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Whens that CH ?
Tuesday again. So next week really but YKWIM 🙂
It was 26.5mph again this week but Jonny did it @ 260w normalised which would have no doubt been with a few attacks. It's only 45mins too.
Gameplan is to sit in until 3 to go then cover the front from there until I get dropped 😆
Good luck! https://www.strava.com/activities/1035050112
I'm getting lots of group riding skills in at the moment:
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My 2x 1L bottles turned up yesterday so I'm thinking I may do another century on Saturday, not sure yet though..at least 75/80 miles....
I could only get to Hillingdon for about 7-7:30 so gutted I'll miss it. If I manage to get some kit in your size Weeksy I'll pop down to give it to CH if you're not there.
I'm picking up some kit for myself and some new carbon shoes which they've just ordered in for me 😆
Nath,
If CH was doing Sat i'd have made it as i'm out on the KTM all day and could have passed by Hillingdon. Tues isn't quite so simple though.
Good Luck CH. Hope it goes better than my 3/4 debut this week 😀
[url= https://www.strava.com/activities/1069484904 ]https://www.strava.com/activities/1069484904[/url]
(top lesson learned from this race - remember to have a proper warm up)
It's cool, there's a big if on whether I can get anything anyway.
I have a feeling it's all unused pro kit for the king of the mountain etc. For instance my yodel jersey has F&F on it:
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Thanks JD- we need gory details please 🙂
It was indeed round 1.
Along with what felt like 5,000 other people!
I had one of those days today where my workout was hanging over me like a thunder cloud. I had a fairly heavy day at work moving 2.5tons of food around which entails lifting each 25kg bag at least twice although I have a good system so I don't have to carry them far.
As the evening wore on and it cooled off, I suddenly really wanted to go out on the bike. I thought I would warm up for a bit then either do high cadence spin-ups, form sprints or a few meatier sprints depending on how I felt. Regardless, each 10-15 second burst would be followed by around 5 minutes noodling at minimum power.
With Annie Mac playing some banging tunes on iPlayer, I actually felt great! And yet I could have so easily not gone out at all.
Anyway, really pleased with my set. 10 sprints, all around 1300w. Max was 1413w, Max cadence was 158rpm and my best 15second power was 1064.
Now if only I could get to the 200m line fresh enough to unleash one 😆
Thanks JD- we need gory details please
Desultory warm-up + overccoking the chicane on lap 2 = out the back.
no time to mope though, I've got a 3/4 road race tomorrow 😀
Good man! Have fun and let us know what happens 🙂
@TiRed - think I saw you in Bushy park earlier today, there was loads of twick riders!
New bike time for me, the commuter is knackered. So I'm trying to decide if I want a cheap hack of a frame or one that I can do some weekend miles on and leave the racing bike for racing...
Not today. Resting. Saturday is club ride, so plenty will be out I pulled a calf muscle on Wednesday so have been able ff he bike and bail for tomorrow's 2/3 RR. Will be a long gentle ride instead. It's a rest week anyway, I think as th regimen has taken a slight tumble.
ORRL time again today.
No warm up, no sighting lap in the week, and probably some other things equalled no chance.
Off the back towards the end of the 1st, then plodded round until the peleton lapped me on their last lap.
I think everyone else who got dropped stopped soon after as I only saw one person to ride with briefly before they pulled out...
Good man! Have fun and let us know what happens
[url= https://www.strava.com/activities/1075566293 ]Paramount RR Strava[/url]
So, definitely type 2 fun
Was lucky enough to be near the front of the group in the neutralised zone, and was hoping that a break would go straight away (either so I could try to join in, or more realistically, the race would settle down while I was still fresh. however, no-one got away for in the first lap (also I got called a bellend for moving up on the wrongside of the road, fair comment I guess)
At the start of the 2nd lap I was a bit too far back on the inside of the corner, and got spat. luckily, after another 1/2 lap a decent group formed and we worked together nicely and it was great to get to the bell without being lapped. Then I got hip adductor cramp, which made the last half lap a lesson in suffering, but I got round and I wasn't last on the road 😀
next up - Stourport on Tuesday
Road racing sounds horrific 😆 Well done on getting stuck in both of you!
