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[i]"A 50-year-old man who stretched barbed wire across a forest cycle path after a row with a motorcyclist, has appeared in court.
David Roberts, of Henllan Road, Trefnant, near Denbigh, North Wales, stood before magistrates at Llandudno.
He pleaded guilty to attempting to assault someone causing actual bodily harm at the Clocaenog forest near Denbigh.
The court heard a 10ft of rusty barbed wire had been left at chest height, wrapped around tree branches."[/i]
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Nutter!
A row with a [s]fictional[/s] unknown motorcyclist, eh?
Bit of a carp punishment though, hardly sends the right massage to other twunts around the country.
"Magistrates ordered Roberts to attend a Thinking Skills course, was placed under a twelve-month community order with rehabilitation and given a three-month 7pm to 7am curfew.
He was ordered to pay £170 costs."
Whoopee do.
Should have been 20 lashes with rusty barbed wire
Considering that the result of that act could well have been murder, of an entirely unconnected, completely innocent person, the sentence is frankly, laughable imo....
If you string stuff between trees then you should be done for attempted murder, and sentenced accordingly, simples.
Note the hint about mental issues in the story.
Would like to know more about the evidence and mitigation presented in court.
At the very least, his picture should have been published and circulated so that he can be identified if he's out on the trails.
a Thinking Skills course,
The mind really does boggle in this instance...
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Bit of a carp punishment though, hardly sends the right massage to other twunts around the country.
But at the very least it might send a message that you can get caught.
A thinking skills course should be part of the national curriculum - would lead to fewer issues of this kind, in general.
[quote=chakaping ]Note the hint about mental issues in the story.
Would like to know more about the evidence and mitigation presented in court.
THIS
thankfully no one was injured but he clearly has some issues if he is under the care of the mental health team
he clearly has some issues if he is under the care of the mental health team
Especially considering how hard it now is to get mental health care on the NHS, even for seriously unwell people.
Theres such thing as a "Thinking Skills" course? And its used as a punishment?
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I love this world...
You can't be sentenced for a murder you haven't committed, to be fair.
a Thinking Skills course,
The [b]mind really does boggle[/b] in this instance...
Maybe there's a course that can help you? 😉
you can its called a conspiracy though or hiring a hit man or an attempted murder
Personally, I think he should be charged under the terrorism act....but hey
He's been caught. Is he likely to offend again? Would sending him to jail be helpful in correcting his behaviour?
Would sending him to jail be helpful in correcting his behaviour?
Well he wouldn't be on the trails if he was behind the walls. So I'd say yes.
thinking skills course should be part of the national curriculum
You can lead a horse to water...
Maybe should have made him ride down his boobytrapped trail to see for himself what the outcome of his actions would be?
thinking skills course...
Seems it's an actual thing, 'Module 4' seems quite apt for a would be barbed wire decapitator:
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Not going with the flow but I think the courts did well here. There are many "issues" which would lead someone to think they were doing the right thing. Aspergers being one (I have this, but don't think he's right). A small scare will unambiguously tell people with these types of condition they are not right and they won't offend again.
Yes, the outcome would be horiffic. No, the offender didn't realise that. Yes, the offender did think the person they were targeting deserved it.
No, you can't understand. Neither will they. They will still think they were right. From their perspective they are right, and will remain so. It's likely no malice was intended.
I found out about my condition by being told I was wrong. Really wrong. I still cannot understand why and probably never will. You can't understand how upsetting it can be to not even understand why literally every other person agrees you are wrong and to not even agree or understand why. In my case it was just people thinking I was mean at work, but from my perspective they are wrong and I can genuinely explain why. It turns out I'm wrong. We're human, and you need to take that into account (I never used to...part of my issue!).
A thinking skills course should be part of the national curriculum
There was in the 90s. Our head of 6th form would say "common sense isn't so common, is it, moron?" before punishing me.
For those suggesting the punishment is wrong, what do you seriously suggest?
Would sending him to jail be helpful in correcting his behaviour?
Given his intention was to seriously hurt someone the sentence is a complete joke. He should be in jail. This isn't a spur of the moment thing, its a calculated act to deliberately hurt someone. No different than setting up a 'rambo trap' on a country lane IMO