[Closed] Headset and shock bushing presses - any interest if i get some made up?

Ygm!

cool - need 9 more

YGM, sounds good.

Sounds interesting, any chance of pics/drawings?

only if you promise not to nick em!

Ha! I already have both tools but both have been knackered by mates borrowing them (you know who you are!) so replacements at this price would be great as long as they are a step up from the bolt and washer contraptions!

What size of bush are you making the tool for?

1/2" fox

planning on making/drawing up some presses for pivot bearings etc also

can i have one please.
pm you

all emails fielded, 5 down - 5 to go

Set for me please.

BTW, how competative would these be against a TF bushing press @ £20?

About 30% cheaper

I have a cyclus headset press which is fine, but I could do with a set of 1.5" adaptors to update it.

If you were doing just these adaptors then give me a shout please 😉

Adaptors for a cyclus headset press for push-fit bottom brackets please 🙂

Can you let me know the measurements of the stuff you require guys

YGM

1.5" adaptors for cyclus headset press too please and can you send pics of both tools thanks.

Adaptors for a cyclus headset press for push-fit bottom brackets please

Interest for these here also

I already sell these shock bushing tools on ebay, they fit perfectly into your pocket and are self aligning, so no faffing!!! and I sell them for £8.50 if you come direct.

As well as packs of 10x DP4 bushes for £10 direct

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FOX-SHOCK-BUSHING-TOOL-Fox-bush-tool-KaTec-bikes-/130522891945?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item1e63c546a9

How you doing cruzheckler 😀

Kaesae - not being rude but you stated when i asked about tools that your skills were not up to scratch yet.
Looking at your product - is teh larger part (RHS of picture) hollow?

😯

cruzheckler - Member
Kaesae - not being rude but you stated when i asked about tools that your skills were not up to scratch yet.
Looking at your product - is teh larger part (RHS of picture) hollow?

You were checking me out, so I put you off! fair is only fair after all 💡

I said I wouldn't be doing it on mass, but I am developing tools, since you seem to feel you are far more capable at doing it than I am, let's start a thread and see who comes up with the best idea's

My skills are sufficient to create these tools, nothing much to it, although designs will differ in effectiveness, my tools work great 😀

I learn quickly and I have a keen mind, I have sold 20+ of the tools so far and have 4 riders testing them on all of my friends shocks. 4x tools + 40+ bushes, not too much to invest in the development of the shock tools.

It's also good for the bike Karma which reduces crashes 8)

Since I haven't had any complaints yet and a lot of good feedback I think I can machine these up easily enough 😉

Truth be told I don't know how long it will take me to get used to the new tooling, so it's hard to say when I will be able to make other tools,

from your email /\ last sunday

cruzheckler - Member

Truth be told I don't know how long it will take me to get used to the new tooling, so it's hard to say when I will be able to make other tools,

from your email /\ last sunday

Aah, always good to have private emails even if they are only partial ones, included in threads.

So you have access to a lathe and other facilities and thought you would check me out, or is it simply because I couldn't do the tooling for you that you then decided to get access to said facilities!

BTW all - my presses and other tools will be manufatured using a CNC lathe so should be spot on measuremnt wise

OK then let's see what you intend to do for the bearing puller/press, I for one would like to see the design 😀

Bearing puller/press will work in the same manner as the shock bush press. Nothing complex.

When ordering the buyer will need to state the bearig size so that the appropriate "blank" can be included to ensure that the bearing is pulled/pressed by the outer edge of the race not the inner.

Not a chance i will show you drawings as you obviously have the time/machinery to make copies.

Oh and if i add smilies does it make this non confrontational?? 8)

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Anyway - back on topic everybody.

I will investigate the prospect of making a press/puller for the pivot bearings on my heckler. If you wouldlike something similar for pivot bearings on your bike also, please could you email me with:
[*]Bike make/model
bearing size
Any issues with getting into the bearings/space to work in
Photo of bearing site [/*]

timmys: Adaptors for a cyclus headset press for push-fit bottom brackets please

Can you let me know the measurements of the stuff you require guys

I'm going to post this on the thread instead of emailing you in the hope that some one can confirm the measurements!

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I don't have callipers to measure things accurately but maybe you have a cyclus press already you (or someone else) can take the measurements from?

A = diameter of cyclus headset press shaft, seems to be around 16mm measured with a ruler.
B = needs to be diameter of a Hollowtech II crank spindle which by googling seems to be 24mm. Maybe a tiny bit smaller than the nominal value though so the bearing slip on/off without any hassle?
C = Not crucial but the size of the largest diameter of the cyclus presses would be about right which seems to be ~32mm

[b]I'm really hoping someone can back me up with these details![/b]

You can email me at tscalesATmacDOTcom if need be.

that should be no problem what so ever

cruzheckler - Member
that should be no problem what so ever

Would you need a minimum number of people to commit before going ahead? What timescale are we talking about here days or weeks? I'd definitely have a pair in case that wasn't obvious!

weeks

why would you need a pair? surely 1 and the other side would be a blank plate?

cruzheckler when I said that I sold bushing tools and very kindly added a link 😉
you replied with kaesae not being rude but you stated when i asked about tools that your skills were not up to scratch yet.

