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I mean for when it gets really cold, and wet. Not looking for mid weather gloves. No autumn or early winter gloves. Not Aldi gloves, or any other mediocre product. But the real deal. Proper sleet and snow gloves that leave your hands toasty in the worst the hills have to offer.

Currently using some DHB winter gloves. Occasionally Aldi winter Gloves. And sometimes some sealskinz winter lobster gloves. None are waterproof. The sealskinz are really bulky, which I don't mind so much, but the inner slides around inside the outer making them a pain to use.

Don't really want to keep throwing money at more of the same. So has anyone found anything that just works?


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 8:59 pm
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Glacier Perfect Curves


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 9:01 pm
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Definitely not Endura Strikes. On a blowy 5 deg c day i could feel the chill through them.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 9:05 pm
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So has anyone found anything that just works

Don't just focus on the gloves, keep your body and head warm. So you don't start diverting heat away from the hands and feet to maintain the temperature of your core and vital bits when it gets really cold.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 9:06 pm
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What bregante says, awesome gloves and last years, as few days are cold enough for them.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 9:07 pm
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marmot on piste gloves.

any cycling gloves are a waste of time in comparison.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 9:10 pm
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Are the Glacier Perfect Curves breathable or does sweat build up leading to wet cold hands?


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 10:34 pm
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Not breathable at all. Anything above freezing point then your hands will be too warm and sweaty. Wet-yes. Cold-never.

They're for properly properly cold days only.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 10:40 pm
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Cheers for that.


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 11:01 pm
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Pogies


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 11:05 pm
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Glacier gloves here as well. Great for really cold, wet days. Never had cold hands in mine, even when you get a bit sweaty on long climbs!


 
Posted : 16/11/2016 11:12 pm
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Specialised sub zero.
Not sure what the latest design is like, but mine are a fleece liner and waterproof shell which can be used in any combination. Perfect.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:16 am
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Another vote for Pogies - I was riding bare-handed in the Finnish Arctic last winter in a blizzard. If you want mega-gloves, look at 45Nrth Sturmfist.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:23 am
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I had a pair of Marmot XT gloves which I used for mountaineering/ice climbing. Lasted through years of abuse but finally got relegated to general work gloves.
They arent bulky, they have a really grippy leather palm and I never had cold hands. They would probably be perfect for the bike. In fact i've just talked myself into buying another pair!


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:30 am
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🙂

You can't beat a warm muff...

Thank you

http://www.quadbikeswales.co.uk/oxford-motorcycle-handle-bar-mitts-muffs-gloves-quad.html


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:37 am
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+1 for Glacier Gloves. Silk liners stop them getting too sweaty but they are for sub zero only or I find my wrist get so warm they itch. Had thought of cutting them down a bit!.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:44 am
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Always found the Gore Countdown to be good (now called the [url= http://www.goreapparel.co.uk/gore-bike-wear/men/gloves/universal-gore-tex-thermo-gloves/GCOUNW.html?cgid=gbw-men-geartype-gloves&prefn1=ingredientCategory&prefn2=parentActivityType&navid=search&start=1&prefv1=GORE-TEX%C2%AE%20Products&prefv2=Mountain%20Biking&dwvar_GCOUNW_color=9900 ]Universal[/url]). Made of Goretex so waterproof and breathable and last for two or three winters.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 8:50 am
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Think I'll give some of these Perfect Curves a try then as suffer badly with cold painful hands even in current Midlands temperatures on both road and mtb rides. Am sure it's a circulation issue too but am willing to try these if they are well recommended for even the coldest days


 
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Posted : 19/11/2016 8:59 pm
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I know these might look slightly ridiculous but for the folks riding regularly in minus degrees something like this might be worth thinking about: http://www.boatworld.co.uk/xcite-atv-quad-hand-mitts?gclid=CPDTxu_jtdACFdMV0wodG3EBCw


 
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Only slightly ridiculous?


 
Posted : 19/11/2016 9:45 pm
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Endura Dexter with rooster hot hand liners worked well for me not bad considering my phone and compact camera switched off from from the cold.


 
Posted : 19/11/2016 9:55 pm
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How can it get really cold and wet? Or does the OP live on a moon of Saturn?


 
Posted : 19/11/2016 9:59 pm
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I got the glacier gloves and I don't think they are all that. I still get numb fingertips and they are a right pain in the hoop to get on and off especially when you are cold and wet.
Pogies are the thing, warm and comfy and you still have your dexterity. Not even expensive.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 12:38 am
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Look after your core, I wear thin cotton M&S socks and don't have issues there due to wearing 2xIcebreaker merino tops under a waterproof etc. I do get a 'nip' on the small/last finger of each hand though as I haven't found a windproof/properly stitched finger/glove yet


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 12:59 am
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Pogies

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Posted : 20/11/2016 1:37 am
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Following.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 8:01 am
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I find that any glove with an insulating material between the inner and outer squirms irritatingly when I'm on the hoods as the insulation allows movement between inner and outer; I also find them too hot and sweaty. I use a cheap, simple Madison Windshell glove and this is adequate down to 2c and completely firm in gripping and gear shifting. After a few minutes the hands warm up anyway.

