[Closed] New forks!

You should be able to make a crush washer last for 3 seal services or 2 weeks, whichever comes sooner

That's good to know.

What?

Shoulda bought RS 😈

Already got original RS Revs (130mm) on an Orange 5. They're OK, but not good enough. Plus, the "U-Turn" is a pain in the arse.

What's all this stuff about "crush washers"?

at the foot of each leg under the nut stop oil leaking out - supposed to be replaced each time you do an oil seal service (hence the 3 services/a fortnight comment).

Come on this all academic, you bought the fox already... though you shoulda got some Blackbox 150mm Rev's (much better than the std moco IMO).
Also the U-turn has been replaced by the "2 step" system, though personnally I prefer the idea of the U-turn to it (admittedly the fox system is very very good), as I only tend to go down 10mm for climbs or twisty stuff.

Woppit; there's a huge water main burst near East Croydon so severe delays to train services apparently. Dunno if that affects your journey or not but it took a friend hours to get back to Victoria from Three Bridges just now.

So your travel may be extended.

Yeah the crush washers .............

as wwaswas said, you're supposed to change them every time you do a seal service [every 15hrs] but you can make them last
It's about every 2 weeks for me at the moment but I don't think it really needs it.

you're supposed to change them every time you do a seal service

Translate: you're supposed to change them every time you [s]do a seal service[/s] give it to the LBS mechanic...

I ride 2-3 times a month spring, summer and autumn. Rarely in winter.

So your "15" hours is actually "bung it at the LBS once a year", matey. 8)

Seriously, service every 15 hours?

I haven't serviced my pace 41 fighters for over a year now and they still feel fine

Thanks for the headsup, Elfin. I'm at home today, but also it's a different line - I'm Surbiton-Waterloo these days.

Appreciate the thought, though. 8)

Edit: "...travel may be extended". Oh yes. Ha, and indeed, ha. 😉

No the new ones from 2011 onwards are every 30hours - keep up! 2012 service intervals gone up to 100 hours!

Yeah, 2012 Fox Forx have SKF seals and a 100 hour service interval. The SKF seals can be retrofitted to older forks - thay are about £25.

yeah might get some at some point edd 🙂

The booklet with my 2012 F29s says .............

clean and inspect dust wipers - every 15hrs
Inspect dropout wear - every 30hrs
Inspect bushings - every 30hrs
Suspension fluid service - every 30hrs
Change Float Fluid in air spring chamber - every 30hrs

keep up!

I've had ONE service on my Revs (Tim F) in five years. Admittedly, they DID get completely shonky before I had them looked at but to be honest, with the usage these and the new ones get out of me, once a year is fine.

Marzocchi are 'service every 3 years' now.

Benefits of a decent amount of oil in each leg!

It looks like the booklet is at odds with the website on the service intervals - I've emailed them

I'll let you know

I did a seal service for the 1st time on my 2011 Talas 140 RLC a few weeks ago and the foam rings were pretty much clean. They've been used 3-5 times a week since January and the stanchions sprayed with Fork Juice or silicon spray regularly.

My own view on them -
+ves
Kashima coat does seem to reduce stiction
Very smooth
2 position Talas adjuster much better than the old 3 position one
Light
Good small bump control

-ves
Took a while to get them set up
Hideously expensive (glad I bought nearly new on here)

A mate has Dual position Revelation World Cups with the 2 step adjust and I wouldn't swap him. The Fox look better finished and feel smoother.

Five deserves 36s.

@ uplink - have a look on their website - they have just changed their service intervals - this was in the news recently! - keep up 😉 Your booklet is out of date!

http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/012/index.html

I did look at it but the booklet [which has 2012 printed on it] says 15hrs - hence I've emailed them for clarification

I have heard this from several reliable sources 🙂

This a direct link to the tech page:

http://service.foxracingshox.com/consumers/Content/service_intervals.htm

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yep, seen that

doesn't seem to mention dust wiper service though ❓

OK,

I sent the following to Fox .......

