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On long rides/races I get sick of sweet, sugary foods. What savoury things do you eat while riding that don't sit heavy in your stomach but also provide good/reasonable carbs for fuelling?
Banananas or Malt Loaf.
I asked this a while ago and got lots of sarcastic responses. One was fairly useful though, sandwiches. provided you pick something tha isn't going to ooze out, bread rolls are surprising easy to eat on a road ride.
jonb:
I asked this a while ago and got lots of sarcastic responses
It's how you know you're on STW 8)
Individual cheeses
Pepperami
Clif do a salty energy bar
Stop for a pork pie
Marmite flavour cereal bars?...plain wrong as a concept but fulfil both your requirements :lol:...I actually find my brain is telling my tastebuds they are sending it the wrong messages when I eat them!
Do teacakes count as a half way house?
Pies.
Pistachios.
what about savoury flapjacks?
1 egg
25g butter
75g grated cheese plus extra for topping.
70g porridge oats
pinch of salt
Melt butter. Mix rest of stuff in. Press into 8" tin. Grate cheese on top. 30 to 40 mins @ 180C.
The pork pie was invented for fox hunters. The jelly stops the filling rattling about inside the pastry, so it doesn't fall apart when riding and jumping a horse.
This also makes it ideal for mountain bikers!
APF
I go for a toasted bagel with peanut butter, cut into four bits - either with jam and banana in as well (sweeter) or with cucumber (savoury). Just the right size for eating while riding and substantial enough you can space them out.
Just make up some 'proper food' ( i.e subs, rolls, sandwiches, pasta) and take that. Pork pies are tasty but too fat laden to be taken in any qty
Think peanuts are the most obvious answer, was told they had one of the highest calorific values per gram of any food? (distant memories of burning them in school as some science experiment)
I was living off thick oatcakes and cheese on my last camping trip, but you can't slice cheese on the go (safely... 😀 )
peanut butter and jam in a cheese top roll mmmm
tortilla wraps with a filling of choice.
I like refried beans (not messy, easy to handle etc)- preferably home made but from a can will do.
about 200kcals per wrap.
It has to be pork pie, sausage roll or a good pasty doesn't it? Obviously not all at the same time. I know that there's a fair amount of fat content in that lot but it is offset with the banana. A little. 😀
Oh, and mini chedders. Mmmmmm, snack of the gods!
Twiglets...not that I'm addicted to marmite or anything!...don't pork pies give you indigestion...thinking the fat content of those would mean there's no way you'd use em on an enduro...nuts are all protein and too few carbs to be of use as muscle fuel?
cheese sandwiches for me or wraps and salted nuts. votchy I seem to remember you had a test ride on my Orange 5 arranged by race co ? u still got your 5 ?
Bacon, peanut butter and apricot jam sandwiches.
Or bacon and egg sandwiches
Or Tuna mayo sandwiches,with crisps.
PORK PIES!
Silly amounts of Kcals per gram.
As it happens i have just finished a 'eat natural' fruit/nut/cereal bar that was rather satisfying. Bought 2 types (prefer the Yogurt coated blueberry/pistachio) job lot from Makro and they are rather delicious and workout very cheap per bar and hassel free to boot.
pork pies ? who ate all the pies....... 👿 heartburn indigestion..
bananas -i used to eat for energy..but they are also full of sugar !
i try flapjacks or similar...
If you are after something you can eat on the move I would avoid peanuts as there are risks associated with inhaling peanut dust / crumbs.
In the past I have wrapped up small cubes of cheese in cling film and stuck them in a jersey pocket. They are easy to get to, can be popped in the mouth, are easy to chew, taste nice and have lots of fat, therefore lots of calories. They make a nice change to energy bars etc.
If you are stopping to eat then I would second any of the suggestions along the lines of a sarnie / pie.
When we go ride Long Mynd we always go into the deli in Church Stretton for a couple of Cornish Pasties, they put them in silver insualted bags, still warm after a couple of climb / decents.
Savoury Winter Bliss.
who ate all the pies
I did!
Nom Nom Nom 😀
Love pork pies but for ride fuel the fat makes them useless. Good bread with a none fatty filling would do the trick. Anybody that brings out a savory energy bar or gel will have my custom.
