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+1 JY
All hail the great car. We must worship the car. The car always has right of way. (Even when on the wrong side of the road) stupid 4x4 drivers can bully everyone else. Stupid drivers must never be told they're wrong.
All hail the great car.
FFS look at her reaction during the chat
Indeed. The way she starts bleating about being a woman, alone.
I hate that sort of shit...
It was IRELAND, that sort of thing happens there quite often, also ther was a vehicle behing the cyclist so would she have moved for them
If I'd ridden around the corner and come across the same situation I'd have certainly been a bit pished off at where her car was. Sure the cyclist over reacted a bit... on a good day I'd have politely said she was in the wrong place and indicated she needed to be over on her side of the road, then cycled around and left her alone. On a bad day I'd have wheelied over her bonnet, crapped through her sunroof and left her to seeth. 😉
not listened to the audio so dunno if he was overly sweary, if confronted by the same I can't see many people not at the very least muttering a couple of swearies under their breath, most likely a "WTF are you doing" said loudly. Driver had plenty of time to see the cyclist and move over to her left as she should have done.
If it was me in a good mood I'd have approached slowly make sure traffic behind was slow/stopped enough to let me go down the right of her (while calling her an idiot) and rejoin the left side of the road. In a bad mood I'd have just silently stood my ground* and waited (and waited) for her to move.
As for "Helmet cam warrior looking for trouble" comments....yawn, change the record.
*making sure I could easily get out of the way if she turned mental.
Amusing how there was a thread the other week about someone who had a similar situation but in cars, and most peoples response was that he over reacted getting out and getting angry. This situation is no different, just a cyclist and car, she wasn't going to run him over she was stopped. A polite word might have been in order, but ranting and raving is ridiculous.
As for "Helmet cam warrior looking for trouble" comments....yawn, change the record
I dont think theres an increase in the number of helmet cam warriors, just an increase in people using cams and showing the world what has frankly been happening for aons on our roads to cyclists. Now there is more cyclists, therefore more awareness in the public domain, vive la revolution.
she wasn't going to run him over she was stopped.
She was on the wrong side of the road - that is the critical point she was 100 % in the wrong and still had space to move out the way. i think we all recognise it was not attempted murder but it was driving of the lowest standard
A polite word might have been in order
Yes she looked and acted like the reasonable type
, but ranting and raving is ridiculous.
she was the ranter clearly though he was less thna happy and a bit sweary
You just have to be trolling I have nothing further to say as I am not feeding you and your views are BS and utter;ly at odds with the evidence presented.
DONK its worth listening to
Cyclist bit sweary in road at start not ranting but not polite
Cycles past muttering
She starts conversation by saying to him he was in middle of road - yes really she started it with that
He gets sweary back
She says lone women and then starts screaming [ literally] about assault
She acts basically a bit mental
Car driver behind her says well done son to him as he passes
I'm a cyclist/ have been for 38 years.
That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.
She was in the right.
Indeed it is standard procedure to drive down the road on the wrong side of the road to get past an obstruction on your side and if you meet anything its is clearly there fault and you are in the right
Good point well made :roll@:
The parked car on her side ergo she gives way. She was in the wrong.
I believe the actual rule is that first to the obstruction has right of way. Obviously, if it's a close-run thing then the correct thing to do is give way to the vehicle NOT having to carry out the extra manoeuvre.
She wasn't signalling either.
the cyclist had right of way, he had been travelling down the road long enough to be seen by the driver and its his side of the road, he has right of way there, she must defer. she was actually pulling out way before the cars and way before she needed trying to claim right of way as car drivers often do. Doesnt make it right. so I completely disagree with ^. I'd also say she wasnt going to get far as clearly the road ahead is already pretty full of cars waiting to get out the junction. looking at where her car was she clearly doesnt know the width of her car.
[quote=iolo ]That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.
She was [s]in[/s] on the right.
FTFY - because that's the only way your comment makes sense. Cyclist was already passing parked cars when he met her - she hadn't yet got to them. What was he supposed to do? Oh, and it was actually her talking like a bell end.
bike finishes cornering and is visible to driver at 5 seconds, at 10seconds (he has been visible to her for a full 5 seconds) he has passed the parked car that she is only just approaching and causes him to stop. It seems to be double yellows the rest of the street so she was only pulling right to pass the parked merc - which again the cyclist [i]has already passed[/i].That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
bollocks she was.She was in the right.
