and to those that have, what did you do?
have to confess I asked the lbs to fit the tyres (as they were rebuilding the rims on to new hubs) but after an afternoon of trying they say they couldn’t get them to inflate, despite using a compressor, as the bead was too loose on the rim, a Specialized fatboy SL (rebadged DT BR710 iirc), as in the tyre would spin round the rim easily if you held the rim and pulled on the tyre.
So what gives? How did you do it? (They’ve set up loooads of tubeless tyres for me before, of all shapes and sizes, so I’m not questioning competence here)
have stuck tubes in for now, but keen to get rid as they are about a pound each. Not good for project fat ‘n’ light....
The SL isn't a rebadged 710 btw, but it's pretty similiar. I have the 710s though so it should work much the same. The 710 isn't actually tubeless ready- it nearly is, it has a tubeless bead but there was supposed to be a tubeless kit that'd make fitting easier, that was never released...
So, I use 2 things, sometimes 3. One, a bloody big compressor. 2, a load of reusable cable ties stretched right around the outside, which I tighten up bit by bit to keep the tyre shoved onto the rim. And 3, if that doesn't work (which it almost always has) I put a tube in then undo one side.
It's always a bit of a battle tbh but well worth it once its up
Like you got a shot to do mine after I had tapped my own rims using proper Gaffer gaffer tape (100mm cut down) and they went up ok.
Have had them off and on since and all good for me but did use a shedload of sealant for big tyres) 😉
Appreciate it doesn't help you but it possible, mine are currently on Mulefut 80SL but about to change across to something else soon so (if I can find the thread / history comes back) I will post here again if I have 'challenges'.
James
Tibe to seat tyre, pop one bead off, tube out, valve in, 26" normal inner tube tied tight around circumference, lay wheel horizontal so loose bead side is down & gravity helps.
Using the above I've done loads of 710s & 2250s with just a bonty flash charger
Had the same issue recently
Vaseline on the fattystripper rim and warm soapy water usually works but didn't. Inner tube got one bead on but not the other. Ended up with a tie down ratchet round the circumference held by hand (not ratcheted) and let it out as the air from the compressor comes in
1) fattystripper has been 100% successful for me
2) Plenty of Vaseline round the rim bead
3) down to garage down the street to use proper compressor (with smaller, 30L compressor, have had to use a ratchet strap around the tire too. But the garage compressor must be a bloody massive truck tire inflator, never needed anything else)
Job done, but just watch you don’t go over about 20psi or.....
Not had any issues with those tyres and a small compressor....
Used the tyre lever trick to pull the lubed tyre bead as far as possible on the rim
Removed the value core to flow more air quickerer
Added air and up she rises....
Minion 120 tpi FBF and FBR on ICAN carbon rims
I had this on my Dune. Note even a ratchet strap and 160 litre garage compressor would do it. Also tried a motocross bead seater which just blew the tyre straight off the rim. Gave up and put sealant in the tubes.
"grenosteve
I had this on my Dune. Note even a ratchet strap and 160 litre garage compressor would do it."
The Dune's rims are really not very tubelessy. It can be done but only with a fair amount of effort.
Fattystrippers on my 710's, soapy water and a compressor, went up easy.
Grenosteve, I used gorilla tape and tracker rods in my Dune.
Is it a minion fbf by any chance? Had the same issue with mine on the same Specialized rims, tried everything including fitting with a tube and only unseating one bead but the tyre just pulled away from the rim, ratchet strap and compressor had no effect. In the end I bought some thin laminate foam underlay from b&q to increase the rim diameter and this worked ok. The tyre was very loose for a tubeless ready version but weirdly the minion fbr I put on the rear went straight up no problem so might be a slightly different casing on the fbf. I was a bit worried it might burp at low pressures but it’s been fine down to 4psi in the snow although it’s usually around 7psi for trail use.