I wouldn't discount fat as an energy source on long rides. If the ride is long enough at a reasonable intensity then the body should be able to metabolise fats as an energy source. At least that is what I have been led to believe.
Can't believe no-one's metioned asparagus. The Peruvian stuff's the best, enough of that and you can start leaving your arm warmers at home.
Cashew nuts do the job well for me though.
Edit. However, if this sort of thing bothers you:
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Ham baguette. When I saw a chap leave the feed station just before me to ride up Ventoux with a ham baguette in his jersey pocket, I knew that was the answer.
Otherwise, Tuc biscuits are nice - the saltiness helps.
Nuts seem to work for me, but I've wondered about the fat/energy, too. I've found that simple sugars leave me crashed about 20 minutes afterwards, particularly if I have a lot, like a whole mars bar or something.
I don't really bother with energy food for anything other than all day rides, so what midlifecrisis says makes sense.
chicken and bacon club sandwich... buy it from a supermarket and you get a handy container too... already cut into handy portions for rationing over the ride.. nom nom nom nom nom
Rolls with potato salad and a little cheese FTW!
>Can't believe no-one's metioned asparagus. The Peruvian stuff's the best, enough of that and you can start leaving your arm warmers at home.<
Asparagus? Arm warmers? Are you for real? 😉
Just make sure that your long ride loops through Peaslake once an hour and have a cheese straw.
i use redskin peanuts and dried apricots and/or figs, you can always add some rolled oats too. cheap if you buy in bulk, nutritious, good quality fat, fruit sugar, carbs and it doesn't matter if they get squashed.
A mate of mine in the US used to swear by these for a long road ride; he said they were the right balance or carbs/salts, not sure you can get them in the UK though? maybe Mini cheddars would be a good substitute?
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Heather, Silly reference to these discussed yesterday:
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Dates.
OK so it's kind of sweet but a pack of dried stoned dates is compact and easy to carry, doesn't fall apart if it gets wet and is very high in energy.
Otherwise, jam or peanut butter sandwiches.
My girlfriend once went completely crazy on a walk after a large helping of dried dates. Properly mental till all the sugar wore off.
careful now.
My girlfriend once went completely crazy on a walk after a large helping of dried dates. Properly mental till all the sugar wore off.
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[i]My girlfriend once went completely crazy on a walk after a large helping of dried dates. Properly mental till all the sugar wore off.[/i]
Pics?
Hah! She's a bit loopy most of the time anyway (being a girl 😉 )but this was like she was on drugs! Really hyper, uncontrollable giggles, singing at the top of her voice... Now you come to mention it, she was "a bit more affectionate" too. Shame there were about 10 of us on the walk.
Fig rolls for the perfect mix of sweet and savoury in one food.
Salted cashews for replacing salt on a sweaty day.
Malt loaf for ballast if it's a windy day on the mountains and you're worried about getting blown away.
[i]bananas -i used to eat for energy..but they are also full of sugar !
i try flapjacks or similar... [/i]
Yes good idea as flapjacks contain no sugars or fat.
You can use fat as an energy source, but your body has loads of that anyway - even if you are skinny - and generally it doesn't like metabolising it (bonking is when you run out of readily-available glycogen and have to run off bodyfat alone). So whilst pork pies, cheese etc. make a nice change from sugary stuff, they aren't going to be much use in sustaining your energy output.
sorry scholarsgate but those savoury flapjacks sound minging.
The sugary stuff keeps you going, I thought the savoury stuff is just occasional "proper" food on a long ride/event to stop your stomach throwing a major wobbler. ie go for what you like rather than whats good for you. I'd vote for pies (gourmet stuff from tebay services) scotch eggs, pasties. sarnies are a bit too easily damaged in your 'bak, nuts too fiddly.
Note the "occasional" bit and proper energy food inbetween.
cold kebab ? but keeping it healthy with a wholemeal pitta and extra salad
😉
Another vote for malt loaf...i ate a whole one in a matter of minutes on a very long road ride and it got me round the rest of the way 🙂
Bananas or jam sarnies are good too.