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this pisses me off from a service i pay for.
But isn't really a strava thing. One, other or both of you has crap hardware.
This has given me the final push I think I needed to bin it off. (have been paying fro it since 2014. (I wasn't bothered by the extra stuff you got as a subscriber, I just prefer to support stuff I like using) . Realised I was always riding with half a mind on Strava times, which made me think about why I actually ride.
Mid ride yesterday another rider's holding a gate open for me, and says "Now your time will be a bit quicker" which made me realise just how ubiquitous Strava has become in our world.
Might go back, but for the time being It's nice to step off the treadmill a bit. (which is what it felt like it had become)
It feels weird now, I'll have to see how it goes.
Difficult to judge how annoying it is because I primarily use the segment times for MTB descents, and I'm not going full gas on those at the moment for obvious reasons.
Can you? This is what I’m getting.
ah balls, now its gone. The other functionality was removed last night but the "your results"was still working fine (IN the android app, I dont use the web) , but I've just checked again and now the "your results" has gone too.
So, that made strava pretty much useless now. Cant see me using it from now on.
I first noticed that I couldn’t see the flybys on my comp a week or two back and then wondered what had happened to my app over the past week after my mtb rides. This thread has cleared that up.
For me it’s a shame as I liked to compare my times on certain segments with myself and my pals over the past few years. But to pay the same amount as I pay to watch Netflix (for example) just doesn’t give me value. It’s just not that important.
Disappointing, but I’ll probably go back to timing a ride ( when I’m on a mission) rather than worrying about short segments here and there along the way.
By making any sort of segment time comparisons unavailable, it automatically makes them less interesting to everybody, including most of those who are paying. People will use Strava as just a basic ride distance/speed/elevation logger, so the small number of 'premium' riders will be the only ones specifically putting in an effort on a particular segment, so they'll just be engaging with a significantly smaller pool of motivated riders, particularly when it comes to the 'this year' metric.
Be interesting to see if accidents decrease - I only really make a maximum effort down a hill if I think I’ve got a chance of improving my segment time, so removing that metric will make my rides a bit safer.
I’m not paying more for Strava than I do for Netflix!
I’m not paying more for Strava than I do for Netflix
Easy, up your netflix account!.
Mrs Nobeer has just subscribed too, sorted, she uses lots of the training stuff that ain't now free.
I only really make a maximum effort down a hill if I think I’ve got a chance of improving my segment time, so removing that metric will make my rides a bit safer.
That's quite bizarre.
I’m still undecided about paying but I’d quite like to download all my previous activities in any event, either because I choose to leave or because they might go bust and I lose it all. Over the last couple of years I’ve done a lot of stuff with my eldest (now 16). He’s not quite so interested anymore so I’d like to get the activities, routes, photos etc into a format I could use for photo montages, photo books etc.
Can anybody post up a link to an easy way to do this - there seems to be a lot of info out there but none of it is very concise...
Thanks!
By making any sort of segment time comparisons unavailable, it automatically makes them less interesting to everybody, including most of those who are paying.
Not sure I get your logic. The paid members still see them, all times, not just other paid members. What makes you think somebody will be less interested in a segment time because a free member cant see the times?
I run Strava from my phone that sits in my pack, I'm not going any quicker down a hill because there is a segment, I'm doing it because its bloody good fun.
Not sure I get your logic. The paid members still see them, all times, not just other paid members. What makes you think somebody will be less interested in a segment time because a free member cant see the times?
Basically cos if you're a free member and you can't see the times, you won't be aiming for them - that free member who might have been comparing his/her times, and generally pushing it a bit more will no longer do so. This devalues the segment. If you're really don't care about other people's times this isn't a problem, but if you want to see how you're doing relative to your age group or whatever it is.
Not sure I get your logic. The paid members still see them, all times, not just other paid members. What makes you think somebody will be less interested in a segment time because
The argument is that if fewer folk use Strava, the smaller the pool of riders you are comparing yourself to and hence the less Kudos you can give yourself.
The argument is that if fewer folk use Strava, the smaller the pool
Fair enough. I was referring more to the people who said they would keep using the free version.
