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[Closed] Please stop all this 29r marketing tosh!!! You don't fool me!!!

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Fed up of the way the bike industry is going, forcing it in our faces that we must move with the times and buy a 29r!!! If they're that good then why have they only just started to take off?? Gary fisher did a 69r a few year back why did that not take off?? It's all about feeding the industry, like we must sell out 26rs and get with the times!!! Well I won't be fooled by all the bull shit!! Nor can i afford it! Yes they may roll better over smooth arse berm baby berm shite tracks but I like me tech! And big flimsy wheels ain't gonna do it for me, plus the fact they look like a circus bike! middle class celeb wannabes go ahead and spend yer brass! But to me it's the most ridiculous bike invention since dual brake/gear.
It's like they've run out of ideas and so think why not make bigger wheels!!! Lets see who falls for it!!!!!


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:35 pm
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Applauds


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:36 pm
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Hmmmm let me go and put the kettle on.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:36 pm
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i reckon you own a orange pussywillow.............. 😉


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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Then stick with your 26er, and let us ride the 29ers. And dry your eyes. Sorted.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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I have one of each. 26er full sus and a 29er rigid. Neither is worser or betterer, just different.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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i take it you have extensively tested them?


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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They dont JUMP aswell. :lol:.26"ers will be hear to stay dont panic 😆


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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Poor troll, bad day at the office? Please try again....


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:38 pm
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Oh look... a chip! Did that fall off your shoulder by some chance?


 
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Steve jones from dirt magazine may disagree with you and he definitely likes it tech!


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:40 pm
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25 years on 26" and now a 29" convert....... Go figure...........


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:40 pm
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Posted : 18/10/2012 8:41 pm
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Don't believe anything from the industry.
Question everything.

Look at jeff jones, he didn't like the XC replica geometry and invented a different approach that works really well for its intended purpose. Clean sheet, fresh drawing board etc.... Oh and it's a 29er...

Sincerely, question everything, including all the 26er lies you have been programmed with for 30 years.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:43 pm
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Sounds like someone is jealous of the other childrens toys.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:48 pm
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Posted : 18/10/2012 8:49 pm
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[quote=fenred ]Poor troll, bad day at the office? Please try again....

Why? Seems to be working rather well...


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 8:51 pm
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Ride and buy what you like, oh! 29er's are rubbish! 😉


 
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fenred » Poor troll, bad day at the office? Please try again....
Why? Seems to be working rather well

Is isn't it? Original statement stands 😉


 
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Posted : 18/10/2012 9:05 pm
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29ers I can understand for tall people. What I cant understand is nearly 1k for a fork.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:08 pm
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Wake up and smell the wagon wheeled coffee...


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:13 pm
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You can spend £1k as well on a 26er fork not only 29er's but you can buy a Reba 29er fork for £299. Not too bad!


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:16 pm
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could this be the best bike being made today? a 29er?


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:21 pm
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Calm down dear it's only a commercial.

Exclusively 26 here but a light rigid 29r could appeal.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:27 pm
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Pussywillow if you had one you would understand why people ride them, the yanks have been
riding them for years. Also i like pissing over people on 26'' bikes on the not so tech stuff. 😆


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:27 pm
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Tinfoil hat off lad..

and try a fat-tyred 650B?


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:31 pm
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Does the motor Bike industry do the same with off road bikes?


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:33 pm
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29ers are all hype, i looked at one once so I know all about them, mostly they are ridden by people who can't ride 26ers properly and think a 29er will magic them some talent


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 9:37 pm
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Rocketdog........that's me that's me.......
29er here and 2.5 26ers (one is in bits)

All have pluses and minus points


 
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Like a lot of people I'm convinced. I can see that if you're big/tall it could help with building a bike with better geometry, rolls along better on certain tracks....blah blah...

And now that those who can afford it have bought into the trend, along comes a nice 650b.....


 
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There are some really stupid posts on this thread. From both sides. ( esp you RD 😉 )


 
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I agree that the marketing has gone over the top, but then again doesn't it always... for everything? 29ers will not revolutionise mountain biking; not by any stretch of the imagination, but each to their own: If people want to spend their money on 29ers then they are welcome to.

I do tend to think that 29ers are a classic sign of the bike industry running out of ideas, or even just as a stop-gap, until the new revolution comes along.


 
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Yup it's all just marketing, honest 😆

I mean if there wasn't demand for them, no one would make them would they. But then again there may only be demand due to people making them :mrgreen:

I rather like mine, I'm under 6ft, not exactly middle class but I am a celeb in my own little big wheeled (some of the time) world.


