I know it gets a glowing write up, but £2700 for the frame! Is it just me,or are manufacturers getting a bit too used to pulling our pants down? Is anyone actually thinking of forking out for one?
Other brands and models are available...
I'm sure we'll see some under the bellies of audi-driving stw readers at a pool-table-smooth trail centre soon 😆
It's just santa cruz's carbon which is taking the pee. I think it's more to do with Jungle than SC as they're far more closely priced to the Pivot 5.7c and Ibis mojo HD in the US.
I'm sure we'll see some under the bellies of audi-driving stw readers at a pool-table-smooth trail centre soon
I saw 2 of these on fives at FOD yesterday 😀 They managed a lap of the verderers.
If people are [s]discerning and technically demanding[/s] [b]stupid[/b] enough to keep paying it, they'll keep charging it.
As has already been noted: Propped conspicuously against the cafe entrance at a trail centre near you soon!
I'd love one.
But not at that price. 😐
wrecker - MemberIt's just santa cruz's carbon which is taking the pee. I think it's more to do with Jungle than SC as they're far more closely priced to the Pivot 5.7c and Ibis mojo HD in the US.
Probably right - Mojo HD is under 2K, Intense Carbine is £2200 - but Santa Cruz frames are still always in short supply - Jungle will sell all they can import, no reason for them to reduce prices.
US price: £1500.
Im glad my Dad lives over there.
As it is an evolution of an existing platform I fail to see how they can justify the price other than to make it unattainable for most and thus an aspirational 'halo' model.
Would love one though!
On the subject of SC 29ers I nipped in to an SC dealer to have look at the new SL 29er (very nice too) the only problem was that the young fella wasnt interested in talking about the SL (at the upper end of my budget) and possibly making a sale, all he tried to do was sell me a Tallboy by telling me how good that was. For another £800...
I left feeling that a £1000 frame was a somehow not worthy of my consideration.
£1500 for an LTC Ska-49? Surely that's the alloy version?
$2800 sambob. Same as the TRc.
Sambob, as wrecker said $2800 dollars which is £1672 (today) then add a bit of haggling and your down to £1500. Tried and tested.
i'd be tempted if I won the lottery...on paper I can't see a reason for ever needing another bike (until the next big thing of course)
I am considering the alu version though. I wanted a Bandit 29 but they have all gone in my size.
Wow. Sounded too good to be true. If I had the money, I'd combine it with a US riding holiday. That's only 200 more than a Bandit 29. Grrr...
The Tallboy rocks, this version rocks more IMO.
Drool'idge.
Sambob, as wrecker said $2800 dollars which is £1672 (today) then add a bit of haggling and your down to £1500. Tried and tested.
Then add the 30% so tax the yanks pay is it not...?
Is anyone actually thinking of forking out for one?
Deposit down 😯
People who earn the same as me buy cars which depreciate that much in a year - making the LTc look like super value in comparison.
Forget haggling - they can't make them quick enough.
transition bandit is better value and mines ****in ace
Tried the lt and bandit at the weekend, bth great but I preferred the lt
This is not the BBC 😉 😆Other brands and models are available
Where did you try the LT?
Bothy bikes had one at the Laggan demo day stu - Ally one ratehr than carbon.
mmmm.
Might have to try one out.
Tried the Bandit and liked it but no availability for a fair while. 😐
Is the LTc the longer travel version? I got mine before it was available but if it has kept the ride quality of te original tallboy then it is a winner. I demo'd and bought mine from Bothy and love it. Yes cheaper and probably better value bikes are out there but once I had tested the tallboy, with a wee dividend in my pocket, there was no way I wasn't getting one.
I'm going to have to test ride one to compare it to my standard 26 LTc. What people think is economically worth while is subjective, I use mine alot and get a lot of enjoyment from it. Just the main foscus for most of my money 🙂
Mine arrives in a week or two. Rode the alloy one and have been on a carbon Tallboy for about 3 yrs. fits the same really but rides better. I always said the Tallboy with more travel would be a great bike and my ride showed that to be the case. I don't pay rrp thankfully. Just sold my Tallboy for a lot as well on an auction.
Mine arrives in a week or two. Rode the alloy one and have been on a carbon Tallboy for about 3 yrs. fits the same really but rides better. I always said the Tallboy with more travel would be a great bike and my ride showed that to be the case. I don't pay rrp thankfully. Just sold my Tallboy for a lot as well on an auction.
[i]I know it gets a glowing write up, but £2700 for the frame! Is it just me,or are manufacturers getting a bit too used to pulling our pants down? Is anyone actually thinking of forking out for one? [/i]
Who cares what somebody else will pay for something, it's their money.
And does seems good value compared to the 'servicing my posh watch' thread..., £450! 😯
Just booked a test ride on the alloy on for the whole of next bank holiday weekend.
Let's see what it rides like before i decide if it's expensive or not. 🙂
If you like it and can afford it.. buy it.. is my motto 😉
I had a Tallboy 29er for two days back in March, most excellent bike IMO. I've been looking for something like it for a little while and since handing it back thought about the cost, so looked at Rumblefish and Camber.. both excellent bikes, but something about that Tallboy keeps bringing me back to it.
Is it £2700 though???
The review in WMB this month says it's £2699 for the frame, fork and shock? Seeing as the Fox F34 forks are best part of a grand it's still expensive but not ridiculous.
But the review could be wrong i guess?
Which figure is correct Bedmaker?
£2700 is list price for frame and shock only.
[url] http://www.santacruzbikes.co.uk/tallboy_lt_carbon [/url]
Ouch!
