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Had it less than a month, done about 600'ish miles on it and it's sagging like a saggy thing from saggy things 'R' us.
I didn't proofhide it, but surely if it's just down to that then not proofing them at the factory is plain stupid.
I certainly never proofed the one I rode in the 70s and that was fine..
Or is it because it's wet? Do I let it dry and tighten it?
Mine did the same... they really don't like getting wet.. pretty sure you aren't meant to get them wet.
Wait till is dries and see where your at .. they reckon tension wise they only ever require quarter or half turn...
.. high maintenance saddle !!! very comfy though
A saddle you aren't supposed to get wet? Great for cycling in GB then...
Still, at least they're cheap 😯 ,light 😯 , and don't need to spend ages breaking them in 😉
DON'T tighten it whilst wet, you'll stretch it beyond hope.
Honestly, you'll ruin it.
It should regain it's shape once it dries.
I've proofided all mine from new, from both sides and tend to wrap them in a placcy bag if it's chucking it down.
Also try and let them dry out between soakings.
Anyway, post up a picture, let's have a look.
At the price of modern ones I'd be sending the bloody thing back if it's knackered.
My last B17 was £21.99 in 2001, not prepared to pay £60 odd quid for a new one.
Currently looking at the Spa Cycles alternatives, will order one as soon as they are back in stock.
I've bought the Swift. It's on my training bike, I sort of went down the bike for life thing! Ti frame, Chris King you know and a Brooks. I'm not usually out for less than 100km at a time, but I didn't expect it to shit itself on a typical British wet Spring day.
not had any problems with mine, although they have looked battered, then I just let it dry out and re-treat it and it comes up good.
They need looking after. Most will come with a cover.
Yeah mine did, but you can't put a cover on it when your out riding.
I'm proper not happy, I was going to use it to ride to Paris and back again.
As above.....a saddle you can't get wet??!!!!
put a pic up, mine looked seriously battered but a good dry out near the log burner and a bit of elbow grease and it was just right.
i don't have any of mine in battered state.
As above.....a saddle you can't get wet??!!!!
You can, you just need to look after it, If you never oil your chain and it gets wet it will die too.
My Swift is the same, one side has popped out a bit. I think it's because there's nothing securing the two sides of the saddle together unlike the Swallow.
However, it is pretty comfy, I rode a century on mine yesterday with no issues.
Although, as above pics would help...
Looking better, but still sagging and very very soft. Previously it was straight nose to tail.
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Will proofing it delay this happening in the future? It feels like I could tear it with my hands.
The leather looks in good nick, hard to tell from photo,
Take it off your bike, leave it somewhere warm for a couple of days then tighten it up, I think with a bit of work it'll be fine.
Its likely to still have a fair bit of damp in it due to the temp and weather if you got it soaked.
Will proofing it delay this happening in the future? It feels like I could tear it with my hands.
Yes, also looks its not been kept tight.
You read the instructions right ? The ones that say use mudguards .......
They dont like getting wet but offer great comfort so i can deal with it - did 300k in pouring rain on my b17 with a tesco bag on it - im sure folk are laughing as their bikes look so awesome with out the tesco bag but given i was able to do another 200k the next day no undercarridge issues i see that as a price worth paying !
I have 2 b17s and a swallow - swallow was a huge dissapointment compared to the b17s tbh.......
I used Sno-Seal on mine (B17) when I got it. I also tightened it up occasionally. A few thousand km later and it's still fine. I've never put a plastic bag or anything on it either.
I've got a b17 on my beater that gets soaked and muddy. I've proofided it once to make it look a little bit more brown again, but since then haven't had to touch it. It's quite soft but I think that's the point.
So for a mudguard-less training bike I use all year round it's a crock of shit then.
I don't want to ride to suit my kit, my kit needs to suit my rides.
Bad, very bad indeed.
Let it dry properly in the warm, proof ride top and bottom, tighten if necessary. Like others I've used mine in all weathers without issue but they need a little tlc.
You ride alone in winter then or at back of pack ?
So for a mudguard-less training bike I use all year round [b]and don't look after[/b] it's a crock of shit then.
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I've put >20k on my touring B17 in all weathers and it's fine. Q. Do your leather shoes spontaneously fall apart when worn in the rain? Errrm probably not.