All those suggesting car driver is right, cyclist is wrong, can you try imagining that cyclist is actually driving a car and then deciding who is right? Because I can only assume that you're determining right of way on the basis that cyclist has less right to be on the road.
I've reported iolo's post, because the only purpose of that comment (Im assuming he's not that delusional) is trolling.
I think everyone was in agreement that the driver was in the wrong but the cyclist overreacted slightly and was a bit of a nobber, until that is the usual suspects came along, twisted what they had read, then started arguing with people and calling them trolls for expressing a viewpoint.
I believe the actual rule is that first to the obstruction has right of way
I thought that if the obstruction is on your side of the road you give way.
[quote=tpbiker ]I think everyone was in agreement that the driver was in the wrong
I think you need to re-read the thread
until that is the usual suspects came along, twisted what they had read, then started arguing with people and calling them trolls for expressing a viewpoint.
Usual suspects being those talking sense, and the others being stupid or trolls?
That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
[s]He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.[/s] IRRELEVANT BIT
She was in the right.
For the purpose of clarity this is what I was referring to as trolling. I fail to see why the 4x4 was on the wrong side of the road 3 -4 cars car lengths BEFORE the obstruction especially as there was oncoming traffic.
Some people have too much time on their hands and are way too stressed for their own good. She made a move to go down the bit of road left after the parked car took up their share without taking into account the cyclist. Not ideal but at least she stopped before coming completely alongside the parked car.
I'm afraid the most that would have garnered from me would have been the international sign for "what gives?" (wrinkled nose and quizzical look with maybe an upturned palm if feeling particularly continental and flamboyant) and pedalled past on the empty part of the road to her right thinking no more about it.
But then again I don't go around with a camera on my head and publish video evidence on the internet so maybe I don't have the 'issues' that bloke clearly does. It could however be argued that getting your knickers in a twist (one way or the other) about this, 3rd hand, on an internet forum is also a sign of sad sackness.
... so you've gone on to a forum to complain about sad sacks complaining about a cyclist that shouldn't be complaining? Doesn't that elevate you into a new category of 4th hand complaining nonsense?
happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!
I would have rode past her and honestly not given a toss and never thought of it again.
... so you've gone on to a forum to complain about sad sacks complaining about a cyclist that shouldn't be complaining? Doesn't that elevate you into a new category of 4th hand complaining nonsense?
I am very much putting myself in the sad sack camp (sorry if this did not come across in original post) along with everyone else motivated enough to bother posting. We all need to get out more!
singlespeed shep + 1
Not trolling.
She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.
When the cyclist turned into the junction she was anticipating overtaking the parked cars so was in the right hand lane.
All the cars behind her were also in the same lane.
Were they all in the wrong too?
+1 for what JY and Donk have written.
I haven't listened with audio but she wasn't driving with due care and attention and should not have pulled over having seen someone approaching (which she did very early and without indication). He was visible for at least 6 seconds.
I think the better approach (if you wanted to be a cock about it) would have been sit on your bike, point to her car and the opposite side of the road, fold your arms and wait for her to move. Without saying a word.
Most would probably just shake there head, call her a silly cow or something like that and carry on about their business.
Pair of prize bell ends who could have both dealt with it better. If you want confrontation you can find it anywhere. Can't see why people get worked up by such trivia.
happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!
I'd prefer to do the latter, not let it bother me and if that was the worst I had to put up with when out on two wheels I probably would. Trouble is the former is spot on, this entitlement/bullying seems, to me, the tip of the iceberg and indicative (causative?) of the much worse stuff that happens. So getting riled about it seems, if not fair then certainly not unreasonable.I would have rode past her and honestly not given a toss and never thought of it again.
Iolo. When the cyclist turned the corner she was on the left hand side of the road. You might want to consider a trip to specsavers!
no seeing as the cyclist had room to ride passed all the other drivers what with the majority of them being on their side of the road (merc van was sticking out a bit)All the cars behind her were also in the same lane.