Is that not confrontational ❓

This is a thread about tools and I am entitled to contribute to it 👿 👿 👿 am I not ❓

I wish you luck with your tools, I would have liked to have worked on developing them with you, since I already have several deisgns, but such is life.

I will look forward to seeing how well you do at it and as a sign of good will I will give you what ever dimensions you need from my cyclus headset press.

The other side of the press might not be sufficient in diameter to fit the bb cups without damaging them! you will need two and also for the headset press, as a 11/8th" will not fit!

With these kinds of tools you have two options, make the anchoring/stationary part of the tools larger than the diameter of the cups or make it the same shape as the cups so that it cannot damage them.

I have a cyclus headset press and a set of 1.5" / 11/8th" headtube adapter that I use with my cyclus headset press for 1.5" steerer tubes!

What dimensions do you need from the cyclus press?

A thread about tools - how ironic 😉

Kaesae i understand how they work mate, having used many varieties. I was suggesting that ...... oh forget it. Just check your email instead of trying (and failing) to be clever

why would you need a pair? surely 1 and the other side would be a blank plate?

With a pair the press would definitely be aligned centrally through the bottom bracket shell so the bottom bracket would definitely going in straight. That's how I see it anyway but I'm no engineer.

Talk about a thread hijack, some people can't leave it alone.

CH - YHM on the DU bushing tool and a 6800/6802 press.

Edit:

That's how I see it anyway but I'm no engineer.

Like that matters, still laugh when I think of those stiff Katec bearings that prevent suspension movement, that's an upgrade don't you know 😉

See what you mean Timmy, they are the same principle as the headset i suppose.
will see what can be done and get back to you later in the week (busy until Thursday now

cheers SV

I would be interetsted in a bearing press for an Intense will e-mail you later

No probs - just let e know dimensions required etc please

cruzheckler - Member
See what you mean Timmy, they are the same principle as the headset i suppose.

cheers SV, my true chum!!!

kaesae not being rude but **** off

Why would I go anywhere when it's so much fun watching you, not have a clue 💡 😀

Anyone can join a thread heckler and I'm interested to see how these tools of yours do in terms of effectiveness.

Considering you ride a single pivot and have already shown a lack of understanding about the press fit BB's, this should be quite amusing 😯

As for sending me personal emails and being a disrespectful little madam, that just makes it all the more fun.

You can have all the qualifications in the world but without hands on knowledge you still will not understand the problems involved in creating a tooling range!

For example ➡ a lot of the Intense frames have two bearings that sit or are housed inside the main frame, you cannot get into them with a basic bearing puller as the bearing opposite blocks access, there are a few ways to get them out, but using a cheap/cost effective puller/press will present certain difficulties.

How do you with all of your quals (qualifications) and a proper job as you mentioned in your email, intend to deal with these pivot bearings ❓

Lastly a mountainbike frame is more to me than just a lump of metal with holes in, that bearings fit into, as you so eloquently put it.

Just as a mountain bike is more than just a collection of parts, the more effectively the individual components work in unison, the better the bike rides and performs.

As you said it's not about black magic or wizardry, however there is an art to it and it does take skill and experience, it's why we have good mechanics 😀 and shite ones 😉 !

saucer of milk?

have already shown a lack of understanding

Kaesae it's not like you haven't ever been there eh? Like I mentioned above you previously claimed it best if the pivot bearings 'soaked up' some suspension movement, didnt you?

kaesae learn when to leave it. You joined STW in an eruption of vitriol after someone suggested your eclectic range of rough looking used frames on ebay looked suspicious, and some of the stuff you posted in reply made me think you genuinely have a personality disorder.

You've slowly built some goodwill here by sharing your enthusiasm for bearings, sorting people out with cheap/free kit to demo/test, all of which is sound business sense above and beyond possibly showing a positive trait to your character.

I read this thread as cruzheckler wanted to get some tools produced. He approached you privately and you said you couldnt help. He's gone elsewhere for the tooling and been successful. Youve then joined his thread to advertise your own tools which is bad form (I doubt the mods would let you as a trader start a thread advertising your tool or bearing range, but they accept guerilla marketing) and taken the opportunity to insult him and his product.

Compare that with Brant, Progressive Si, Mike @ Dialled etc all of whom either dont comment on competitor's bikes, or comment positively.

If you have any sense and can resist the obviously strong urge to react and argue, you should bow out of this thread now. I dont know cruzheckler from Adam and he doesnt need me to fight his fights but don't throw away all the goodwill youve worked for a year to build.

Munque-Chick

How dare you post such sensible advice! Do you know what forum you're using?