Dry it naturally then proofhide it both sides (I actually use Neetsfoot oil sparingly cos I got it FOC from the local stables). I tend to bag mine when they stand in the rain but not when using them.
If you don't want a saddle that needs a bit of TLC, sell it and buy a plastic one. Sorted 🙂
You ride alone in winter then or at back of pack ?
Used to use guards, but was the only one doing so. gave up in the end.
Dry, proofhide both sides (more on the bottom) and re-tension. Repeat for next 20 years. Use a saddle cover in the rain next time. Brooks's isnt that big.
To be honest, I rode with my B17 on the singlespeed off-road for the past year. Needed a lot of proofhide after some very wet rides. I also use Black Parade polish to bring it back - that one isn't official policy. Swapped to a Flite Ti to tackle more technical stuff, but maintenance was not an issue.
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Sorry to bang on about this, but PLEASE DON'T tighten it up just yet!
The only really knackered Brooks saddles I've seen have been overtightened when wet.
Try and mould it back to the original shape by hand if you can, then let it dry naturally, not on top of a fire.
Once it's really, really dried out, I'd apply a bit of proofide to both sides and buff the top.
I don't think you've knackered it beyond repair, just accelerated the breaking in process!
oldgit - MemberSo for a mudguard-less training bike I use all year round it's a crock of shit then.
I don't want to ride to suit my kit, my kit needs to suit my rides.
Bad, very bad indeed.
Well, how would you treat a handmade pair of leather boots?
Soak them everyday, not polish them or give them a chance to dry out and then leave them in the shed? 😉
Oh, if you still don't want it after you've done all that, I'll give you £20.00 for it. 🙂
Righto.
Taken it off with the post and brought indoors. I noticed straight away that the nose bolt assembly is loose. I'll leave it to dry and tension it if needs be next weekend.
Just about to order proofhide and one of those natty guards.
The wAter has swollen the weather thatsbwhy the bolt seems loose ....
When it drys it will tighten up again
Ifnyou tighten it now when it drys it will either tear or be uncomfortable as hell
Try and get it back into shape whilst its still wet, once dry it'll be difficult to get sorted!
I always carry an old carrier bag in my back pack, and wrap it up when the weather gets bad!
Definite 1st world problem this one.
I would shape it, let it dry, tighten it up, proof it and then sell it and buy a saddle that suits the riding I do.
Once it's dried out give the underside a good blathering (technical term) in proofide but don't polish it off. Give the topside a smearing of proofide - leave it overnight and then buff with a nice clean cloth (your lasses old pants will work best).
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Don't be too eager to apply proofide all the time, a quick wipe over prior to a wet ride will be more than enough
Brooks saddle covers are not overly expensive, look far better than a Tesco bag (not sure if they do a better job) and fold up small enough to take on most rides
Brooks saddle covers are not overly expensive, look far better than a Tesco bag (not sure if they do a better job) and fold up small enough to take on most rides
I assumed that was for storage or transportation, not for actually riding with?
+1 for using sno seal, really waterproof's it, 1000 times better than proofide.
+1 for using sno seal, really waterproof's it, 1000 times better than proofide
were do you get it seems to be american
Try outdoors shops. I got mine for waterproofing walking boots.
It's looking a bit better, still feel a bit suckered though.
Had trouble locating Sno-Seal as well.
Sno-seal has Bees Wax as a component. It may be that there are other, similar brands? Grangers G-Wax is, I believe, very similar.
The picture you put up had me thinking, it does look like you don't have the saddle set level, and you've ended up squishing it wierdly?
It may just be me though....
Sno seal here
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sno-Seal-All-Season-Leather-Protector-7oz-Tub-/390337595986
Edit, well maybe not there but there's a few listings on eBay
Edit..edit, woohoo!! It works!...
PePPeR it was bob on, the rear does kick up a tad though the way old fashioned saddles do.
Cheers Khani
I got my 7oz tub of U.S. amazon but that ebay one above is cheaper. You can only get the small tubes in the UK which are really expensive. Very good product, you have to heat the leather up so the sno seal is drawn deep into the leather. Only down side on this product is it turns the saddle very dark.