[Closed] R.I.P. W.T.F?

Rest in Peace doesn't have to be about religion. It's just respectful

Plus it's nice to think of a person being in a nice place.

Also it's not about you missing the person it's about them being ok. Isn't it?

[quote=MoseyMTB ]Rest in Peace doesn't have to be about religion. It's just respectful
Plus it's nice to think of a person being in a nice place.What place can they possibly be in? They are either in the ground or ashes somewhere
[quote=MoseyMTB ]Also it's not about you missing the person it's about them being ok. Isn't it?They're not OK. They are dead.

What a funny thing to get worked up about

Well if you want to think of the people you love rotting in the ground that's fine. I know that's what's actually happening but I like the idea that they can rest in peace.

It's all opinion so doesn't really matter. Obviously it winds you up though.

If you look at it in very black and white terms then yes rest in peace is an odd saying for anybody that isn't religious but it's generally used as social shorthand in the way that MoseyMTB described above. I guess it has particularly poignancy for anyone that's died after a troubled life or particularly painful illness as their suffering has come to an end.

I have no belief in religion or god(s) of any sort but when we were going through difficult times and people told us they were praying for us I just took it as a kindness that in their own way they were thinking of us and wishing the best for us. Sometimes it's more important to understand the undercurrent of what is being said rather than the literal meaning of the words.

I thought it meant Rotting in Peat.

Plus it's nice to think of a person being in a nice place

it is nice, but if you are a non believer seems a bit childish

Sorry i don't see how thinking of someone i love being in a better place than rotting in the ground is childish?

It's more about respect for them as my family than my own feelings.

Does that rule then apply for Christmas etc? I don't believe in the easter bunny but i still give my nephew an easter egg. Is that childish?

rOcKeTdOg - Member

it is nice, but if you are a non believer seems a bit childish

I'm a non believer, but I'm perfectly happy to let people use a harmless turn of phrase as they see fit. To do otherwise is a bit Dawkins.

[quote=MoseyMTB ]I don't believe in the easter bunny but i still give my nephew an easter egg. Is that childish?
How old is your nephew?

3, not really the point though is it.

I really don't understand how the term 'rest in peace' is being put forward as a bad thing.

Do we have to cover people saying 'oh my god' or 'OMG' then?

[quote=MoseyMTB ]3, not really the point though is it.
Are you pretending to believe in the Easter Bunny for him, or for you? Can't you see the difference?

I'm not religious but I still say Bless You if somebody sneezes. RIP seems to be ore a term of affection for the person than anything else.

Much bigger things in the world to worry about though. 🙄

Are you pretending to believe in the Easter Bunny for him, or for you? Can't you see the difference?

For him, exactly like how i say RIP out of respect for the person not me. Don't you see?

Euro trolling, again.

scotroutes, you haven't actually explained why you have an issue with RIP?

Pook - Member

What a funny thing to get worked up about

Don't think anyone is getting worked up, although it's hard to tell from here. I've always thought it was a strange thing to say but seeing it written down makes it even stranger. Yes it's harmless and generally said with good intentions but i still find it an odd phrase considering.

How old is your nephew?

Dull. Must go and do something productive. Garage needs tidying.

Euro trolling, again.

[s]If you want, but my opinion can be different from yours without trolling you know. And it looks like others think in a similar way. Trolls everywhere...[/s] 🙄

Sorry, you're right, lets talk about wheels again

I wish this thread would RIP*.

*The P stands for Poo! WTF...LOLz!

[quote=MoseyMTB ]scotroutes, you haven't actually explained why you have an issue with RIP?
I don't have an issue with RIP. As has been said above, phrases like RIP, OMG and "Bless you" have simply become part of the language. I do, however, think it's a bit strange to not have a believe in an afterlife of some sort and then to try to pretend that a loved one is somehow surviving there after death.

Rip probably makes more sense than wtf

I think you have mistaken what i meant, i don't believe they are surviving at all. That is not my point.

My belief is when your dead you are dead. I say RIP purely out of respect not religion or belief.

I do, however, think it's a bit strange to not have a believe in an afterlife of some sort and then to try to pretend that a loved one is somehow surviving there after death.

It's not a phrase I would ever use despite the ease with which it conveys a kindness during an often sensitive time. But equally i wouldn't pull someone up on using the phrase either.

If they believe it to be true then they are offering you a genuine kindness regardless of your beliefs and if they don't have that faith then maybe they just have trouble articulating their feelings and are falling back on social convention in order to express their sympathy. Neither of which are a bad thing.

what would you prefer ah well they will be a rotting putrefied corpse by now as the maggots slowly eat them? Still at least they had a good life
Its factually accurate if not a tad insensitive
Suffer in eternal torment is also just as meaningless as they are just dead.
If you cannot see why this is not done then I cannot help you
FWIW the phrase does not strike me as particularly religious as that would be rest in gods love for ever in heaven where you have been saved etc.
I think you may need to learn some tact and diplomacy. Till you acquire this why not put your bluntness/insensitivity to work on STW 😉

I think that regardless of religious or spiritual belief the idea that someone's mortal remains are laying undisturbed is comforting. I'd rather be resting in peace than be buggered about with after my funeral!