 
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There are some really stupid posts on this thread. From both sides. ( esp you RD )

how dare you! 😛


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 10:02 pm
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Kinda liked those brake and shifter things.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 10:12 pm
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I honestly thought I'd be able to resist this one, being a relative short arse, but now I've tried one Ithink my next rigid ss will be a 29er. Can't see myself ditching 26 in wheels for more tech stuff though


 
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It's like fashion innit? Some people follow the fashion, some don't. What I don't get is, if It's been around for years, why has it taken so long to catch on? (bit like the Jimmy Saville thing, I mean thats taken a few years to raise it's ugly head).
So they've re-invented the wheel? What's the next invention as far as wheel size is concerned?
(I have ridden a 29er BTW)


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 10:17 pm
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Would you buy a brand new Ferrari just because of marketing ? probably not.

Marketing is everywhere and we buy what we want or can afford. If like a lot of us you have more than one bike why not have a 29er, I have a Rumblefish 29er full susser and love it but also have a couple of hard tails and a CX bike.

I think I have enough sense to choice the correct bike for the type or riding.

Can I go now ?


 
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I've just gone back to 26 after 18 months of 29er.... wasnt for me too slow in the handling even with a 50mm stem and 10 feet of bars.

felt weird, almost too massive frame wise... and im 6ft1


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 10:31 pm
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Starsh, was it the same 29er for those 18 months?


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 10:36 pm
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ride a26 anthem ,tried an anthem 29er with exactly the same spec . Had for a weekend and couldn't wait to give it back, but each to his own


 
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Starsh, was it the same 29er for those 18 months?

Specialized Carve for most of it & Cannondale flash 29er for a bit

on a mondraker foxy r at the mo very nice machine!


 
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It is getting a bit boring now with all the fanboys banging on about how they'll change your life in every magazine on the shelf. That said, while the world of mountain biking is busy arguing about wheel size, road bikes seem to be taking over the universe. I'm just happy being out my un-trendy and so last-season 26er.


 
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29ers meh, 26ers Yeah! 650bers.......tumble weed...distant church bells


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 11:08 pm
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woo 26er! i'm so niche.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 11:10 pm
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woo 29er! I have a beard (generalisation)


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 11:11 pm
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the yanks have been
riding them for years.

Yeah, but they've been riding Harley Davidsons for years too. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.


 
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I led a ride recently and asked one of the guys, who had just bought a 26er Camber, if he looked at the 29er version. He told me no because the steering was too slow and ponderous on a 29er

We then did some single track and he was so slow on the twisty stuff that I wasn't really sure on what his definition of slow and ponderous really was.


 
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trouble is spesh have lowered the camber top tube height to mirror a 26" wheeled bike & done some geometry tweeks again to make it feel like a 26" bike.....whats the point.

hmmm.


 
Posted : 18/10/2012 11:24 pm
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OP try Fatbike hating is much newerer that 29er hating.


 
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Think the OP here is a bit of a knob to be honest 🙄


 
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They look similarly fun to 26" bikes to me... but since all mine work fine i'm sticking with them.


 
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First things first. You can't show off how good a wagon wheeled bike is to anyone if it's a vid showing someone that's learnt to ride a bike on 20" wheels all his life ;O)

Some people follow the fashion, some don't. What I don't get is, if It's been around for years, why has it taken so long to catch on? (bit like the Jimmy Saville thing, I mean that's taken a few years to raise it's ugly head).

By 2015 29er's will hit the headlines of mtb magazines using the word 'monster' and 'odd ball' too.. after thousands of bikers will be left feeling like they've been 'inappropriately touched' by all this codswallop.


 
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Nice vid!

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Does the motor Bike industry do the same with off road bikes?

Honda used to sell trail bikes with 23" [i]front[/i] wheels for a while in the eighties, but soon went back to 21s. A 21" wheel with a trail tyre is probably 29" OD... An 17 on the back probably 26" OD.

All my bikes are 26ers, most of my commuting and local rides would probably be better on a 29er - I just CBA to change 😀


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 12:24 am
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Don't own a 29 but really like them.

They have absorbed all the grief spd's used to get in mountain biking. Now all the rad dudes target 29ers.


 
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Its just riding bikes, ride/buy what you can afford, let the man next to you do the same, but just go out there any enjoy it, something's will better, and something's worse, some will work for some and not others, find your own niche and hell just have fun...