Not sure why I am bothered, not like I am troubling the top half of the leaderboard very often
Not sure I get your logic. The paid members still see them, all times, not just other paid members. What makes you think somebody will be less interested in a segment time because a free member cant see the times?
Which would you value more, a good position on a fiercely contested segment with 1000s of riders or one with a few dozen?
If you take away the urge to compete on a particular segment for the vast majority of users (2% of Strava users are premium), then the resulting 'competition' is less valid, because the vast majority of users aren't trying that hard any more. This is obviously more of a factor in the 'This Year' comparison, and some people will be happy enough registering a time on the historic leaderboard back from when everybody was trying. But removing the week by week interest for nearly all those who previously were actively trying to compete devalues the leaderboard for paid-for members as well.
EDIT: Beaten to it by everyone. Obviously, as a non-member, I wasn't trying that hard anyway...
Also free members could make his activities private in retaliation! So they wouldn’t appear in the leaderboard, even for paying members...
Also free members could make his activities private in retaliation!
That's a good point. And yes, if all I'm getting is distance and elevation, then that isn't even retaliation, it's the next logical step.
That’s a good point. And yes, if all I’m getting is distance and elevation, then that isn’t even retaliation, it’s the next logical step.
I wouldn't be surprised if they take away the privacy option for Lamprey members tbh. As a subscriber, I'll maybe raise this with them. 🙂
Edit - Speaking purely as a STW Lamprey....
Is it just me, or has the privacy zone gone if others have created them?
Just doing my usual quick scan of where others are riding, I swear there are a number of users where I'm seeing their rides start and finish from the same point (usually home), rather than seeing a small gap between their start and finish points.
The only thing I'm going to miss is the personal historic segment comparisons...but I have a radical solution, I shall star the segments I'm bothered with (to see if I'm getting faster..or need to 'train' some more) - I shall buy a notebook and keep it by my computer and keep a log, you know with an old fashioned pencil and all...the notebook may cost £4 but it'll last for many years - If I summon up both of my powers I may even be able to plot a graph.
Tbh, reading Strava's email statement really grates. Its as if they think the only reason we ride is for some sort of community recognition for our 'achievements'...No Strava, we've been enjoying riding our bikes for many decades before your social meeja reciprocal confirmation tool was even an electron itch at the base of your data-mining server.
Lamprey members
Lamprey? I hand over a huge amount of useful data to Strava that they could be monetising.
Speaking purely as a STW Lamprey
So is this forum a surfeit of lampreys?
Using a web browser (not the app); Go to your settings (drop down menu top right with your picture) > my account > Download or Delete Your Account (Get Started) > Select option 2
You will be emailed a link to download the archive
So is this forum a surfeit of lampreys?
Is Singletrack Towers the court of Henry VIII? Hopefully Hannah isn't Anne Boleyn in this scenario.
n0b0dy0ftheg0at
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Is it just me, or has the privacy zone gone if others have created them?Just doing my usual quick scan of where others are riding, I swear there are a number of users where I’m seeing their rides start and finish from the same point (usually home), rather than seeing a small gap between their start and finish points.
So are you suggesting that if I have privacy settings set up (as I do) but don't subscribe those settings are not enacted? I'm sure the ICO would be interested in that if the case.
Is Singletrack Towers the court of Henry VIII?
Henry I shirley?
Its a shame to lose my results comparison
but I dont pay for it so , cant really complain
I just use it to see how much ive cycled each month
perhaps they could give us the old free functionalities but with a micropayment of say £1 a month?
Id probably pay that, not sure if it would be enough tho
Henry I shirley?
That's me taking the Strava approach to historical data. 🙂
perhaps they could give us the old free functionalities but with a micropayment of say £1 a month?
Id probably pay that, not sure if it would be enough tho
They have 55m users and around 2.5% subscribed. So around £6-7M/month income. They only need to convert 10-15% of non subscribers to the £1 to double their gross income. I suspect they'd do much better than that TBH.
n0b0dy0ftheg0at
Member
Is it just me, or has the privacy zone gone if others have created them?Just doing my usual quick scan of where others are riding, I swear there are a number of users where I’m seeing their rides start and finish from the same point (usually home), rather than seeing a small gap between their start and finish points.
