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They look beefy, matching Richie Rude's arms.
https://brink.uk/fox-38-float-factory-grip2-29-2021
£1299
Coming to some trails round the back of Nationwide soon?
I'm gonna hold out for the new Totem.
(I'm not really)
Do any of these changes apply to the 36 as well?
Yep, looks like the 2021 36 is getting redesigned lowers, the bleed ports, vvc on the compression circuit, and the floating axle.
https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=36
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Same hideous orange and gold colour combo though.
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How about 'root beer'?
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Gloss black also available.
Urgh, they put the minging arch on the 36 too.
Oooh, dam.
Just when I thought I owned the best forks money can buy, they go and make a better version.
This is how the world will end, we will be fooled by marketing to keep the ecomony growing and die from climate change as a result.
Or, I could buy them, fool myself that they make me a better rider and die from old age before I die form climate change.
How about ‘root beer’?
Actually yeah, that's got a nice '70s vibe.
Now where did I leave that £1,300?
I like the arch, it's grown on me. In that I have fallen for the marketing.
Ironically we will see the 2022 version when the EWS kicks off again.
Keep yer eyes peeled for 2020 fox 36 sales.
Onzadog
Keep yer eyes peeled for 2020 fox 36 sales.
They've been going for a while already, plenty 36s about with ~450 Euro off
bought a new set of fox 36 factorys last month, not amused 🙁
Finally somebody thought to put bleed valves in. No more messing about with zip ties to get rid of excess pressure in the lowers. I dare say they weren’t the first, but all forks should have then I’m my opinion.
Can anyone explain how the excess air get in, in the first place. How if it squeezes past the seals can it not squeeze back out then ?
My ribbon coils have the air bleed ports. Apparently its more for equilization after flying with the bike.
the 29er is 400g heavier than the mezzer for not much difference in stiffness. The 35mm lyric is only about 8% less stiff torsionally than the 38mm fox.
Surprised they haven't moved to twin positive chambers.
I thnk those root beer ones woud look good on this leather and gold vibe
for about 6 months until it dated and looked cheesy
Have we seen any Grip2 dampers on sale cheap?
The root beer would love lovely in my green frame. Makes me think of chocolate limes
Can anyone explain how the excess air get in, in the first place. How if it squeezes past the seals can it not squeeze back out then ?
The video and text on the front page explain it's due to changes in atmospheric pressure - if you take your bike from the bottom of the valley to the top of a high mountain the air pressure outside the fork is lower than inside. Effectively the inside of the fork is pressurised.
Effectively the inside of the fork is pressurised.
Surely then your fork would be under-sprung by the end of the run?
I thought they used to be because the damping oil had a tendency to evaporate as it got warm increasing the pressure.
Surely then your fork would be under-sprung by the end of the run?
It's not the air spring that your equalising = - just the unpressurised parts of the fork. I *think* the impact of these being slight above outside pressure is to make the dust seals tight and stiction high.
The pistachio coloured 38 would go bloomin lovely with the forbidden druid:
Or the YT jeffsy minty green:
bought a new set of fox 36 factorys last month, not amused 🙁
Indeed, ordered a set with a frame in Jan that hasn’t arrived yet. Ah well, they’re still great forks.
Would you guys really want this fork on a 130mm or 140mm travel trail bike?
Not the 38, but the 36 which has the same internals IIRC
Ah right, ISWYM.
Tallpaul wants to put one on a Forbidden Druid though.
Tom, did I see on an earlier thread that you bought a Deviate Highlander. I'm waiting on a blue medium right now. Had a test with Ben and was totally blown away by the bike. Found a set of 150mm Ribbon Coils for £705 from crc. By far the best fork I've ever owned.
And talk to your supplier Tom, I'm sure your order could be amended.
Can anyone explain how the excess air get in, in the first place. How if it squeezes past the seals can it not squeeze back out then ?
No, I wish I could as it does my head in. Every fork I've owned (Fox and Rockshox) has got progressively stiffer over time, until I release the trapped air. I've done numerous seal changes, tried varying grease levels (from thin film to slather it on) and they all seem to do it. Maybe it's something to do with the Scottish air. But it seems such an obvious thing to do, to put a little valve on the back that you can press to remove any excess pressure in the lowers.
And talk to your supplier Tom, I’m sure your order could be amended.
Am doing now, it was due for delivery in a couple of weeks, so might have already been ordered in.
@mactheknife, yeah a highlander. Same for me, but I already had a hunch I would from the Guide.
Nice one, I tried the guide but just couldn't get on with the grip shift.
Enjoy.
