[Closed] Fatbikes

"Travers Bat Bastard with Lauf Carbonara forks 2015, the best all round Fat Bike great on trail, beach and long distance."

I suppose you have to say that though or you wouldnt be a very good brand ambassador.

Woke up thinking about Fat's. A sure sign that I will buy one.

Has anyone done a 'list' of Fats?

I wanna festidiously compare until I can convince myself which one is right for me.

I half expected to have pulled the trigger on a Fatty by now, but my steel 29er running a b+/29+ combo is spot on. A little part of me wonders what/if I'm missing out on though...

I have 2 and maybe one more on the way....
My Purple Pugsley has been making me smile for 5 years and I couldn't resist building a fixed long distance off road tourer.....
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/151842789644

Talk to me about this frame and its geo

Does anyone know the weight of a trek Farley carbon yet? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

I'm still very fat "curious" and nearly bought a Dune. I held fire as I thought they may be a tad small and when I finally got a reply from Go Outdoors (nearly 2 weeks) they confirmed my fears. If anyone wants the 'official' measurements I can copy them over from the email they sent.

I'll confess to having a stumbling block mentally when thinking about buying from OO but love the look of the Fatty.

Has anyone here actually owned a Fat Bike Tandem yet...I'd be interested in knowing if they are actually rideable?
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fd3chris - Member
Does anyone know the weight of a trek Farley carbon yet? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

It you are worrying about the weight of a Fat Bike you won't enjoy it long term, it's not about saving a pound or two it's about the fun factor

Normal Man - Member
I'll confess to having a stumbling block mentally when thinking about buying from OO but love the look of the Fatty.

Why? The on One Fatty is a fantastic trail fun fat bike and now the new On One "Trail" has Bluto's fitted so you can't go wrong at their prices.

Just based around some issues a friend had with OO. Plus bits I've read on here if being honest.

slimjim78 - Member

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/151842789644

Talk to me about this frame and its geo

Not a tapered head tube and standard QR's on the back so not that future proof if you need to upgrade later on.

He means "it's an on-one"

A bit like "it's a ford" etc

I see where he's coming from, but the Fatty does indeed look the bees knees. Worth a punt surely?

Can anyone tell me the real differences between the fatty and the trail?

Oh yeah, am I right in thinking the trail version was offered at £999 not too far back?..

Normal Man - Member
Just based around some issues a friend had with OO. Plus bits I've read on here if being honest.

The problem is that you hear about the problems because of social media and forums like this, but you don't hear about all the good stuff.
I've had 5 bikes and loads of gear off them, I've never been a problem either collecting or delivering.

slimjim78 - Member

He means like a Ford

Can anyone tell me the real differences between the fatty and the trail?

Oh I see ref the Ford

The Fatty is very Trail orientated but it was built around rigid forks, the Trail is built around Bluto's.
So if you want to take the sting out of rough trials go for the trail, if you ride smooth trail centres got for the Fatty

No help on choosing a FatBike but stumbled on this Vid today

Fair comment JohnClimber.

I'm tempted, I really am. Helps I love the colour orange and have white pedals and a white/orange charge spoon sitting in my parts bin!

Nice vid. I can see a huge benefit for those gloopy winter rides. I've cursed those trails that suddenly turn into bog fests.

Think I'm gonna rinse my credit card. Guys, Fatty or Trail? Discuss

Just to add my 2 pence worth. I recently took the plunge and got a 2015 Rocky Mountain Blizzard with Blutos for a great price as the new one was coming out. My main bikes are very much XC focused coming in around 19lbs and 20lbs respectively. Like many I was concerned what a 30lbs+ monster with huge tyres was going to be like in comparison. And the answer is bloody fantastic. To be honest I don't notice the extra weight half as much as I thought. I'm running fairly high pressures at the moment and the drag isn't that bad either. I can still out climb most of my mates, when you ride through a big puddle the spray is like the log flume at Thorpe Park, and according to the local yoof my bike is 'sick'. Therefore whats not to like !.

I run my fatty ( Rose Tusker1) on less than 15psi....last ride I did with it...down some -9% trails ....it soaked up all the bumps/roots etc
Last ride I had that did that was my old Whyte 46 freerider

slimjim78 - Member

He means "it's an on-one"

A bit like "it's a ford" etc

Not so much, it's more "Don't buy an On One, they're known thieves". Once you take away all the wee downsides, like no real customer service, no reliable parts support and no dependable warranty things look a lot less like good value.

I was being kind - I've had issues with them myself

That video trout posted is the answer to some in this thread..
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Those who said they would buy a cheapish HT would be better buying a fatbike..

have white pedals and a white/orange charge spoon sitting in my parts bin!

