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The trailcross goretex has finally released
£150 so £20 more than the regular trailcross
Seems reasonable for a goretex shoe with mountain bike in the name

https://www.scotbycycles.co.uk/products/five-ten-trailcross-gxt-mountain-biking-shoes?utm_campaign=emailmarketing_115061260372&utm_medium=email&utm_source=shopify_email


 
Posted : 13/07/2021 11:48 pm
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Nice, bar the price.


 
Posted : 13/07/2021 11:57 pm
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That could be my Christmas present sorted


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:07 am
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Shame it looks like an Adidas trainer and not a 5 Ten!


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:18 am
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No stock at Adidas yet. Do Scotby really have them?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:33 am
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Sign of the endtimes!

"Midsole cutouts to allow water to drain from the shoe and quicker drying"

What does that really mean? Are there literal holes in them or is it something internal just to allow the water to get out once it inevitably gets in?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:39 am
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I'm guessing and hoping that's a copy paste mistake from the non-Goretex version.

Though these notches are on both

https://www.adidas.ie/five-ten-trailcross-lt-mountain-bike-shoes/EE8889.html


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:56 am
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Great, another ****ing shoe that fails to resemble the human foot. The human race really is as thick as pig shit.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:57 am
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Eh, it just looks like a trainer with a sock attached? I mean, that's pretty much what it is, but, what's so bad about the shape?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 1:12 am
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Another non-waterproof shoe with a delicate goretex bootie that will rip around the toebox and laugh off any futile attempts to 'fix' it with reproofing spray!

Not many alternatives for this type of shoe, but I've switched to proper leather winter cycling boots and walking boots that just need waxing.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 7:32 am
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I designed the perfect uk boot, but haven’t done anything about it. Like all my other great ideas it will remain in my head till someone else does it, and then I moan a lot to myself.
The one x two seating arrangement of the Maclaren F1 still smarts.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 7:48 am
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Scotby have had them on the website since they were announced a couple of years ago. They do appear to have some very limited stock though.

I can’t find them on the Adidas site though.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 7:48 am
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Great, another **** shoe that fails to resemble the human foot. The human race really is as thick as pig shit.

It looks like a foot shape... what do you mean ?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 7:55 am
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Shame it looks like an Adidas trainer and not a 5 Ten!

This is a good thing actually. There are enough 5 Ten looking shoes around, we don't need any more.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 9:18 am
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For those of us who liked the way old 5-10s fit (I have fat feet and not much else fits), it has been a real shame to see Adidas change the last in the new 5-10s.
I would have to size up so much on the trail cross model to get enough width that it would look like I'm wearing clown shoes.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 9:34 am
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My Trail Cross Mids are a size smaller than my Freerider Pros and EPS high. The lacing and flexibility of material makes them much easier to adjust for wide feet (or thicker/thinner socks).


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 9:39 am
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For those of us who liked the way old 5-10s fit (I have fat feet and not much else fits), it has been a real shame to see Adidas change the last in the new 5-10s.

The Terrex / Trail Cross were branded Adidas originally just with stealth rubber, now they all come under 5:10 banner. I had the problem of original canvas (for want of a better word) 5:10s not fitting well but Trail Cross do. The rest of my family use canvas 5:10s and recent ones I bought are pretty much same fit as they have always been. Pros a little different.

Great, another **** shoe that fails to resemble the human foot.

And what shape do you think human feet are?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:27 am
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You can still get 25% off codes for ordering via the Adidas app and I think if you log in as a student you get 30% off. The discounts stacked last time I tried this.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:40 am
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And what shape do you think human feet are?

Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.

If someone suddenly suggested that we start putting soft baby skulls in square hats and continued to do so until adults all had square heads, it would be called barbaric.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:46 am
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Designed with Bike Packing in mind

Really?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:53 am
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I had the previous two models of the adidas trailcross, got around 2 years out of each pair. I do about 5-6k a year. I got 3 months out of freeriders. I now have the 5 10 version so fingers crossed for the same longevity. First impressions are good. A goretex pair sounds good to me


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:55 am
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^something like that.
I have no doubt that the new Adidas-ified 5-10s will fit some people's feet better. Feet come in different shapes and sizes and I am not keen on trying to squash mine into something that doesn't fit/isn't wide enough in the toe box.
I've tried all the new 5-10/adidas models on and for me the fit is much worse. I have a couple of nearly-new old-stype freerider elements (the other option for somewhat-waterproof) that I will wear until they die. At that point, I'm hoping someone else will have sufficiently sticky rubber that I can switch.

