As all forum members bar Stevie Wonder and David Blunkett have seen i am after a 140-120mm travel adjust fork.
JE James have the Revelation U Turn which i am familiar with for £370 and the Fox Talas RLC for £440
Are the talas worth £80 more?
are they ok to be "wound down" to 120mm and left there for all but down hills?
Which would you choose and why?
WMB/ MBUK are saying the new Revs are better.
My experience of old Rev U turns vs Fox 32 Talas...........
The revs were stiffer in Q/R form but the suspension action was way inferior.
The Fox in 15QR (thru axle) was way superior... all round.
the revs i am talking about are the "pike lite" 2009 version
WMB/ MBUK are saying the new Revs are better.
My experience of old Rev U turns vs Fox 32 Talas...........
The revs were stiffer in Q/R form but the suspension action was way inferior.
The Fox in 15QR (thru axle) was way superior... all round.
any one else?
Before i click buy - has anyone any positives or negatives about TALAS or Uturn that i may not have considered?
Is teh bombproof Rev with worse damping a better choice than the brillaintly damped TALAS? Is the TALAS temperamental?
What are your hubs?
No experience of either, but the fact the Fox is 15QR and the Rock Shox is QR would be the deal clincher for me. I really like the 15QR system, but if you haven't got 15QR hubs, its may mean extra expense to change.
I've recently had coil Pikes and air revs, and Vanillas and Floats. No air turn on the air forks though.
The damping on the Fox forks is significantly better than the Rockshox. And I was lucky enough to find both sets of foxes way cheaper than any current rockshox forks. I've worn out fox forks in the past, but I've not found rockshox to be any more reliable at all. (I'm now embarking on a new really-look-after-new-forks maintainence routine!)
Andi - hubs are pro2s (have the qr15 and 20mm adapters)
The revs are 20mm maxle and the talas qr15
in a straight choice between QR and 15 (or 20) I'd take the bolt through option for stiffness
TALAS travel adjust is easier to use than Uturn. Not that U-turn is hard but it's several turns to wind the travel out, rather than 90 deg or so for the TALAS
I've just swapped from (20mm thro) '08 426 pike to (15mm thro) '10 32 TALAS. Stiffness of the TALAS is good. Damping is at least as good, but I've not really pushed it yet.
iirc, the 09 revs basically weighed the same as 08 Pike airs. if I' right about that then the 32 TALAS will likely be half a kilo lighter then the revs (my new TALAS is 700g lighter tan the pike it replaces 😯 ) you can argue about weight savings asmuch as you want but 500+g is a pretty big poo.
if I had the cash, I'd go with the TALAS.
Just to reiterate - QR is a no no.
[b]I have pro2s and am looking at MAXLE or QR15[/b]
iirc, the 09 revs basically weighed the same as 08 Pike airs
I thought revs had the hollow crown?
Revs have the crown from old revs and the pike lowers and are 1/2lb lighter iirc
I had the same 09 Talas from JE James a couple of weeks ago, £440 seemed too good to ignore. It was that or get my RS rev u-turns with maxle lite serviced. I figured the 'upgrade' wouldn't cost me much, by the time I'd flogged the revs, compared to the money I would have spent servicing them.
Like someone else says, the winding in and out on the u-turn isn't as good as the talas lever. It's hard to wind out on the fly and you try and set it at a compromise length so you don't have to faff with it so much.
Also, and a lot of people have reported the same, the u-turns leak oil from that leg when inverted. Not that I store upside down, only once did it for a couple of hours in back of a van to get to Brechfa and some oil had leaked. They also do it now when flat on their side in the back of my car (but don't leak in use). To be fair, Fisher said it was a known problem, they'd swap the seals for better ones under warranty, although I didn't bother as they worked okay but reckon they need servicing now.
Can't tell you how Talas compare though, not fitted em yet. Bit nervous of the Fox stanchion wear some rattle on about but had em before without problems so we'll see.
Oh, and they came next day from JE James, think they've had bad press on here for not sending stuff out quickly. Although I paid £5 for priority despatch, didn't seem much on top of the value of the forks.
As all forum members bar Stevie Wonder and David Blunkett have seen
Stevie Wonder is a member? Wow!
Which je james had em in? erring on the talas now as they look the same as my F120s and my GF wouldn't notice 😉 with some luck.
Are the talas ok to keep at 120mm and only open them out to 140 for down hills or will they bugger up?
what is the jejames stw email addy?
I rang the mail order number, which I think was the same as one of the shops. I didn't want to order online as I thought I'd heard it was one of those online retailers that shows stuff as being in stock but really it's not and you wait ages for it. The guy confirmed they had some in his shop and he said more than 20 in their warehouse.
I'd have gone for Talas originally for the better travel adjust (also goes down to 100 as well as being easier to use) but couldn't justify the price difference. Don't think I've seen them anywhere near the £400 mark before. Why should using them mostly at 120 cause problems?
don't know - nagging worry 😉
TFTuned have allayed that fear - running at 120mm is cool and popping up to 140mm on the downs is good 🙂
TALAS here i come (hopefully)
Is it true that the Talas models suffer from stiction compared to Revs or Floats due to the extra gubbins inside?
Andi - hubs are pro2s (have the qr15 and 20mm adapters)
The revs are 20mm maxle and the talas qr15
[url= http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/rockshox-revelation-426-air-u-turn0-140-mc-id45539.html ]These ones?[/url]
The picture shows maxle, but the description says..
Quick release only (not maxle).
the revs are the wrong ones i have since realised. They ahve them at teh bikeoutlet york iirc for £370
The TALAS forks can get sticky and do need servicing to keep the travel adjust running sweet (which is a bit of a pain). That said i love my TALAS fork, the ease of adjustment on the fly is excellent, can't quite see the point of the U-turns if you have to stop to make adjustments.
As you've discovered you can leave them in any setting for as long as you want. My bike is really designed around a 120mm fork but I leave them at 140mm most of the time dropping then to 120mm for up and down trail centre stuff and 100mm for climbing. Defnitiely go FOx (and use TFTuned for servicing once out of warranty, did an excellent quick job on my TALAS forks a few months ago).