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[Closed] Internal Hose Guides - An Impossible Job?

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Good Day All

I have just started a rigid 29er build using a Orange Clockwork 109 frame, Genesis forks and a load of spare parts I had lying around. I've got as far as doing the internal cabling and discovered what seems to be an impossible task - fitting the plastic cable end caps into the frame!

Does anybody have any tips on the technique for fitting these? I have tried with and without cables, but it does not make much difference as they don't compress much. They are a semi-flexi hard rubber/plastic, so they flexi a little but not very much. I tried soaking in boiling water, but that didn't help. I have measured the plastic as 10x27mm which has to go into a 7.5x24.8mm hole so it's quite a bit of squeezing required!

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Cheers!


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 9:48 am
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Have to do them regularly, and it's a horrible job, but they are far more secure than the plastic jobbies they used before.ย  I usually insert one corner, and feed it in along it's length until it's almost fully in,then a very careful and controlled push downwards and inwards using a wide bladed flat screwdriver in the groove usually helps winkle them in. I accept no responsibility if you slip and damage your paintwork, or if you use too narrow a blade, and pucture the rubber ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 10:03 am
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Also, put some lube on them, reduces friction !


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 10:07 am
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Aha, I know these well having just built up a Stage 6 frame.

I followed the seller's advice and added a bit of light grease to the edges to get them in - and it worked for 3 out of 4, with a lot of struggling. The last one is still only 2/3rds in, but isn't likely to pop out soon - I gave up in exasperation.

Discussing with Orange's demo guy, he said the factory guys can do them in a jiffy and press in with a plastic tyre lever - Pedros-style working best.

It's still not worked on my awkward one, but might be worth a try before cracking the screwdriver out?


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 10:08 am
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Thank you good sirs, we have success! A good covering of wet chain lube around the frame hole and a plastic coated metal cored tyre lever worked reasonable well. I laid the bike on the floor to apply a lot of pressure without it moving around. Not sure the ends of my thumb are every going to be the same again!


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 11:34 am
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Get rid of them and use Sugrue?


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 11:37 am
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Is that a river outside your back door !!??


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 12:01 pm
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I love it when a plan comes together.


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 12:08 pm
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Thankfully just a patio! Optical illusion with the steamed up window.


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 12:10 pm
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Probably a bit late now but I'd have advised you to use some of this..

https://www.bikester.co.uk/capgo-ol-noise-protection-for-circuit-id-45mm-ad-9mm-2m-grey-652808.html

https://www.bikester.co.uk/capgo-ol-noise-protection-for-brake-id-55mm-ad-11mm-2m-grey-652811.html

prior to installation.


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 12:27 pm
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Aah, sweet little mini-insulation pipes for bike cables! Nice.


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 12:48 pm
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Next question, where did I put the silly little cable clamp from the bottom of my Command dropper post??? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!


 
Posted : 18/10/2018 1:24 pm