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29ers meh, 26ers Yeah! 650bers.......tumble weed...distant church bells
woo 26er! i'm so niche.
woo 29er! I have a beard (generalisation)
the yanks have been
riding them for years.
Yeah, but they've been riding Harley Davidsons for years too. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.
I led a ride recently and asked one of the guys, who had just bought a 26er Camber, if he looked at the 29er version. He told me no because the steering was too slow and ponderous on a 29er
We then did some single track and he was so slow on the twisty stuff that I wasn't really sure on what his definition of slow and ponderous really was.
trouble is spesh have lowered the camber top tube height to mirror a 26" wheeled bike & done some geometry tweeks again to make it feel like a 26" bike.....whats the point.
hmmm.
OP try Fatbike hating is much newerer that 29er hating.
Think the OP here is a bit of a knob to be honest 🙄
They look similarly fun to 26" bikes to me... but since all mine work fine i'm sticking with them.
First things first. You can't show off how good a wagon wheeled bike is to anyone if it's a vid showing someone that's learnt to ride a bike on 20" wheels all his life ;O)
Some people follow the fashion, some don't. What I don't get is, if It's been around for years, why has it taken so long to catch on? (bit like the Jimmy Saville thing, I mean that's taken a few years to raise it's ugly head).
By 2015 29er's will hit the headlines of mtb magazines using the word 'monster' and 'odd ball' too.. after thousands of bikers will be left feeling like they've been 'inappropriately touched' by all this codswallop.
Nice vid!
trailster - Member
Does the motor Bike industry do the same with off road bikes?
Honda used to sell trail bikes with 23" [i]front[/i] wheels for a while in the eighties, but soon went back to 21s. A 21" wheel with a trail tyre is probably 29" OD... An 17 on the back probably 26" OD.
All my bikes are 26ers, most of my commuting and local rides would probably be better on a 29er - I just CBA to change 😀
Don't own a 29 but really like them.
They have absorbed all the grief spd's used to get in mountain biking. Now all the rad dudes target 29ers.
Its just riding bikes, ride/buy what you can afford, let the man next to you do the same, but just go out there any enjoy it, something's will better, and something's worse, some will work for some and not others, find your own niche and hell just have fun...
(And yes I have a home built 69er rigid SS, a beard, and have been spotted wearing sandals before)
i'm totally getting a 29er with spuds and ill make it 1x8 or something just to fit in with the new fad. (and ima grow a beard and not wash)
If I won the lottery I'd buy every bike going and but I haven't so I'm quite happy to ride the same old 26 year after year. If your financial situation is different, treat yourself and good luck.
P.S. I still can't really see why other forks are worth the premium over a set of £200'ish Rebas for general trail stuff.
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Besides being the proud owner of a 2x9 29er (a bit behind the times there), I am trying to reinforce the stereotype by not shaving this morning. It feels great to be part of the herd.
Now me, I'd no more decide that my next bike must have a certain size of wheel than I'd decide it must have a certain size of rotor, or a certain number of gears. I'd buy the whole bike, not some wheels with a bike coincidentally attached.
[quoteOP try Fatbike hating is much newerer that 29er hating.
I don't hate fat bikes but they are rather odd..
Pfft, klunking's the way forward. Of course the Transition chaps could make riding a scooter in the woods look appealing, there is a certain less-is-more charm.
Horse f'courses innit? I like a 26" pony with either a firm or bouncy rear end, some favour a 29" shire with no knees. I dabbled with a 69er wonky donkey, which was good fun and nippy but not as effortless to ride faster. Diversity is good, but specificity must be acknowledged. Unless you have the skillz to klunk.
26ers or normal MTBs are proven, 29ers have been impressing people for some time. Take a look at kayaks or canoes, the diversity of style/volume/purpose has remained as such for a long time and continues to develop. A whitewater boat would work in the sea, but a surf boat would be better. This doesn't mean one invalidates the other.
Now me, I'd no more decide that my next bike must have a certain size of wheel than I'd decide it must have a certain size of rotor, or a certain number of gears. I'd buy the whole bike, not some wheels with a bike coincidentally attached.
~the sound of applause from here~
trailster - Member
Does the motor Bike industry do the same with off road bikes?
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Exactly!
They get a pro rider to advertise it, he rides it well (but would ride a 26r better) and so the middle class celeb wannabes fall for the hype and buy one cos they've too much money and they think that'll make em just as gnar as the pro rider!! 😆
Thank you and god bless!
Won't find any of that rubbish around here! No silly little wheels to be found.
But what If I own both?
@pussywillow speaks the truth
The only reasons I hear from 29er riders is it makes things 'easier'... that charge vid proves they handle corners like a shed door.