Cruz Heckler if you make your version of the press tool with a quick release threader then I'd buy the complete thing off you 😉

Something more like the Park professional version so you just click it on and then use the top thread to do the gentle part, would be great 😉

This is an image from Parks website, of course I wouldn't want you to plagiarise the whole idea though.

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There press contains all the bits needed to do the 1.5 cups and the bottom brackets that people need.

Munqe-chick - you are spot on with your assumptions, i wanted tools making, asked kaesae, he said he couldn't, a bloke off here sorted me. The more made, the cheaper they are obviously, so i slapped this thread up. captain bellend appears and says he can sell stuff and gets the hump when i politely tell him to **** off!

Pepper that is the idea that i wanted to sue for press fit bbs. Kaesae says its stupid, I must get off here quick and ring park tools because to deluded scotts ays it won't work!!

anyone else think this picture may be kaesae himself?

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Oh and Kaesae the reason i emailed you was so that you did not receive an internet pwning, but you will bring that on yourself with my help or not!

tbh I avoid kaesaes stuff on ebay because of how he is on here I would rather pay more than deal with you tbh.
I will send some pics of the frame/bearings later you can do a loss leader and i will test it for you 😉

lol - cheers junkyard

I see what you mean.

Except for the fact that I've already bought the equipment and started manufacturing the bushing tools.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/hi-stw-anyone-have-any-experience-with-metal-lathes-or-bench-saws#post-2616654

I also started working with riders on here to develop a press and puller tooling range for pivot points.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stumpjumper-bearings-when-to-replace#post-2629641

So an 💡 that I have already invested time, effort and resources in, what do you think STW should I simply walk away, or should I continue what I've been working on for over a month ❓

The bottom line is, I am developing these tools and I have been for quite some time.

Should I have joined this thread ❓ you can decide that for yourselves, I'm off back to work.

back to the buckfast Rab C!

anyone else think this picture may be kaesae himself?

Quite sad overall this thread.

Quirrel - i staretd this to see if i could help out and get some tools made cheaper as it would be a larger production run, this dickwad tried to then hijack it and sell his own. Not my fault an dto be honest i do not know why i ****ing bother!

Instead of sorting it out privately, the two of you aired your dirty washing for all to see.

Not exactly what most prospective customers want to see from a business, although it does appear to be the thing to do for small bike related business's on here.

I suggest you request a threadlock and let it vanish into obscurity.

i tried to sort it out via email but he could not do that so tried to discredit me on here, i tried to ignore but it got the better of me. Sorry for being human

What's up with a hammer and screwdriver

its a bit heath robinson for my liking if i am honest

Aye and someone will claim they invented both the hammer and screwdriver

**just an update**

I am still compiling a list of people who want what and will be getting this off the ground in a couple of weeks or so (snowed under at work/home at the moment)

are you doing an external BB bearing puller? (the cups not press fit)
Raceface did one a while back but wanted a small fortune for it and don't seem to be available anyway now.

Or does[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=53106&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=Google-Products-UK ] this one[/url] do the job? I know it does hope cups/bearings but does it do shimano cups too? I assume it trashes the bearing you take out? (just resting on the inner race)

I will ONLY be offering headset presses and shock bushing presses for fox shocks (or shocks with 1/2" bushes)

Nothing else at the moment, BETD do a bearing press/remover for external bbs with cups

How's the headset press coming along,are they in production yet.

Been busy with my proper job (know what one is kaesae) to sort anything out yet sorry

'Wear' was this 'Thread' (please stop) a couple of weeks ago? I've just experienced protracted headaches swapping my RM rear sus bushes and bearings.

Would defo place an order, would need 3 different sizes....actually just two as the BB pivot requires internal to external impact....nightmare without the correct tool.

I may be able to help out with these if you can tell me what you need.

Thanks for the mention Shmeckler and for motivating me to get my tooling range launched 😀

tooling range launched

😆

any chance of making a ifp tool for inflating talas forks

I would need to see the tool in question, but I think the CNC comapny could handle doing it!

kaesae - whats with being a cock again dude? Fair play you have got some tools made up, I on the other hand am happy, have a house in a tiny village in the peak district, a great partner, a fantastic daughter, and earn over £40k a year. I also actually ride my bikes quite a lot, ergo i win!

Note - no smiley

Phew!

I'm still really interested in bearing/bushing (pullers/pushers). The design I was impressed with was made by Transition Bikes, so simple.
I'll post up photos and dimensions soon, or email them to you…..if I post them up then the world can follow the design and drool over the ‘fin’ products.

Frustratingly, RM decided to use 3 different bearing sizes on their 05 bike, then there's the Fox bushes to push in/out!
All in all, a rather expensive ‘pulling fest' indeed!

I on the other hand am happy, have a house in a tiny village in the peak district, a great partner, a fantastic daughter, and earn over £40k a year. I also actually ride my bikes quite a lot, ergo i win!

i know