(And yes I have a home built 69er rigid SS, a beard, and have been spotted wearing sandals before)


 
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i'm totally getting a 29er with spuds and ill make it 1x8 or something just to fit in with the new fad. (and ima grow a beard and not wash)


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:37 am
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If I won the lottery I'd buy every bike going and but I haven't so I'm quite happy to ride the same old 26 year after year. If your financial situation is different, treat yourself and good luck.

P.S. I still can't really see why other forks are worth the premium over a set of £200'ish Rebas for general trail stuff.


 
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Besides being the proud owner of a 2x9 29er (a bit behind the times there), I am trying to reinforce the stereotype by not shaving this morning. It feels great to be part of the herd.


 
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Now me, I'd no more decide that my next bike must have a certain size of wheel than I'd decide it must have a certain size of rotor, or a certain number of gears. I'd buy the whole bike, not some wheels with a bike coincidentally attached.


 
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[quoteOP try Fatbike hating is much newerer that 29er hating.

I don't hate fat bikes but they are rather odd..


 
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Pfft, klunking's the way forward. Of course the Transition chaps could make riding a scooter in the woods look appealing, there is a certain less-is-more charm.

Horse f'courses innit? I like a 26" pony with either a firm or bouncy rear end, some favour a 29" shire with no knees. I dabbled with a 69er wonky donkey, which was good fun and nippy but not as effortless to ride faster. Diversity is good, but specificity must be acknowledged. Unless you have the skillz to klunk.

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26ers or normal MTBs are proven, 29ers have been impressing people for some time. Take a look at kayaks or canoes, the diversity of style/volume/purpose has remained as such for a long time and continues to develop. A whitewater boat would work in the sea, but a surf boat would be better. This doesn't mean one invalidates the other.


 
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Now me, I'd no more decide that my next bike must have a certain size of wheel than I'd decide it must have a certain size of rotor, or a certain number of gears. I'd buy the whole bike, not some wheels with a bike coincidentally attached.

~the sound of applause from here~


 
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Exactly!
They get a pro rider to advertise it, he rides it well (but would ride a 26r better) and so the middle class celeb wannabes fall for the hype and buy one cos they've too much money and they think that'll make em just as gnar as the pro rider!! 😆
Thank you and god bless!


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 1:49 pm
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Won't find any of that rubbish around here! No silly little wheels to be found.


 
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But what If I own both?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 2:24 pm
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@pussywillow speaks the truth

The only reasons I hear from 29er riders is it makes things 'easier'... that charge vid proves they handle corners like a shed door.


 
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My point is im fed up of it being thrown in my face everywhere I look! It's all bullshit, if you've got one then please dont consider it a mountain bike!....it's a cycle cross bike, it's like they think it's up to them how they control us! And I won't be one of the sheep! I am a true free rider baby! Hallelujah! 8)


 
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i've fallen for the marketing tosh!

i've ordered a 29er!

i can't wait!

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@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!

It's amusing for a wet Friday afternoon anyway.

BTW my first 29er was on the dirt last week. 26 is over. Have you heard?


 
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@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!

It's amusing for a wet Friday afternoon anyway.

BTW my first 29er was on the dirt last week.[b] 26 is over. Have you heard?[/b]

The day that the 26" dies is the day mountain biking dies!! I'm sorry to say but your doing cycle cross riding!
Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on??? No, I don't think they would!
Please don't call yourselves mountain bike riders when your riding a circus bike.


 
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Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on???

Next niche! Liking the sound of that 8)


 
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Fair enough, whatever.

@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!

We win!


 
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Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on??? No, I don't think they would!
Please don't call yourselves mountain bike riders when your riding a circus bike.

Yes they do, it's the cruiser class (24", 26", hell you could enter on a 29er).

It's all right, you'll grow up to be a big strong boy soon and the big boys will invite you out to play, untill then just remember your mother loves you very very much.


 
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it's like they think it's up to them how they control us!

Now I'm confused - who is 'them' who is 'us'? In fact now that we have established I am a 'cycle crosser' , am I 'us', 'them' or 'nobby no-mates' ?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 3:21 pm
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You either embrace change or you don't. Marketing isn't exclusive to 29er bikes ... you would sort of have to opt out everything, including any commercial enterprise and live up a tree to make your point.


 
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Now I'm confused - who is 'them' who is 'us'? In fact now that we have established I am a 'cycle crosser' , am I 'us', 'them' or 'nobby no-mates' ?

I'm confused too! Is a cycle crosser someone that carves across your line whilst basking in his own gnarr or is Pissywallow talking out of his poo-shoot....Again 😯


 
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