I have pretty much zero desire to try one at this point 🙂
Sounds brutal!
You can be DQ'd for that as far as I'm aware.
This weekend has been rather expensive! The commuter is shafted so I've had to buy a new frameset and all the bits that are required (£550) - but hoping to sell some bits that aren't transferable and I've put in an insurance claim as the bike was damaged in use...
Then today on my 52 miler a latex tube decided it didn't want to continue the burden of holding some air...
Plan's still going to erm plan: https://www.strava.com/athletes/8544067/training/log
I've lost a bit of weight - actually fluctuating between 67.5kg-69.5kg!
Final build week this week ready for another FTP test on the 23rd 🙂
Road racing sounds horrific Well done on getting stuck in both of you!I have pretty much zero desire to try one at this point
It wasnt that bad. once I'd got over the dissapointment of getting shelled, it was pretty much like the Wednesday Night chaingang
Sounds brutal!You can be DQ'd for that as far as I'm aware.
yes, we were told you can be DQ'd, but at the time it was the only way to move up, and you do have to get caught 🙄
I've lost a bit of weight - actually fluctuating between 67.5kg-69.5kg!
Final build week this week ready for another FTP test on the 23rd
320W and 67.5kg 😯 get racing young man!
Fair enough haha.
332w FTP & 67.5kg 😛
Pull a sicky tomorrow afternoon and come and play at Hillingdon 😉
yes, we were told you can be DQ'd, but at the time it was the only way to move up, and you do have to get caught
This is what I dislike about road racing - half a road with oncoming traffic with 80 riders, it becomes a game of who's willing to take the most risks to move up.
Re: crossing the line - A comm at a race once said something along the lines of if it would be safe to do in a car, then it's ok. Which is probably a fair way to judge it. That said, I still don't like doing it.
Ha @CH!
You know I can't do that - day rate innit I don't get sick pay and need to pay off my new bicycle purchase 😆
At least get on Zwift then, we want to see the fruits of this labour 😆
I will be on Zwift - just not racing 😆
M6 workout tomorrow night - 345w for 40 mins 😯 Need a hilly route ha!
345w for 45 mins Nath 😯
You should do your next 20 min test as part of a club 10 m TT. And probably win the event in the process...
Ha ha, interesting to read someone else's take on the Paramount CRT road race - I was there too!
It's fine to move up on the other side of the road, so long as you can see ahead and aren't crossing a solid white line. If you need to barge your way back in in a hurry then indeed you might get a bit of flak. But if you stay on the wrong side of the road for too long then you're asking for trouble either from oncoming traffic or the comissaire.
@The Southern Yeti - I'm good thanks, prefer doing the FTP indoors.
Target is 345w for 40 mins, doesn't mean I actually can do it. Last time I wasn't feeling it as I'd spent a load of energy [url= https://www.strava.com/activities/1067477939/overview ]traffic light sprinting on my commute home[/url] ha: [url= https://www.strava.com/activities/1067722901/analysis/589/2992 ]40 mins @321w[/url]
I just think with the numbers you're doing you'd get some impressive real world results.
I'm surprised if I see an NP >320 in a Cat 2/3.
Southern Yeti- he's planning to get fit enough to ride off the front of the 3's next I think 😆
The sight of Rupert Graham doing it has inspired him 😉
How do you measure power, Nath? An FTP of 5 would see you right at the pointy-end of most cat2 races at the least.
Ha ha, interesting to read someone else's take on the Paramount CRT road race - I was there too!It's fine to move up on the other side of the road, so long as you can see ahead and aren't crossing a solid white line. If you need to barge your way back in in a hurry then indeed you might get a bit of flak. But if you stay on the wrong side of the road for too long then you're asking for trouble either from oncoming traffic or the comissaire.
