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stonemonkey - Membergonna actually try and make it to this one , better get fit.
Just been reminded its my mates engagement party in Liverpool so guess what... it looks like i wont be there.
Have fun
haha. I actually finished building a bike that works today! So i would have a chance of making it... That was worse than a rooky error.
I fancy having a go at that bit in the quarry again. Its been haunting me ever since.
lyons - I fancy having a go at that bit in the quarry again. Its been haunting me ever since.
I'm convinced there is a line from the top, probably looks easier from the bottom though
Lovely and loose with lots of deep ruts ready for customers of doom...
there is a line, i just bottled it last time. TO be honest, i think the main problem would be how loose the gravel is when coming off the drops. I'd probably be best to spend 5 minutes packing it down a bit first... WHich bike were you one last time? I'm rubbish with names, but ive got a good memory for bikes
And yeah, it looked scarier from the top...
I'll do it...
what are you going to do Will? 😕
I might have a crack.
although...the route I've put in here so far misses out cavedale. Is that a faux pas on my part?
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That bit in the Quarry.
"my am40s"
(partly) White (waffle sole) shoes? in the peak? In january?
They'll never be the same again ..
What drop in what 'quarry' that may or may not be cavedale (despite cavedale not being a quarry), so pindale? which drop?
Yes put it back in Pook. Whats wrong with Cavedale?!
Yeh Pindale - Is it really worth it mind?
To be honest, i dont really rate pindale, or cavedale. And i'll probably be riding m scott scale anyway, so smooth will have to be the riding style of the day...
I rate Cavedale. Think that is great, Pindale seems a little bit of a let down. However more than happy to go with the masses here!
Lyons - Thought you were building a proper full bouncer?
CAvedale is ok, i like the middle section most though... I am building a full sus, but the shock needs to be serviced with new bushings, and i need to get new cranks, and a few other bits... It may be finished by then, it just depends on my finances...
I only really class the middle section as Cavedale. However having said that you can really get some speed up on the grass/rocky bit when it's dry!
I like all of it- well apart from the last grass bit. Put it back in you big hairy tarts!
the grassy/rovky buit, before the gate is the best bit in my opinion...
I may be able to actually drag a couple of people up with me this time...
At this risk of upsetting people, may I suggest a whole new route, as we kind of did this one last month?
Jacob's Ladder route?
Tell me to shut up if you want though 🙄
i like that.
up or down jacobs ladder?
I'd gladly lead a ride on the Kinder circuit- the exact one out of VGraphics book- at my pace as well. However its the snow thats the problem. Add any mileage and your looking at a very very long ride with a large group.
I'm all for sticking to the original route as its doable for everyone, offers some technical riding and is 'long' in the current conditions.
how about something up hollins cross, down into hayfield, then make our way back up the other side of jacobs ladder, then down it?
i do n't know the names of some parts, and being a southerner, i cant really reccomend a whole route, but i do enjoy the riding out that way...
Plus ive never been down jacobs ladder...
good call hora. Think probably best to stick to original. Always next time eh 🙂
Been following the thread and will try and make it as well, pending managment approval.
I'm a dark peak regular so appreciate all the variations being suggested, but I intend to follow Pook, after all it's his pootle we're on.
I'll consider it a magical mystery tour with potentially good company (never having met anyone 😀 )
Original Cavedale ride with a detour down the Beast. Whats wrong with you folk? If your itching to get out go and buy a turbo-crosstrainer 😆
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the decent through the quarry doesn't really add anything, its ok but nowt special, could easily drop that to include the beast later on... if needed
same route as planned earlier, starting from barber booth, or have i missed something?
Its the naughty uns (like pixies) tugging at the corners of the route...stop it I say! 😆
While the cat's away eh?
Having said that, I like the jacobs loop...
The full Kinder Scout Circuit out of the V Graphics book is about 15miles and over 1000metres ascent I beleive
If you wanted to cut a little off without really loosing anything, other than a sloppy (especially so after snow melt (Assuming it melts in time)) slog of a climb, you can ditch the hollins X/mam tor bit out and just climb up the road from barber booth to mam tor. I've done this the last couple of times
As for the wet grassy/peaty 'bridleway' bit across rushop edge, you could always 'misinterpret' the not so clear footpath/bridleway sign just as you make it to the ridge and take the much better ridgeline path across rushop edge
Cavedale is far better than pindale imo, though theres one bit off the main track in pindale, a sort of steep chute than drops into the main track, after the wide open bit thats fun
I like the Kinder circuit. Its the one I always rerun as its doesnt contain mud-post Mam. The snow is the naughty bit.
So we have a change of plan it seems? I'll sort all details on friday in one definitive post. T'internet in the grand hotel on brighton has succumbed to snow by all accounts
Pook - when do you leave Brighton. Im down there on Sat.
I'd be more than happy doing the exact same route as last time. i'll still end up pushing a large chunk of whatever one we do
Nice route change 😆
Pook - I hope you at the hotel bar!
Of course I'm in the bar will, but hora, I'm heading back up north tomorrow. Got to plan this ride properly....
I love it on Kinder and not been up or down Jacob's Ladder since my first mountain bike - a Specialized Hard Rock. Big squishy saddle, rigid everything, a Biopace chainring and even a Shark Fin 😀
One thing to note though, I did [i]try[/i] this circuit last year after snow. Climbing up Coldwell Clough was a non-starter. We got as far as the third(?) gate (after a bridleway heads left off to the reservoir) with a combination of pushing, throwing, swearing and just a touch of riding. Even when we retreated back down it was an effort - fun, but an effort. Me and my mate were fairly fit then too, but it would have taken us a [i]long [/i]time to do the whole circuit.
Might therefore be worth a local volunteering to check conditions. I'm guessing the drifting will be pretty deep up there. Otherwise we'll be building kickers and trying out tailwhips into the drifts. Oh, hang on, that could be fun 😆
Well this weekend is the start of the thaw? someone on STW will have had a pootle up there wont they?
Most likely. Any volunteers??
"Climbing up Coldwell Clough "
I presumed/hoped we'd be going down the muddy/drainage ditched side of coldwell clough and up the tarmac/stony side (ie down Jacobs Ladder also (and rushop edge, roych clough, mount famine .. ie down the good bits, not up them (except for oaken clough)))
To me Coldwell Clough IS the tarmac/stony climb up towards Edale Cross. But a tarmac/stony climb covered in 4 foot show drifts (as it was last year) is a push. If we're pushing/carrying I'll bring my fully rigid 🙂
The initial road climb is probably better consider previous weather conditions.