Been following the thread and will try and make it as well, pending managment approval.
I'm a dark peak regular so appreciate all the variations being suggested, but I intend to follow Pook, after all it's his pootle we're on.
I'll consider it a magical mystery tour with potentially good company (never having met anyone 😀 )
Original Cavedale ride with a detour down the Beast. Whats wrong with you folk? If your itching to get out go and buy a turbo-crosstrainer 😆
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the decent through the quarry doesn't really add anything, its ok but nowt special, could easily drop that to include the beast later on... if needed
same route as planned earlier, starting from barber booth, or have i missed something?
Its the naughty uns (like pixies) tugging at the corners of the route...stop it I say! 😆
While the cat's away eh?
Having said that, I like the jacobs loop...
The full Kinder Scout Circuit out of the V Graphics book is about 15miles and over 1000metres ascent I beleive
If you wanted to cut a little off without really loosing anything, other than a sloppy (especially so after snow melt (Assuming it melts in time)) slog of a climb, you can ditch the hollins X/mam tor bit out and just climb up the road from barber booth to mam tor. I've done this the last couple of times
As for the wet grassy/peaty 'bridleway' bit across rushop edge, you could always 'misinterpret' the not so clear footpath/bridleway sign just as you make it to the ridge and take the much better ridgeline path across rushop edge
Cavedale is far better than pindale imo, though theres one bit off the main track in pindale, a sort of steep chute than drops into the main track, after the wide open bit thats fun
I like the Kinder circuit. Its the one I always rerun as its doesnt contain mud-post Mam. The snow is the naughty bit.
So we have a change of plan it seems? I'll sort all details on friday in one definitive post. T'internet in the grand hotel on brighton has succumbed to snow by all accounts
Pook - when do you leave Brighton. Im down there on Sat.
I'd be more than happy doing the exact same route as last time. i'll still end up pushing a large chunk of whatever one we do
Nice route change 😆
Pook - I hope you at the hotel bar!
Of course I'm in the bar will, but hora, I'm heading back up north tomorrow. Got to plan this ride properly....
I love it on Kinder and not been up or down Jacob's Ladder since my first mountain bike - a Specialized Hard Rock. Big squishy saddle, rigid everything, a Biopace chainring and even a Shark Fin 😀
One thing to note though, I did [i]try[/i] this circuit last year after snow. Climbing up Coldwell Clough was a non-starter. We got as far as the third(?) gate (after a bridleway heads left off to the reservoir) with a combination of pushing, throwing, swearing and just a touch of riding. Even when we retreated back down it was an effort - fun, but an effort. Me and my mate were fairly fit then too, but it would have taken us a [i]long [/i]time to do the whole circuit.
Might therefore be worth a local volunteering to check conditions. I'm guessing the drifting will be pretty deep up there. Otherwise we'll be building kickers and trying out tailwhips into the drifts. Oh, hang on, that could be fun 😆
Well this weekend is the start of the thaw? someone on STW will have had a pootle up there wont they?
Most likely. Any volunteers??
"Climbing up Coldwell Clough "
I presumed/hoped we'd be going down the muddy/drainage ditched side of coldwell clough and up the tarmac/stony side (ie down Jacobs Ladder also (and rushop edge, roych clough, mount famine .. ie down the good bits, not up them (except for oaken clough)))
To me Coldwell Clough IS the tarmac/stony climb up towards Edale Cross. But a tarmac/stony climb covered in 4 foot show drifts (as it was last year) is a push. If we're pushing/carrying I'll bring my fully rigid 🙂
The initial road climb is probably better consider previous weather conditions.
I'll still be pushing up the road mind you. I didn't buy a Spesh Pitch to actually start riding it uphill, ok? 😉
i.ll be there riding on sunday. I shall report back:)
Just as a quick aside, I have been discussing how to actually get to the meeting point if the snow conditions persist. Snake pass and Holme Moss are shut at the moment so if that does not change it could be a problem. People coming from the north may be better going via Manchester or Sheffield. I have had a look on Google maps and if I go M62/M60/A6 it gets me all the way to Chapel-en-le-frith all on major roads and apparatley only takes 8 minutes longer.