So are you suggesting that if I have privacy settings set up (as I do) but don’t subscribe those settings are not enacted? I’m sure the ICO would be interested in that if the case.
Like I wrote, I'm not sure if privacy zones are being observed.
Where does the ride start from your prospective?
a St Johns Ambulance station.
@Pyro @dangeourbrain Thanks, so my privacy setting is working!
Maybe it's my imagination then, but I swear for the few people I follow, at a very casual look it seemed in recent weeks that their privacy zone had vanished... Maybe they simply got out of the habit of starting and ending their rides a short distance from home.
Where does the ride start from your prospective?
Dean Road, just north of the junction with Haynes Road
perhaps they could give us the old free functionalities but with a micropayment of say £1 a month?
Would actually be better if each function can be subscribed to and the overall price is just a combination of which feature you switch on/off
For example I use segments times, but I don't use route planning.
Can't see them bothering to do that though as would be harder to implement, regression test etc,.
For example I use segments times, but I don’t use route planning.
Aye, I'm sure if ye go to sky, tell them you don't watch football, they'll reduce your fee accordingly, and Netflix, tell em ye avoid romcoms, they'll maybe even refund you! 🙂
Genuine question, why do folk bother with Strava for counting mileage? Endomundo is far better for having a quick look at your totals I've always found.
I've always thought of Strava as the one to use if you fancy some virtual racing that's actually out side, kinda like a time trial against others at a time that suits you.
Genuine question, why do folk bother with Strava for counting mileage? Endomundo is far better for having a quick look at your totals I’ve always found.
Because strava does my cycling and my running, manages my gear such as bike mileages and more importantly running shoe mileage. I don't know anyone who uses endomondo tbh.
But if you're just counting mileage it shouldn't matter who you know that uses Endomundo.
Good point about Strava and your gear mileage though, Endo doesn't do that, but you've always been able to count up separate activities.
I use both, Endo for free and paid up Strava, I still find Endo easier to see my totals of all sports or individually at a glance.
Just got the free trial . The daily record of people on a segment is not there.
That was more relevant than anything as with the year timing you could be comparing a really mud time to a bone dry, non overgrown time.
Give me the daily stats and I'll subscribe ,otherwise I'm out.
Or am I wrong?
why?
Because I've used it for every ride and run since 2013/14, and everything is already there. I like to look at my total durations and distances over that time period. I've saved each activity as the correct sport, identifying which bike I used on any given ride. It shows me who I rode with. It is almost a diary and I don't want to change the way I use it.
I rode a segment relatively local to me last week, thought 'oh, I haven't been down there for a while' checked Strava and it appears I last went that way in September 2016, nice little ride that was in 2016, judging by the title Bob had a funny OTB, I remember it well in fact we still sometimes laugh about it but didn't realise it was that long ago, had a couple of other mates with me that I haven't seen for a few months, maybe I should see how they are doing, ah I added a photo of the mid ride pub stop, weather was great, looking forward to that pub being back open and sitting in the beer garden.
It is a diary. Other tools may also do similar, but I'm happy sticking with it for now. Given the use and enjoyment I've had from the free version over the years I'm going to pay for a couple of years and see it if or my use of it changes.
But if you’re just counting mileage it shouldn’t matter who you know that uses Endomundo.
Not really got across what I meant, sorry. Because no one I know uses it, I'd never really heard of it until recently, so that's whay I never used it.
Otherwise, peekay gets across some other good points about Strava tbh.
Ok, I guess it's whatever you used all those years ago to begin with? Fair enough.
I started using Endomundo in late 2010 resisted Strava until 2012. I suppose I've always used Endo for the totals and Strava was far better at the competitive features like the segments.
Used to use Endomondo, pre-Strava. Wouldn't consider it again because getting my bloody data back out of it was a nightmare - needed to use some crazy browser scraping to extract my old rides.
Whatever else we might think about Strava, they at least have a sensible and easy to use data extract tool for if you want to leave and take your data with you.
Looks like you can't use the Route Creator if you aren't a subscriber now.