Neither could I, swapped the cinq triggers 😊
Apologies for the derailment, but deviate are very good eggs, they’ve change the order to 2021 forks and shocks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Have to wait a bit longer, but that’s not exactly the end of the world...
Back on topic, Looks like the 36, 38 and 40 are now able to take (and are presumably warrantied for) 230mm brake rotors, IIRC previous gens have only been 203mm.
£1300!!!!! **** off
I agree a 150mm fox 38 would be a bit overkill on a 130mm rear travel bike, but hey the colours match!!
The article mentions a new 1.8 headset standard - that this fork does not use. I have not heard of this before...? Have I been under a rock - or is this news to many people...?
is this news to many people…?
I was vaguely aware that Suntour were talking about it at a couple of shows a year or 2 ago, but not heard anything for a while. Mainly for ebikes i think.
edit, thanks to google
I’m gonna hold out for the new Totem
You mean the Zeb?
So where can I find the cheapest
Fox 36 29er 150mm 44mm offset fork
Will see these around Glentress soon enough.
Special purpose I get it.
So where can I find the cheapest
The disti may have a fair few unsold 2020 ones that tarts like me no longer want, give it a few weeks and prices for 2020 ones should drop a bit, or someone will have a clearance sale.
You mean the Zeb?
I was half joking, have only read vague hints about such a thing on the internet.
Do go on though...
So as far as I can see, 2021 36 only goes up to 160mm. If you want above that it is 38 only. Creaky CSU remedy?
https://brink.uk/fox-36-factory-grip2-29-2020
Brink will travel change the forks they have in stock to whatever travel you like
Ooh, just a thought, there's been no mention of Live Valve around any of these new forks/shocks has there? Has Fox finally given up on it (5 years too late)?
Maybe live valve will reappear as what it should have been rather than an electronic lock out. Or Fox just realised there was a better way to hike the price without all the unnecessary expense, i mean it’s two better than a 36 isn’t it😀
The 36
When does it become an all-new fork? The 36 gets new lowers and four damper options, including an updated version of the GRIP2 unit employing their Variable Valve Control compression system. There's also the FIT4 damper that offers on-the-fly, three-mode adjustment, or technophiles can get excited about the model equipped with Fox's terrain-reading Live Valve system. And with the burlier 38 being added to the lineup for 2021 and offering 160mm to 180mm, Fox has focused the 36 down to offer either 150mm or 160mm of travel.
From:
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-fox-36-38-40-pond-beaver-2020.html
Is it just me or is this fork the solution to a problem only ever experienced by Richie Rude. I suspect the 36 is a better fork for all other humans.
@bella you can say that about pretty much every component and indeed bike
Personally I think the arch is a big improvement, reminds me of the marzocchi 350 which was solid and stiff, those channels are genius but the pistachio option has me confused, do I love it or hate it.
Apparently the RS totem is coming back, but how do Rockshox beat Fox this time.
Thirteen-hundred quid though. Seriously Fox, have a f***** word with yourselves, eh?
Apparently the RS totem is coming back, but how do Rockshox beat Fox this time.
By being much more affordable when discounted and riding really well.
Thirteen-hundred quid though. Seriously Fox, have a f***** word with yourselves, eh?
Yeah, they barely made the podium of the ‘most expensive single crown fork’ championship
Must try harder...
Seems strange they stuck with a 15mm axle on a 180mm fork instead of upping it to 20mm.
Could have been 7 better.
What a waste.
Seems strange they stuck with a 15mm axle on a 180mm fork instead of upping it to 20mm.
Could have been 7 better.
Would have only been 5 better, to be fair.
I always thought we should have stayed with 20mm for all forks, but TBH going back now would be a nuisance in terms of sharing wheels between bikes.
mad to buy one of these over a lyric or mezzer.
For what should be a fairly limited market, I’m expecting to see bucket loads of these, ridden slowly on suitable mince tanks around the Surrey Hills, probably with some solid village store/pub chat about how sendy they were on that particular ride 🙂
I won’t be buying, not that I have a suitable bike for a fork that chunky anyway...
Have just been reading the Fox AMA on Pinkbike, and they have hinted that some Fox 34 news, specifically about the Grip2 damper, may be coming very soon.
All this free time in lockdown has got me virtually speccing my next bike, Marzocchi Z2's with the Grip2 damper would be niiiice.
So yep, WC has the fox 34 grip 2 VVC listed with the new 2021 graphics.
And there's an updated fox transfer coming with a shorter head and stack height, and insertion length. No 200mm version though, it seems.
Got some Factory 36 Orange 29er brand new boxed never even installed.... slide into my DM’s if you fancy a chat @Theghost
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