If anyone has more local knowledge nearer the time then the people who are having to travel a fair way would be grateful for a road report!!
I shall be coming from Nottingham. Will be going Chesterfield way, then hathersage etc...
I'd be surprised if the snow is still caused travel issues on roads by then, however stranger thing have happened!
i live in between whaley bridge and chapel-en-le-frith, so i am fairly local, but i wont be able to get a ride in before next saturday after this weekend. i might be able to get out tomorrow or over the weekend, but im not making any promises.
robdob, through woodhead or Stockport/New Mills etc?
"But a tarmac/stony climb covered in 4 foot show drifts (as it was last year) is a push"
Sorry, I just assumed that if it was unridable, it must have been due to a very sloppy surface, completely forgetting about the possibility of a snow drift
"I'll still be pushing up the road mind you"
Tut tut
Thats a middle ring climb that one ..
Apparantely Woodhead pass had just reopened but snake pass hasn't. Checking google maps says that M62/m6/a6 route is only 8 mins longer than holmfirth/glossop etc. I think i try it anyway as I've never been that way.
Careful if you go that way- naughty Pook pointed me that way back in December and some of the climbs back up from dips were sheet ice almost the whole way 😯
it'l have all gone by the 23rd. I can guarantee it....
<scuttles of to find a 2 bar heater and massive extension lead>
Be interesting to see what it is liek up there at teh weekend, think that it will just be rain tbh 🙁
This weekend will be cold, wet and slippy. Next weekend it will be dry, sunny and rideable all the way.
[i](Pook, I have some blow torches that may help)[/i]
Pook, nice work already on Winnats Pass, apparately it's open now. Fast work indeed!
I'll give everyone a tip. Don't look at the satellite pictures of the Edale area on Google as it looks dry and dusty, well heavenly really. It just made me sad. :-/
it'l have all gone by the 23rd. I can guarantee it....
<scuttles of to find a 2 bar heater and massive extension lead>
What we all need is some top of the range Troutlights, I reckon they could be used in daytime to dry the trail as you ride.
It's like this...
right then chaps,
[b]At
10am
January 23rd,
we shall meet at
Barber Booth layby, [url= http://www.multimap.com/s/i9Xr6Utt ]here[/url], to get ready for about a 10.15 set off.
We will be riding the Kinder Loop, which you can find in the VGraphics book*, basically as follows...
Edale, Hollins Cross, Mam Tor, Mam Nick, Rushup Edge, Pennine Bridleway, Mount Famine, The Ashes, Oaken Clough, Jacobs Ladder, Edale.
14 miles, 2400ft of elevation. Should take about 3 hours.
Yes parts will be a bit damp/boggy, yes it may be cold, but I think we're all of the thinking that as much off road as possible is the best way to do things!
As yet, some of the roads in the area are closed, but we're not expecting much snow over the next week so I should think that Edale will be accesible from all ends of the country come the 23rd.
See you all then
Chris aka Pook
* the nice bloke who runs the route planning website is fearing legal action so has closed it down sadly.[/b]
i like that route. i had a look on tracklogs, and it looks like only 3 big climbs, which is nice 🙂
My V Graphics book says its 3100ft (946m) elevation?
ive got 839 on tacklogs.
I don't really care. It's a nice ride.
Whats 700ft between friends? Pook is merely providing a 'mans means of measurement' 😉
i was just saying 😕 a nice ride it is though
Hi everyone. i'd like to join you and i'll be in the Woodbine cafe at 9am if anyone fancys a brew and big lads breakfast before hand. If anyone needs a lift from the Stockport area give me a shout via Email (in profile) cheers. Ady.
😉 more than welcome. I think that takes us up to 29 now... I hope there're enough burgers in the nags head 😀
lets make that 30.
are there enough spaces in the layby?