It's the perfect winter glove for me but I don't think you can buy them any more:

http://www.woollyhatshop.com/madison/madison-windshell-black-reflex-flash-cycling-gloves-in-x-large?limit=75


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 8:14 am
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I use a windproof waterproof outer with a liner. But second (or third) the point that you need to keep the core warm first and not just that - you also need to insulate the wrists*. No point having a warm core and good gloves if you have a heat exchanger zone between the two. Make sure wrists are properly covered and if proper cold I have some old ski socks that I've taken the feet off and use as arm warmers under my outerwear so you don't have that cold bit of wrist.

* ankles too. But don't wear gloves on your feet.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 8:24 am
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iSpecialised sub zero.
Not sure what the latest design is like, but mine are a fleece liner and waterproof shell which can be used in any combination. Perfect.

Not my experience with sub zeros as they are not in the slightest bit waterproof. How can they be, they have no waterproof membrane and are not seam sealed. They are warm though.

Best combination for cold and wet, as in heavy rain, is aldi winter gloves and extremities tuff bags.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 8:29 am
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Specialised sub zero for me. Worn them in all sorts of weather and always been happy with them.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 3:40 pm
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I've got a pair of Giro Pivots that are fine. If it's too cold for them I probably won't be out as I have Teh Fear when it comes to riding when it's icy.


 
Posted : 20/11/2016 4:21 pm
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Bumpity bump. On reflection could maybe do with some new ones.

Are gloves with a separate shell and liner overkill for U.K. conditions? If not, what's recommended?


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 8:19 am
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Looks like the Aldi Lobsters are going to get a stern test in the coming days, -4C expected on some Southampton mornings! 😯


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 10:38 am
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link for pogies?


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 10:49 am
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At the back of a cupboard I found climbing mittens hidden away, ones I'd bought in the seventies. Being troubled by circulation problems I tried them. I can suggest Helly Hansen Polar Mitts, and North Cape outer mittens. Combined with modern Nikwax washing and proofing stuff, with a new pair of liners, they were superb riding in falling wet snow.

I haven't seen a modern equivalent, you'll need a time machine.


 
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[url= http://www.hotpog.co.uk/ ]link[/url]

The basic are all you need unless you are God knows where


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 11:07 am
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Another for Glacier Gloves, if you don't want pogies they're awesome. But, with a couple of caveats. They're completely unbrethable so they do get damp if you sweat (no biggy, because you're still warm, but it's a little unpleasant sometimes and can make them sticky). And they get a bit fetid after a few rides like this, and take a while to dry if you wash them. Also, no snot wipes or anything.

Main thing is the feel- it's exactly like wearing foam grips on your fingers. This can be a wee bit tiring as you're fighting squish, and can be a wee bit vague. It's not like big chunky traditional winter gloves or motorbike gloves, where you can barely tell you're holding onto the bars, it's just that you've got a definite squishy layer between you and the bars and levers. So it's not lack of feel, it's just weird feel.

I have bad circulation so anything that keeps me warm sub-zero is doing damn well, no bike gloves I've tried do. Fox Antifreeze kept me functioning but not comfortable.


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 2:14 pm
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Anyone considering buying a thinnish liner glove or something for days like today (3-5c where I am) - should take a look at the Rooster Hot Hands neoprene sailing gloves. Again because they're neoprene they're not breathable but they're not as full on as the Glaciers so can be worn on their own on days when it's above freezing (when the Glaciers are just too hot!)

I bought a pair of these a few weeks back at the same time as buying their HotSocks (which are fantastic btw) and I've worn them for the first time today. Really nice close fitting gloves and not so thick that they limit your dexterity. I wore them on their own today for a few hours on the road bike and my hands were toasty. Worth a look.

[url= https://www.roostersailing.com/pd/Hands-and-Feet-Bundle_105373.htm ]link to hands and feet bundle[/url]


 
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Those hothands/hotsocks look interesting, cheers! Am I right to say they're not waterproof?

(I really like their vids on the website! Very honest about shortcomings and limitations, that's ace)


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 3:13 pm
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tbh I'm not sure. They're certainly not breathable so I sort of assumed they were waterproof but I'm not really bothered either way tbh


 
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I wore my new Galibier Barrier 3 gloves this weekend. Very good.

http://galibier.cc/product/barrier-ii-winter-glove/


 
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For a long time I used standard fingerless cycling mitts with Buffalo DP mitts over the top in really cold and/or wet conditions. I sometimes still do. The latter pack away small if you don't need them later in the day. Not as clumsy/slippy as you might think, but I did contact Buffalo asking if they'd make a lobster claw version. They weren't interested.

I'm currently using the Planet X crab claw things - fine so far, but similar caveats to above re: drying out, getting a bit of a pong on, etc.