As a climber, I've been wearing 5-10s since the mid 90s and I know a lot of folk who have abandoned the company post-adidas for the same reasons.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:57 am
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Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.

Eh... the widest bit of my feet is the knuckles right where shoes bulge out the taper in.

And all my toes are straight... actually now i look at them, they're pretty attractive feet.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 11:53 am
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Sign of the endtimes!

“Midsole cutouts to allow water to drain from the shoe and quicker drying”

What does that really mean? Are there literal holes in them or is it something internal just to allow the water to get out once it inevitably gets in?

I used run my non-waterproof shoes in the winter sans footbed/liner so that water that gets in will drain straight through the cleat holes with minimal stuff to absorb water. Not sure in this case they mean that though. Since I swapped to shimano's winter boots though thats not a choice.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 11:58 am
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Eh… the widest bit of my feet is the knuckles right where shoes bulge out the taper in.

And all my toes are straight… actually now i look at them, they’re pretty attractive feet.

This is what Onzadog is talking about, the natural shape of the foot is different from what we think it is, because we all grew up wearing shoes that changed the shape from what it should be, to what we now see as normal.

https://www.joe-nimble.com/int/explore/the-science/scientific-article/the-science-of-foot-dysfunction-and-cure-part-1-shoe-shaped-feet


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:03 pm
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...which means that making shoes not that shape is now daft because they don't fit.

Also, while it's a pretty popular argument, there's a very good counterargument that actually feet work fine in "shoe shape" and shoes work better that way. We're a shoe-wearing species by and large, obsessing about what our feet "should" be doing if we didn't wear shoes is a bit pointless. For practically everyone, having a shoe-shaped foot is no problem.

It's mostly a way of selling expensive shoes


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 2:57 pm
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This is what Onzadog is talking about...

I'm skeptical of any science on a website designed to sell me a cure for that "problem", sorry


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 3:25 pm
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I understand its just a photo but...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_footprints_of_Acahualinca

Ignoring the 6th toe on the top foot print those toes (at the time they're under pressure so would be spreading away from one another) don't look any wider than the ball of that foot, the widest part of which is not in contact with the floor generally?


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 3:26 pm
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@russianbob

You can still get 25% off codes for ordering via the Adidas app and I think if you log in as a student you get 30% off. The discounts stacked last time I tried this.

Have you actually tried this recently? The last few times I tried, the codes weren't valid for 5-10 shoes.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 3:35 pm
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Same here. And those boots aren’t currently available on the adidas website or app anyway.


 
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@doomanic - yep, tried today. They don't stack though so 30% off with the student discount is best.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 3:40 pm
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Designed with Bike Packing in mind

Canny be, they've no daft looking bags attached to them.


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 3:50 pm
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That's not a bikepacking sole. At least not for my bikepacking. Still might give them a go for other riding though.


 
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Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.

If someone suddenly suggested that we start putting soft baby skulls in square hats and continued to do so until adults all had square heads, it would be called barbaric.

You still haven't got over ballet school then 😉


 
Posted : 14/07/2021 4:14 pm
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They're properly waterproof:

Arrived today, usual shoe size fits well.

Few sizes still in stock at Tweeks.


 
Posted : 21/07/2021 6:57 pm
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Still not on the adidas site, listed on leisure lakes and je james now.

Can’t be long, model no is S29146


 
Posted : 28/07/2021 8:58 pm
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Picked some up from Scotby. As discussed they are very narrow at the front so I had to size up. This means there is a big gap from the end of my toe to the end of the shoe.