I'm on the train, where is Barber Booth in relation to the other landmarks streetmap is a bit poo.
you go through barber booth coming from manchester just before you get to edale, just as you come out of the tunnel. coming from sheffield, it is down to the main road from the station and then turn left. hope that helps.
thank you i'll try not to get lost.
eth3er, type barber booth into Google and have a look at the national trust.org page. It's got a copy of the route that i beleive we are taking as well.I'd hyper link it but don't know how!
I really enjoyed the first, snowy one.
The second one clashed with Thetford Winter Series, and now this one does too... Was it something I said/did? 😐
Only kidding, have a good one! 😀
Hi guys,
Well I was up at Edale/Ladybower this weekend. On saturday I went for a run around Mam tor/Edale/Castleton. Well I can say that there is still snow there 😆 took me about 30mins to do a mile due to knee high snow, so I have up and turned around...
Today though i'd do on of the Ladybower loops on the bike, well went along teh bottom dam, and then around the edge on the res. Took me about an hour to get to Hagg Farm Road crossing!! Snow yet again was a right pain in the arse 😆
Anyway some photos of the offending snow:
At the Top of Mam tor, on the road:
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Bridleway around mam tor
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itll be gone in a week, i hope 😕
It will all be gone by next weekend. If its not- Im still riding it. I rode yesterday in the rain/snow in Surrey. Nothing is stopping me.
It's been a lot warmer today and a lot of snow has cleared but there's still loads high up, the top of Jacob's ladder always holds onto the snow and ice much longer than any of the other bridlways as well. The forecast is for the temperature to drop back down to zero on tuesday and start snowing again on thursday and friday.
[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/pics-of-jacobs-ladder-conditions-yesterday ]Some pics of the top of Jacobs yesterday.....[/url]
Never thought i;d say this... but lets hope the snow does go for next weekend eh 🙂
As much as I hope the snow will be gone, I somehow doubt it somewhat, especially the b.way skirting mam tor, it's like it was never there ..
Blimey 😯
Wait and see if snow really does come on Wed/Thurs. If it does it'll just cancel out the thaws good work 🙁
anyone fancy a road ride?
I'm still riding it.
[s]I'm still riding it.[/s]
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I'm still riding it.
That's the voice of an optimist or someone who wants a walk with a heavy and cumbersome walking stick 😆 I might bring a folding bike and put it in my rucsac
Seriously, there's a lot of snow still to shift but my fingers are crossed
That's the voice of a[s]n optimist[/s] man.
🙂
😆 Pook.
I will also still be riding. If the snow is still there and really bad, then be could always do Wharncliffe?
I suspect that if we were to do a Ladybower route the snow would be less...
we can see where we are come the end of the week. Not ideal I know but it may be a late change. Keep an eye on the now epic thread chaps
Worse case. If it really is as bad as the above pics we could always hit a trail centre in Wales etc?
Bit far ain't it?
will I have to ride. Its almost an alcoholic urge. Yesterday I was severely hungover and I dragged myself over Leith Hill etc in Surrey. I was still hungover AFTER the ride 😕
Ditto. Over the peak district. Nothing quite like falling into mel****er to make you realised how much you value your toes.
Wales is a bit far for me though I must admit.
On Sat I was thoroughly soaked to the skin. Mind you I did flip over and roll in the slush 😀
Drove up to the cafe below Derwent res on Sat for a walk. loads of snow, I cannot see that shifting for next Sat!
The lower white peak area is snow free
I bet the Tissington Trail is rideable 😕
Wharncliffe a good idea, only problem I think is that when I last went and it was really wet it was a bit of a quagmire. Needed urgent work doing there which I'm not sure has happened. Anyone ride it recently?
deffo still doing a ride of some sort. Think white peak or wharncliffe. Having said that what about dalby? Although would rather a natural ride.
wharncliffe will be a no go i should think. Too boggy. Little work has been done.
Im still holding a candle for the Kinder Circuit.
Ice- no.
Slushy-snow- yes.
ditto
jacobs it is then 🙂
Even if we walk it- **** it. You dont know for definite until on the day what its going to be like. Plus it could turn out to be a stonker. Plus I was reading at the weekend that the BBC is planning on dropping the Metoffice for its forecasts as they have been found to be wildly inaccurate.