How did you get on? I wasn't in the the bunch long enough to form much of an opinion, other than it was quick
I was probably only across the line for a couple of seconds, and moved back into a big space when someone ahead shouted car.
Matts- (on Nath's behalf) previously a hired Stages, now a 4iiii.
It's an interesting point though Nath- you should do your 40mins Threshold workout around Hillingdon and see what speed you can maintain at that power output. If it's 26.5 or Higher, you could potentially already get away from the 3/4 Tuesday night race (with a bit of a dig to make a gap).
One of my team mates got his Cat 2 by riding everyone into the ground at Hillingdon with about 340w FTP and 79kg of bulk to carry around.
Rubbish sprint but at those numbers he just sat on the front and watched people fall away.
One of my clubmates gets around the e12 at HH with way less than that. And another regularly podiums/wins in the masters with less.
EDIT: That's both less in W/Kg terms, and in absolute Watts.
Yeah I know on paper I've "got the power".
But my race craft/confidence is lacking 😆
You should be turning up with your chest puffed out so far that nobody can overtake you 😆
I remember Weeksy saying to me after one of my early races "What do Nath and Blobby have that you don't?" now I can safely say "5w/kg!" 😀
It will be very interesting to see how far the plan takes you power wise Nath- you're absolutely smashing it out of the park every training session so I reckon you'll carry on getting some large gains for a while......
And then buy a silly bike and go testing 😆
Edit- or a pair of trunks and start winning Triathalons 😯
nath, if you want to calibrate you PM properly, head for Hillingdon and give it the beans - Bikecalculator will give you a time for 11 laps - the Westerley Wednesday strava segment. 16.7 km on the drops on clinchers using the default setting at 340 Watts will give you a lap time of about 2:07 minutes, or 23:17 for the segment. The segment is anticlockwise.
See what you can do. On my TT bike 340 Watts would get me to 22:00. Not there yet 🙁
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you could potentially already get away from the 3/4 Tuesday night race
You won't. Negative chase-down racing is the norm for the 3/4 pointsfest.
I struggle to maintain a constant power around Hillingdon, were as I can on the turbo trainer.
There would be no getting away on Tuesday nights, it's too short and too many folk want points 😆
Unless his chain was dirty that day etc etc, in which case his PM could be showing 12w higher than Bikecalculator prediction and still be correct 😉 (Or rather his times would be correspondingly lower for 340w).
As DCRainmaker says, you need three power meters to prove the accuracy of one and the only way to be doing that is to fit them to different parts of the drivetrain where they're sure to read differently anyway 😆
As long as your zero offset numbers aren't showing any extreme anomalies, all that matters is that your relative w/kg measured with the same protocol is improving and your HR is generally getting lower for a given power output.
Oh, and that you're putting it to good use in races opening cans of whoop ass 😆
@jd77.... The pace did seem to go a bit mad on lap 2 but it seemed to back off after that. I started to cramp on the 4th lap (too many beers on Saturday night maybe?) but managed to keep it in check and stay in the bunch. Was thinking about having a dig in the last couple of Km but it was wall to wall riders across the road and then people just started sitting up.
My power meter says it was an easier race than some of my training sessions but I forgot to calibrate it so it could have been way out.
Edit- or a pair of trunks and start winning Triathalons
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
This thread was going so well, and then you have to go and ruin it!
Shocking.
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I can see it happening I tell ya. It starts with a park run, then an obsession with FTP, then he'll buy some tri-bars and a wet suit and that will be it. A good Crit racer lost to the dark side 😆
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Not happening!
Running was a winter thing pre-zwift & as a pace setter for the missus 😆
Turbos don't count. And it not constant power you want to look at its Lap Power. That's what I use. 320 on the climb and backing down to 280-290 when crossing the line. Just done 22 laps on the TT bike to get used to the new bars. Forgot my H R monitor, but 2:09 lap didn't feel so hard. Westerley 10.3 on Wednesday and still aiming for 22:xx