Well i think they are great,

http://www.ninerbikes.com/rip9
http://www.vandesselsports.com/?page_id=17

No? Oh sorry I thought you meant the bikes, what with this post being in the BIKE FORUM!

Sorry i don't see how thinking of someone i love being in a better place than rotting in the ground is childish?

Sorry, you misunderstood, I respect your right to say or believe what you want, I don't believe in religion or life after death so I do see it as misguided and childish, please accept my apologies & my condolencies if someone you love has died

Rocketdog, this is a topic where posts are so easy to be misinterpreted. No need to apologise at all.

Like you I'm not religious, like you I whatever makes someone feel better is fine by me.

I only say rest in peace as I guess I know nothing else. It's become the standard go to in a death situation.

Amen Brother enuff said

MoseyMTB » Rest in Peace doesn't have to be about religion. It's just respectful

It is respectful, but I would also add that in my opinion it indicates a wish to respect the fact this person is dead and cannot defend themselves or make amends for anything they may be accused of. RIP in this context, to me, means don't go raking over the past or throwing accusations at folk who can't possibly disprove or defend themselves.

That said, Not everyone deserves to RIP..!

Even if you don't believe in god, surely when you are dead you are at peace anyway.

Nothing to worry about anymore.

I'm not sure if this has been mooted as I've not read all the posts, but if you have watched someone live with a long and increasingly painful terminal illness then the notion of them finding peace in death is poignant.

I don't think R.I.P. is mentioned in the Bible, but it is a long while since I even opened a copy. I don't think there is anything in the scriptures about cleanliness being next to Godliness, either. Are they not phrases coined by the Victorians?

Rest in peace is fine by me.

RIP, however, makes me cringe a bit. It's like something you'd see scrawled on a wall in Belfast after a prominent republicans/loyalists name.

Rest in Peace your YES vote Druidh! lol 😀

I'm guessing this is due to my R.I.P thread for JMC?
Wasn't quite the reaction I expected euro!
I'm not religious in any way it's just a mark of respect
If it winds you up that much you may have issues!!!

Well i have always thought it is a strange think to write.
But then again i like to think people have turned into something else maybe they are a eagle now or a polar bear so they are not dead only in the human form.If you see what i mean!!!!!!!!!

Me too dobie. I like CBAAF (come back as a fish) 😀

If it winds you up that much you may have issues!!!

You're thread did bring it to mind, but it's something i've always wondered about. Like plenty of other phrases i guess. To me it will always have a religious tone (raised a catholic and schooled by nuns)but i stopped believing at a young age and i don't think i've ever said or written it. I meant no disrespect fella.

Anyway, what about them wheels

I dont think 26"wheels will rest in peace.Mine are not going too 😀
They are going to stay jumping and sliding foreverrrrrrrrrrr.

They way some of you Dawkin groupie atheists keep banging on about religion,you must be all closet religious fanatics or something !!
Ive never seen R.I.P as being relgious. Rest is a respectful way of saying dead, and being dead certainly means you've left the pain, sorrow and struggle, that life can be for some, behind you. If you have no religion like me, R.I.P is what your going to get. Whever you deserve it or not.

I'm guessing the OP has no kids..
Whatever happens in death, whether I become fertiliser, an angel, part of the cosmic ohm or am reincarnated as God, a unicorn or a pubic louse, it's still going to be the next time that I get any rest or peace..

R,i,P ( Rest in peace) is a respectful phrase acknowledging the dead.

RIP, WTF ? Is possibly the least respectful post title, I've ever seen , bearing in mind another post on the front pages today.

How about DAM? (Dead and Missed)

Good, but I don't think it captures the spirit (punned you up real good) of this thread in sufficiently snappy terms.

I propose:

NARTBTITSBWBNTTHWIMRSMDNRSNR - Not Actually Riding the Big Trails in the Sky but would be nice to think he was if my rigorously scientific mindset did not render such notions repugnant.

Euro- fair enough, everyone has the right to there own thoughts and opinions-
No offence taken at your post-
Just found it amusing!
Anyway off to watch Dirt again and ride my bike round the living room!
.... Quietly so not to wake the kids!!!!

It tends to be the last thing written in your medical notes after your death has been certified. I have never seen it as a religious thing, it's more a ...fare thee well, where ever you may be bound ...
kind of thing, a little touch of humanity, a gentle push into whatever you might think comes next.

I'm not too sure RIP is used in the context described mainly above in this forum.

I think it gets used on this forum to announce some ones death. 'RIP Joe Bloggs' is more sensitive than 'Dead Joe Bloggs'. Some times it almost feels that people are racing to post the news first.

As to what ever comes next, there is nothing, its just odd the human psyche needs/wants to believe there is more

How can anyone alive know there is nothing? You can believe or not believe but you can't prove.

I'm a non believer by the way.

I have never ever thought of rip as being religious. To me it just means that if they had any troubles in life they are free of them in death.