts of an MTB ride. Today was 6deg, not windy, I wore them with trousers and All Weather Sealszkinz mids. After a 5km road descent in 15mins, my toes were cold.
@bikesandboots interesting that they list those socks you have as against frostbite, but they aren't the "cold weather" model?
I prefer Dexshell. I used to have Sealskins but they didn't stretch well and felt too rubbery. My Dexshell DS663 feel loads better, almost, but not quite like "normal" thick socks, but are really summer socks (1/5).
Going into winter in a much colder region (relocated) I'm now going to have to buy the correct rated socks. Looking at the DS634 model, but not sure if they'll be too warm for riding (5/5 rating, sweaty feet issues). DS636 and DS625 are 4/5. Price varies between £25-40, gotta shop around.
Note: For sizing, add half a size. I think they're at least half a size under. Here in China I am size CN48.5(UK13//US14), and the XL (47-49) only just fits.