Were they all in the wrong too?
This is however interesting:-
happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!
She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.
Two people who viewed he same bit of film..... I think it says quite lot about people's perceptions - how much of what we see is what we want to see. Or maybe some people are too passive and forgiving whilst others live in a paranoid 'the world is out to get me' mindset.
Every single piece of go-pro helmet cam, street warrior footage should just carry this mandatory legal disclaimer:
Everyone involved with the making of this film, both in front of, and behind, the camera is an utter and complete ****!!!
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There both at fault for living in the big dirty city where everyone is on edge.
Grrrr
others live in more paranoid 'the world is out to get me' mindset.
You're referring to me in that statement, aren't you...
Not trolling.
Ok you are just utterly wrong then
[s]She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.[/s] She was driving entirely on the wrong side of the road towards oncominng traffic on the incorrect side of the road
FTFY
As for they were all there watch the video -= they have pulled out [ cannot tell when they arrive tbh but they may just be pulling to a stop behind her] but no one else is hugging the opposite side kerb whilst driving towards another road user.
Its ridiculous to claim her driving is anywhere close to the expected standard. Its as shit as your attempt to defend it
iolo - Member
singlespeed shep + 1Not trolling.
She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.
When the cyclist turned into the junction she was anticipating overtaking the parked cars so was in the right hand lane.
All the cars behind her were also in the same lane.
Were they all in the wrong too?
Yes - why move out to pass the parked car before you need to, when there's oncoming traffic?
Here's a good road rage incident. It's a cylist v cyclist though, we;re not all out to get at car drivers. No fisticuffs unfortunately, although he does use the helmet cam warriors secret weapon - the threat of a thirty pound fine.
[quote=iolo ]She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car
Just a bit early? Ah well that's OK then. I was just a bit early going through the red traffic light (before it changed to green) and a bit early overtaking the tractor (before the car coming the other way had gone past). Presumably that's all totally excusable and I'm in the right?
I'm not sure whether those calling the cyclist names have realised that he does all his swearing whilst stopped in the road where the driver can't hear him, whilst doing exactly the sort of gesturing some seem to suggest he should. When [b]she[/b] starts the conversation by opening her door as he goes past (presumably her window doesn't work - as a woman on her own she's not trying to confront him is she?) he's actually quite polite and restrained.
I ask again - for those who think the cyclist is wrong, what should he have done?
This explains why so many cyclists die on our roads.
Even fellow cyclists think they Should be treated like second class people and ride in the gutter.
I ask again - for those who think the cyclist is wrong, what should he have done?
Not stopped, just kept on pedalling (passing on the bit of road to the right) whilst giving a gaelic shrug if he felt so inclined and then erased the incident from his mind (and camera) and not bothered the internet gods with a bit more dross to hold onto in cyberspace.
She got it wrong, but really....
No idea why the cyclist is getting a hard time here.
he is COMPLETELY in the right. And his reaction? what reaction?
He is remonstrating against this 4x4 driver which has made no attempt TO STAY ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF THE ROAD, and on top of that stops on the extreme right not allowing even a centimetre of road to pass.
And if that wasnt enough she accuses him of being in the middle of the road and accuses him of threatening her??? mind boggling
+1 endurogangster
+1 aracer
I had a similar incident in my car the other day.
turned into a narrow road (parked cars both sides, only wide enough for a single car, two way street) to find a taxi blocking the road, sitting with its hazard lights on. I drove up to the taxi and stopped about a car length from him.
After about a minute of me waiting patiently and the driver not even acknowledging my existence his passenger gets in and he starts to move towards me. Because he had blocked the road I've nowhere to go except about 100 metres backwards.
He has to go back about two car lengths.
He starts gesticulating telling me to move back
I just sit there (I'm a good 25 minutes early for work so time is on my
side)
He start gesticulating with a bit more vigour.
I start eating a banana (I had my lunch on the passenger seat, although I really wish I'd had a newspaper!)
Taxi driver moves back the 10 metres or so he needs to. He mouths something to me that rhymes with "banker" but to be honest I'm too busy laughing to care too much
Cyclist was 100% in the right some people are just inconsiderate fools