My point is im fed up of it being thrown in my face everywhere I look! It's all bullshit, if you've got one then please dont consider it a mountain bike!....it's a cycle cross bike, it's like they think it's up to them how they control us! And I won't be one of the sheep! I am a true free rider baby! Hallelujah! 8)
i've fallen for the marketing tosh!
i've ordered a 29er!
i can't wait!
🙂
@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!
It's amusing for a wet Friday afternoon anyway.
BTW my first 29er was on the dirt last week. 26 is over. Have you heard?
mattjg - Member
@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!It's amusing for a wet Friday afternoon anyway.
BTW my first 29er was on the dirt last week.[b] 26 is over. Have you heard?[/b]
The day that the 26" dies is the day mountain biking dies!! I'm sorry to say but your doing cycle cross riding!
Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on??? No, I don't think they would!
Please don't call yourselves mountain bike riders when your riding a circus bike.
Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on???
Next niche! Liking the sound of that 8)
Fair enough, whatever.
@op I don't know if this thread is you winding us up or us winding you up!
We win!
Would they still call it a bmx if they put 26" wheels on??? No, I don't think they would!
Please don't call yourselves mountain bike riders when your riding a circus bike.
Yes they do, it's the cruiser class (24", 26", hell you could enter on a 29er).
It's all right, you'll grow up to be a big strong boy soon and the big boys will invite you out to play, untill then just remember your mother loves you very very much.
it's like they think it's up to them how they control us!
Now I'm confused - who is 'them' who is 'us'? In fact now that we have established I am a 'cycle crosser' , am I 'us', 'them' or 'nobby no-mates' ?
You either embrace change or you don't. Marketing isn't exclusive to 29er bikes ... you would sort of have to opt out everything, including any commercial enterprise and live up a tree to make your point.
Now I'm confused - who is 'them' who is 'us'? In fact now that we have established I am a 'cycle crosser' , am I 'us', 'them' or 'nobby no-mates' ?
I'm confused too! Is a cycle crosser someone that carves across your line whilst basking in his own gnarr or is Pissywallow talking out of his poo-shoot....Again 😯
😆
Good effort, but slightly disappointing rant. Could have been far more effective with random capitals and it made far too much sense grammatically. 4/10.
On the subject of 29", I am astonished at how many very tall riders there suddenly appear to be. On the Solaris thread recently, they all seemed to be freakishly tall. I don't want to be carrying round a ladder to get back on the bike in case I fall off, so staying with 26" here. Each to your own though. As you were.
I heard there was a proper MTB rim size in development, a new one designed for MTBs, not one that was borrowed off a CX/road bike, or some french randonneur bike. Or a kid's bike from the 60s.
I would say that,a am all for new development but not for silly ones either
cant remember which video it was i saw,it was along the lines of "well we have now tweaked the frames brakes and suspension,now it is the wheels we are sorting" 😀
🙄
AHWiles, you dissapoint me, I hope you wont be wearing your CGCC kit whilst riding the devils machine
26" wheels riders seem to get wound up really easily, is it small man syndrome?
I too was considering getting a cheapish 29er (canyon nerve al 29)
then i did the oktoberfest and witnessed pro/semipro riders trying to muscle and heave them through the twisty sections.
i lost count of the times some whippet would pass me on a climb on his big wheeler only to be amazed how comically slow they were through the twisty downhill sections.
i'll stick with my unfashionable blur LTc for the time being i think .
What does it matter, so long as you're riding? At the end of the day, though we love the kit and love to discuss it, the reality is that it is 99% the rider and 1% kit. You stick a good rider on anything and they'll ride i well. I can't remember where I heard this, but it is my new mantra: upgrade your ride, not your bike. Having said that I'm well and truly in the 29er camp. There are absolutely no downsides from my experience, my current 29er is just as manoeuvrable as my previous 26er, and definitely faster and just simply better (its more about geometry anyway rather than wheel size), though my next bike will most likely be a Cotic Rocket once I've saved the wonga, and I don't care that it is a 26er. I wouldn't sell a decent 26er for the sole purpose of getting a 29er, but if you're in the market anyway, you'd be a fool to not consider a 29er.
i lost count of the times some whippet would pass me on a climb on his big wheeler only to be amazed how comically slow they were through the twisty downhill sections.
that's just a fair proportion of XC racer types at events.. it's been happening since waaay before 29ers came along )
and so the middle class celeb wannabes
is it wrong to be middle class** ?
what about the working class celeb wannabes? are they OK?
** I live in Surrey and work in IT so I guess I'm a lost cause