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 4:42 pm
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I've just bought some Fox forge gloves a week or so ago. In the extreme rain earlier this week, they wetted through pretty quickly which was disappointing but they were very warm throughout. I wore them for a sub-zero MTB ride this weekend and they were too warm - I took them off. They're also a tiiiny bit bulkier than I am comfortable with so I'll reserve them for when it's extremely cold, and for road miles/commuting.

Clearly they're not perfect, but I'm pretty happy with them so far. I reckon they'll be just the thing for when it snows.


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 5:03 pm
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I've been using Mavic Inferno's for a couple of years now, trouble is, it has to be close to zero and below for me to wear them or my hands get too hot.


 
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My hands get to hot in anything other than a 3 season glove. If it was to cold for them I wouldn't go out 🙁


 
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Gill 3mm neoprene sailing gloves.

Not fully tested them yet, but 1st impressions seem good.

£12 on ebay ... so worth a punt.


 
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Hey Dibbs - you got deep pockets?

Those inferno's are £62!

They sound good though. One mag reviewer said they are just too warm above 7°


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 6:05 pm
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Dachstein's


 
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Those inferno's are £62!

I don't remember paying that much. 😳


 
Posted : 27/11/2016 7:22 pm
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How can it get really cold and wet? Or does the OP live on a moon of Saturn?

To be honest, I don't think you can really quantify it just in temperatures.

For example, you can go out in sub zero-conditions, mild day, sun out, and have toasty hands all day. Then you can go out in +5 celcius, driving wind and rain, and stone cold hands - having to remove gloves every 5 mins just to warm your hands up! I often find it is the days near freezing that are the worst. Not the ones below.

Same goes for the type of riding you do. An hours MTB ride around the woods is nothing like a ride high up in the open hills, where something as little as a change in direction can change your condition from toasty to icy within seconds.

And on those points, it's difficult to interpret reviews, because actual temperatures mean very little. It's like measuring your fitness based on average speed, knowing nothing about terrain.

My own biggest problem with gloves appears to be waterproofing. My hands mostly get cold once wet, and also with wind chill. And I'm yet to find a glove that is actually waterproof like it claims to be, especially around the palms. A showerproof glove is fine for an hour, but not an all-dayer in torrential rain.

Thanks for the suggestions so far btw. Still completely undecided and not yet convinced by neoprene gloves.


 
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Its wet + windchill thats bad.

I wear neoprene sailing / surfing gloves in these conditions. For all others I have the aldi gloves.

wet neoprene is OK for an hour or so but you end up with wrinkly fingers much longer.

Whatever you do, do not take neoprene gloves off when out. They don't warm back up easily.

If you have to put them on wet, run them under the hot tap first.


 
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How can it get really cold and wet? Or does the OP live on a moon of Saturn?

I gather it touched -6 during the Kinlochleven enduro, we were surrounded by snow and ice but everyone got wet too- running water etc. They're not exclusive especially with height change.


 
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3mm neoprene kayak gloves are good if cold and wet. Winter climbing presents cold/wet conditions and I just take 2-3 pairs of gloves. Biking, I use a thin inner with ski gloves. I think NI Issue leather gore text gloves would be good. Warm, dry and dextrous.

I have the North Cape mitts with pile inners as mentioned previously.


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 8:06 pm
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I suffer terribly from cold hands and feet, and these are the only gloves I've so far tried that I've yet to go numb in. Admittedly not sure I've yet tried them in torrential rain, but certainly they've out-performed everything else in the cold.

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If you use thumbies or bar-ends, fleece lined mountaineering mittens. The lobster mitts look like a close second. 🙂


 
Posted : 29/11/2016 11:15 pm
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Last night as an experiment I tried wearing two pairs of defeet Dura gloves. Worked so well I was kicking myself for not trying it before. All I need now is a waterproof shell and I can ditch my Sealskinz.


 
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Bez what model are they can't find them anywhere


 
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I used all kinds of gloves for decades until given some pogies for xmas which were a revelation. No more wet gloves, hot gloves, fiddly gloves, no peeling off gloves to operate stuff or pick up stuff. No more dull 'vanilla' braking or shifting with fat condoms on yr fingers!. Now it's pogies all the way. These are rain-proof and toasty ('Cyglove' brand) and I wish they fitted my drops.

Wait, you cycle in the winter for style and fashion purposes? Forget pogies!

*Edit - it seems that bar-mitts are available for drops - (as long as you typical ride on the hoods as there'd seemingly be no fast transitions to the brakes from the drops!). [url] https://www.adventurecycling.org/cyclosource-store/apparel/sp/bar-mitts-pogies/ [/url]


 
Posted : 30/11/2016 9:06 am
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Bez what model are they can't find them anywhere

They're the Northwave Husky Lobster, although from a quick google it looks like they might only come as a 2+2 these days, which seems a bit silly. The 3+1 arrangement works really well.


 
Posted : 30/11/2016 10:47 pm