Hi,

The booklet that came with my 2012 F29s has the following service intervals defined

clean and inspect dust wipers - every 15hrs
Inspect dropout wear - every 30hrs
Inspect bushings - every 30hrs
Suspension fluid service - every 30hrs
Change Float Fluid in air spring chamber - every 30hrs

which seems at odds with the info on your website ............. which lists most tasks as 100 hr intervals

could you clarify for me please?

This is the reply I received .........

Hello,

Please follow the service intervals in your booklet as the ones seen online are most likely old information that needs to be updated.

Thanks,

Tom Karambela
Customer Service and Aftermarket Sales
Bicycle Division
FOX Racing Shox
www.foxracingshox.com
http://service.foxracingshox.com

i tried to get some marz t1 55s but they all gone. new crown and steerer should stop the creaking noise on the lyrics....................every make has something wrong it seems
forking hell!

Haha, so who is not keeping up in here? 🙂

As for Fox forks, they look very nice and work super smooth, I'll be putting a F100 RLC on my OH's dad bike soon. He has a Reba at the moment. I used RS for the last 3 years and have to say they are as smooth as Fox if looked after, the difference might be in the damping department will have to see.

I think that it was established that the premature stanchion wear was down to using muck off type of cleaners, not looking after the fork but also the riding condition someone has.

Fox look nice but for my riding I don't feel that my Revs are lacking, I'm probably not using them to the full potential.

Bottom line is, look after any fork and it will keep on working. Fox look very good and if I would buy one brand new than I would make sure I look after it, especially that wiping the dust off the uppers and seals, then either some oil on seal lip or a spray with some fork juice doesn't take more than 2 minutes.

[edit] My mate has a 44 RLO Bomber with the 3 year no service warranty. They are not super smooth straight out of the box, but once bedded in they do work beautifully. After almost 2 years and no service whatsoever the fork still works super smooth, no wear to the black anodizing, no oil or air leaks. His is a fairly simple model but seems Marzocchi upped their game.
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Sorry but I was aware that they have increased their service intervals - That is a very lazy email from Fox - Have you tried Mojo - they are usually much more helpful - I will now email them myself!

ones seen online are most likely old

I think that's a load of horse poo as the previous years have very different service intervals on the web based and pdf based manuals!

It is a lazy email from them and I've replied that the 2012 info on the website clearly isn't old and can they look into it further

Great forks so a great purchase, just swap out the seals to the enduro seals when you get round to doing a seal change. Fox forks are very easy to do a quick or full service so don't worry about any of it and just enjoy riding. Most people on this forum site like to put a downer on peoples expected purchases unless it has shimano or hope wrote on it or its a ss 29er!

I've had the talas forks, they were ok but IMO the travel adjust feature isn't worth the extra over the floats. 110mm was too low over anything remotely techy as it dropped the bb too far resulting in pedal strikes. I'm much happier with the floats and have kept them at 160mm without detriment to climbing. In a nutshell, I'd recommend the floats in the 32 150mm or 36 160 flavour dependent on your riding. I wouldn't buy talas again.

Fox forks are very easy to do a quick or full service so don't worry about any of it

I've got absolutely no worries about serving forks, or any qualms about buying them
I'm just trying to get clarity on the recommended service intervals as the difference between the manual and the website detail is substantial

FWIW - mine definitely have SKF seals

This is the paper manual

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The skf seals should be a marked improvement, I would just do it as regular as you can depending on the conditions you have been riding in and how often you have been out as the forks are not cheap, I don't worry about exact timings of servicing, I have just done when I think its needed or I have some spare time to fettle with my bike and I've not had any problems with wear on stantions etc. If in doubt I always phone Mojo and go by what they tell me.

Reply from mojo copying the contents of uplinks original email

Hi

The Manual is correct and that's what we recommend. If its not too much trouble would it be possible to point me in the direction of the details specifying the "100 hr intervals" recommendations on our site as I'm not away of any.

Sorry for any confusion, but you are correct to follow the manual.

Cheers,

Mojo Suspension Hoodoo Ltd.

Sorry thats the info i was given recently 🙁 Sorry [goes away to eat humble pie and cry]