Despite the narrow shoe, the ankle cuff is very loose and won't synch down enough to not be baggy around my ankle. So they appear to be designed for people with long thin clown feet but fat ankles! I am normally a 12 in addidas, but needed a 13.5. The proportions may differ at smaller sizes.

They were reasonably waterproof in the showers today, but I have put my foot in a puddle to see if the drains do let water in! I suspect in pouring rain gaiters may be needed to stop water getting in through the baggy cuff.


 
Posted : 28/07/2021 9:59 pm
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Thanks for the info minus, I’m undecided what size to get

I have the low version in a 9 for summer and fit fine with a regular sock, I have the mid in a 9.5 which are too big unless I have a sealskinz sock on ,

Hopefully appear on adidas soon and I’ll get both sizes


 
Posted : 28/07/2021 10:07 pm
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I got a pair of these last year, not the gtx version, obviously.

They look far too "special". The GF laughed at me. Cg prefer the look of the Freerider.


 
Posted : 28/07/2021 11:19 pm
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Last time It rained enough whilst I was away from home I had to walk a stream that'd suddenly appeared from nowhere. At the other side I had to take shoes and socks off, dry my feet and put my spare waterproof socks on, then my goretex boots, because both shoes and socks were wet inside.

Goretex boots are okay,but goretex socks win every time.


 
Posted : 29/07/2021 12:25 pm
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Finally listed on adidas, 30% codes from vouchercodes are working,

£105 delivered
Very happy .. didn’t expect that


 
Posted : 02/08/2021 8:34 am
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Arrived today, usual shoe size fits well.

I'm retracting that.

Tried them around the house for a longer while and thought I should try half a size up for volume and width.

Originally got my usual size, which was also correct according to the size guide by foot length. Quite a struggle to get my foot through the cuff, and a snug fit once in. They would have done fine, but I did wonder how long the cuff would last that sort of stretching.

The UK8.5 is 4mm longer than which is a tiny bit too much; I think in a lower and/or stiffer shoe it would be too much, certainly for walking use due to heel lift. But the cuff is just enough bigger, and inside they're a bit wider and have more volume. Better fit for me. I'll call them a relaxed fit, but not loose. That's for normal not-thin sports socks, slightly warm socks, or all-season Sealskinz.

Not had any Five Ten shoes before to provide relative comparison.


 
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Mine arrived last week, and I've put them to use straightaway with some days riding in Graubunden.

I have had five ten impacts before. My biggest complaint of them was that they took and retained water like a sponge, even just from riding through puddles.

My most recent shoes have been Shimano GR9, which have a lace flap which does a reasonable job at keeping water out. Sadly they haven't lasted 6 months so I'm trying to get some warranty help from Bikester / Shimano.

And so I have bought these new GoreTex Five Tens. I should have bought next size up, but they're not so bad. They don't look as gaeky on my feet at the do the the photos. General construction is pretty good, with the neoprene ankle well attached to the shoe. The uppers are quite rigid, which means that the laces need some attention to get the correct tension lower down my foot.
I don't think these boots are quite are grippy as my previous shoes. I'm not sure why, but it feels like the rounded edges to the sole don't offer the same support. They're ok for walking in though.
My biggest complaint is there they're not very breathable. My feet are wet even on 'dry' rides, and are white and wizened when I remove my shoes. This is not a problem I have had with GoreTex trail running shoes from Solomon, or with GoreTex hiking shoes from Scarpa. I wouldn't normally say I have hot and sweaty feet, but then neither do they got cold easily in winter.

Perhaps they'll be better for proper wet rides and for cooler days, but so far underwhelming. 2/5.


 
Posted : 26/08/2021 9:56 am
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@the00, what sort of temperatures have you been wearing them in?

I've received a pair but yet to wear them. Had hoped they'd be suitable for year-round use in Scotland but yours aren't the first comments I've read about them being quite a warm shoe. I'm wondering if I'll be better sticking to some TrailCross Mids for year-round use, and adding some decent waterproof socks for wet rides.

They look and feel very good though. More robust feeling that the Mids having less mesh on show.


 
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It was between 2 and 18 degrees C this week. Roughly comparable to a Scottish summer 😜


 
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