Overpriced MTB kit usually has to be reduced to sell towards the end of the season. I've never seen the top end Santa Cruz frames reduced.
As they said above, you make your choice, pay the money and ride.
£2699 frame, shock and fork is maybe the aloominum one?
I bought a Tallboy carbon in Sids Bikes NYC, the complete bike didn't cost much more tham the frame and shock in the UK. It came with 120mm fox forks, XT bits and some really nice mavic/dt swiss wheels.
It was very easy to bring back. Even with the sales tax in the USA it was a big saving and the bikes are available.
Though not an LTc, my TRc frame (+shock) retails for around the same price in the UK but I got mine in Hong Kong for 1,530 GBP, though that does include a 10% discount.
It will be interesting to see how the price of the Tallboy LTc compares with direct competion such as the Ibis Ripley 29er and Yeti SB-95 carbon when they're released shortly. I'd expect them to be a similar price.
Look at my thread!
[b]2 years ago[/b] this was: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/carbon-full-sus-frames-silly-prices
I would like to have think i made a difference, by bringing this out into the open. But I didn't.
I know these new SC are expensive.. but there are a suprising amount of them out there, and other bikes of simular price.
At Recent Steel City downhill race in Sheffield, I counted six carbon santa cruz bikes, Nomads, TRc, Tallboys (Ok one was Peatys).
On top of that there were so many other Ibis etc etc...
I have just been pricing up what it costs to build a complete bike (Tallboy LT, XT spec) as frames only by all accounts are going to be a while off yet. Pricing up all components at RRP I am still coming in under what is being priced for the bike...and my pricing allows for spokes too which aren't listed. Is this normal? I would have thought you'd get some sort of discount but it appears not. What am I missing?
What am I missing?
Their bonuses!
👿
Just been and picked this up from my LBS.
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Got it until tuesday to try out.
If I like it i'll be having a carbon one. 8)
Nice Stu!
Couple of questions if you dont mind...
what LBS was it that has them on demo? And what size is that one?
Any SC dealer can get the use of this one and it's a large.
Full write up please stu- does it hang from trees ok?
Cheers for the info Stu.
pop.
I need to tweak the fork and shock to get a betterer treehanging feel from it.
First impressions are good* though.
*It didn't fall off of the tree.
just how much faster is the rebound / compression on those forks with the kashima coating
About £100!!!
Stu, give us a review 😉
just how much faster is the rebound / compression on those forks with the [s]kashima[/s] Ratners coating
13.33%.
It's OK though as i've slowed them both down again* with the adjusters as they were too fast.
*By 13.33%
:-).I'm waiting for kashima + .
I hear its 27.5% faster
But they'll have to make the adjusters go to 11 then to get it feeling right again.
😆
I tried a Tallboy LT back to back with an SB95. My Yeti arrives shortly. Been riding SC for years but I was blown away by the SB95. IMHO the suspension works better and the mid stroke is stiffer which lets it be a whole lot more fun than the LT, for me the LT was point and shoot, kind of numbed the trail... if that makes sense
How'd you get on with the LT Stu?
TRC and LTC are much better priced here in Oz, The pound is CRAP!!! hence your problem
Rubbish! I'm heading back home soon and looked at this option. As a percentage of my monthly income it's actually cheaper for me to buy it in the UK than in Oz. I won't be taking this option as warranty issues as well as the extra cost and hassle of the freight make it not worthwhile. I'm a big fan of supporting the LBS and I know if I buy a bike from them that I'll get looked after.
Rubbish! I'm heading back home soon and looked at this option
Tallboy C List price is currently £350-400 cheaper in Oz. Cant comment on % of income but it's cheaper.
Was offered better than list on LTc and TRc too.
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Seems I must have liked the alloy test bike. 😉
I just ordered the carbon version.
Better still the LBS already had a carbon one in my size on order so it should be here in around two weeks. 
How did it cOmpare to the bandit stu?
They were kind of similar but it climbed a little better, will be lighter in carbon, is available and it's coming at a [b]very[/b] good price.
I have had various Santa Cruz but in recent years the frame prices have become just crazy in the UK, and it is not the pound/dollar exchange rate - even considering that, prices are very very high and some like Pivot, Yeti, and Ibis are closer to their US prices here. Not the same, but closer.
I was going to ignore Santa Cruz on this basis but ended up buying a Blur XC Carbon recently when stif threw in a £750 fork for the £2500 frame price (the deal is now off but the frame is £1850). I seem to have benefitted from the fact no-one seems remotely interested in anything without epic travel levels...
I gotta admit I love my bandit always reaching for it at the moment 🙂
I liked the Bandit too. They're both [b]very[/b] nice bikes. The TB just suits me slightly better.
trying to be patient here.....
Ssstu- is your LBS in Amblecote?
Should hopefully be picking up my TB LTC this week. Can't wait. Just got to sell my TBc now!! Anyone interested in a large, orange TBc frame with kashima shock and 120mm kashima forks?
Paul, still 1/2 interested! but the fact that the warranty is only to the original owner is putting me off! Oh and that I'd prefer blue!
Next question what size is everybody riding? At 6'1" I've almost told myself I'd need an XL instead of L. With preference for a shorter stem.
I gotta admit I love my bandit always reaching for it at the moment
I was hoping you'd be selling to me by now Ringo 😉
Double post
I tried a medium last Saturday. I need a large and rode it for 20 seconds on tarmac. I thought it was shit and am very happy that it was too. Phew!
CS1, I'm about 6'1/2" and the large is ideal. I run it with a 70mm stem and that gives a nice stretch without being too long. Just put some 2.4" ardents on it and it rides great, if a little heavier than with the previous crossmarks!