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[Closed] New rear shock options for a 2006 Enduro?

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I been looking around at new rear shocks for my 2006 Enduro but there doesn't seem to be much about.

The sizing seems to be the main issue as my version is 8.5 x 2.25 which seems pretty rare.

Anyone else changed theirs and if so what with?


 
Posted : 07/04/2010 10:10 pm
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the 8.5 x 2.25 shock on an Enduro gives 140mm travel
other versions of the Enduro had an 8.75 x 2.5 shock giving 150mm travel, so you could use this size of shock and get more travel too
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I've put an 8.75 x 2.75 coil shock on my 06 Enduro with the slack shuttle, I made a rubber bumper for the axle so that the compressed length of the shock is 6.25, the same as the stock shock for the Enduro but I don't think I actually need it as the shock wouldn't foul if it went down to a compressed length of 6.0


 
Posted : 07/04/2010 10:18 pm
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Would the frame take a 8.75 x 2.5?

I would have thought some of the frame dimensions would have been changed to accommodate the longer shock?

If I can get it 150mm travel that would be great!


 
Posted : 07/04/2010 10:23 pm
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yes
I believe that the lower of the Enduro models (the Elite?) had less travel at the front and therefore a shorter fork, so they put less travel at the back (140mm) to keep the geometry the same as the higher models (Expert? S-works?) which had a longer/ greater travel fork and a longer stroke shock on the back giving more travel (150mm)
the compressed shock was 6" on all Enduro models and that's what counts
does that make sense? it did to me at the time
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I've had a hard day and someone's bleating in my ear so sorry if it doesn't 😀


 
Posted : 07/04/2010 10:30 pm
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That does make sense and is music to my ears as I wanted to run longer forks but was worried about it turning into a chopper!

Just need to pass the the new double spend with the wife now!


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 10:51 am
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If you can find one then a Vanilla R from (I think) a stinky or a coiler will fit. Thats what I ran on mine and had it custom tuned by TF and it was great. I think I would have preferred a good air shock like a RP23 but finding one to fit was too difficult.

You can get some air shocks in 8.5x2.5 that will just fit, I think you have to run the steep shuttle tho. An RP2/3/23 on an Enduro would be ace. I would like to have tried mine with an RP23.

I did run it with a 8x2 Van rc for a couple of rides and wound the forks down to 120mm and back to 160mm for DH and it was good fun. Although the bb was very low like this. I would quite like to experiment with one again but have a shed load of cash to blow on different length shocks and different forks. I think a 8x2 shock with Pikes at 140mm and a mid weight build would make it an ace trail bike.


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 11:19 am
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i think my mate's was an 06, possibly 07. Had a 5th elephant on there which went bad. He spoke to Tim@TFT and now has a lovely DHX 5.0 which is very, very nice indeed.


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 11:22 am
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If it had a 5th Element it would have been a 2006.

Looking at a DHX Air vs Vanilla R Coil now, which compaired to yesterday is quite a nice position to be in!


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 12:24 pm
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go coil, DHX Airs just don't feel right, wallowy, unresponsive and not without their maintenance issues
apparently the Enduro was designed around a Cane Creek double barrell so you could try one of the them ($$$$$)


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 2:39 pm
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I had a 5th on my 05.

The DHX air is crappy on an enduro but can be made to feel better.

If you can get hold of a low volume air can from any other modern fox float shock then a lot of the DHX air issues will be solved. Most of the issues come from it having too large an air chamber making it blow through the travel too easy on a enduro. Of course there are other maintenance issues that I don't know much about. A Van Air would be a very good buy indeed.


 
Posted : 08/04/2010 3:30 pm
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CCDB would be lovely but my budget won't go that far and I am planning on getting a new frame early next year anyway.

Thanks for all the suggestions, really fancy trying a coil on it What does running a steep shuffle mean tho? I am assuming there is an issue with the piggy back on the shock hitting the frame somewhere if you get the wrong one?


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:23 pm
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yep, on fox piggy-back shocks with a schraedar valve for the boost pressure the valve hits the frame, which is why spesh specific shocks don't have the valve fitted.

Where abouts are you based? If you're near bristol I have a DHX5 air you could borrow to try, or a DHX5 coil(8.5 not 8.75) you could try. drop me an email if you're interested... 😀


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:35 pm
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You should have 2 shock shuttles for where the shock mounts onto the frame. One for slack geo/low bb and the other for steep geo/hi bb. The shuttles will say on them what they are.

If the piggyback hits the frame it will do so at all times and this wont change much over the compression of the shock, it will move up and down a couple of degrees. Using the low shuttle can avoid it hitting if it does when using the high shuttle.

Have a look at this photo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29930426@N04/3100278766/sizes/o/in/set-72157623602133263/
and compare it to this photo to see the difference between the two shuttles.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29930426@N04/3214520147/sizes/l/in/set-72157623602133263/


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:37 pm
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And the DHX air felt pretty good on mine, yet to try the coil out in anger so can't compare yet.


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:38 pm
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On my bike the coil(TFtuned vanR) is plusher with more traction than the dhx air. But on most UK trails the ultimate speed would come with the DHX air as it has more platform for pumping the pedals and ground.

I love the both for different reasons. The bike is pretty heavy anyway so weight/climbing differences do not mean that much as it is always a slog to the top.


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:56 pm
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It was only the first generation DHX coils that had issues with the valve contacting the frame. The current model will fit fine. The only issue is you have to remove the shock from the frame to change the air pressure in the piggy back.
I had a DHX coil on my enduro and it was excellent. Get the 8.5 X 2.5 for 6 inches of travel. Mojo can supply that length.


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 12:58 pm
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loads of room:
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Posted : 09/04/2010 1:01 pm
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Tiboy - I am based in Bristol so may take you up on that offer as it would be great to try one out before taking the plunge!

I like the sound of the coil and if I can try and get a Ti spring the weight penalty won't be huge and like you say it's not meant to be a light weight bike.

Currently running the Hi shuttle as I was getting fed-up with clattering pedals every few mins!


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 1:28 pm
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No problem, the DHX air is off the bike at the moment so you're welcome to borrow that straight away, would need to source a bushing, or swap it across from your current shock.


 
Posted : 09/04/2010 5:30 pm