I've built bikes based on having a lot less component stock than that before. 😀

The way I see it, with you having these parts already, its fate & you shouldn't mess with it.

I'm consistently running at 6.5 psi, without issues even in rock gardens.

Not so much, it's more "Don't buy an On One, they're known thieves". Once you take away all the wee downsides, like no real customer service, no reliable parts support and no dependable warranty things look a lot less like good value.

In O_O's defence my fatty actually had a fault (stem was faulty so the headset wouldn't remain tight for more than a couple of miles and the rear tyre exploded (completely, it was quite impressive).

They took it back, replaced the tyre, and although it took a while to isolate the issue they sorted the stem too (and took it for some test rides to be sure).

And gave me some of the new knuckleball carbon bars as an apology.

It took a while, but I've no complaints with the service.

As for Fatty Vs Trail, I've no idea. I've a Fatty, I've not really found it's limit except in a few short sections, but I kinda want a trail to try a Bluto.

But then being O-O the frames will be £150-£200 soon enough, blutos are 'only' £450, O-O wheels+tyres are £250, £30 for a headset and £70 for some cranks and you're down to needing normal spares box stuff and it's only cost £1k (the same as the complete bike) and you're free to upgrade the bits ytou like (TBH I'd like to get carbon wheels to make tubeless simpler, but that makes it a £1300 build + spares box). So I'm probably going to hold off till the new year and build up a custom bike.

"Those who said they would buy a cheapish HT would be better buying a fatbike.."

based on what?

sounds like the worst justification ever.....

if i had an enduro gnarpoon(i dont) and i was buying something for the winter -it would be a skinny tired 29er - fat bikes and the mud round here dont mix*. its ok floating on top of it - but theres no traction up there....mines actually is most fun when the trails are hard pack dust / frozen or with about 3 inches of snow on. Deep mud for any extended periods where you might want to power down is a ballache.

*have a 907 with nates

But then being O-O the frames will be £150-£200 soon enough

Inside info or just generally reasoning?
If the former, any likelihood of the classic steel forked fatty going on offer soon?

I keep thinking about putting + tyres of some kind on the El Mar, but then I remember that the kind of riding I bought it for should have normal tyres.

@ molgrips - I know what you mean. I've spent most of the summer on the road bike (s) but will spend winter offroad mainly.
My 29er takes b+ but I'm happy the way it rides and think I'd rather have another bike option in the shape of a fat bike.

Inside info or just generally reasoning?
If the former, any likelihood of the classic steel forked fatty going on offer soon?

General reasoning.

any likelihood of the classic steel forked fatty going on offer soon?

for anyone interested i have a carbon beargrease in size large for sale on the fat bike selling facebook page for £1500 🙂
i bought a bucksaw, as fat bikes are ace

But then being O-O the frames will be £150-£200 soon enough, blutos are 'only' £450, O-O wheels+tyres are £250, £30 for a headset and £70 for some cranks and you're down to needing normal spares box stuff and it's only cost £1k (the same as the complete bike) and you're free to upgrade the bits ytou like

I'm trying to work out a cheapo build cost - where are you seeing their wheels+tyres for £250?
I can only spot the V2 wheelset for £300 plus tyres at £80 the pair. I 'think' i'd rather the V2's as aren't they the easier set to run tubelss?

With the classic fatty at £800 currently and the same spec as the carbon fork fatty, you can instead buy a carbon fork for £99 and come in £100 cheaper than the carbon fork version (I hope that makes sense).
So, £900 for a fatty/carbon.

However, if you dig a little deeper you can also find that smart looking Tomac Hesperus full carbon jobbie for £1500 with full 11sp X01. Then you can start the prolonged justification process..

However, if you dig a little deeper you can also find that smart looking Tomac Hesperus full carbon jobbie for £1500 with full 11sp X01. Then you can start the prolonged justification process..

I kept ending up at the Hespersus. The hope of a full sized Dune next year has put that on hold for the moment (for the frame, forks and wheels).

if you are going to run blutos, these are fantastic value

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/WBOOEELF/on-one-emmental-fat-rim-on-el-guapo-fat-hubs

I'm trying to work out a cheapo build cost - where are you seeing their wheels+tyres for £250?
I can only spot the V2 wheelset for £300 plus tyres at £80 the pair. I 'think' i'd rather the V2's as aren't they the easier set to run tubelss?

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/WBOOEELF/on-one-emmental-fat-rim-on-el-guapo-fat-hubs
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The V2 is just the original fatty wheelset with slightly updated hubs, means the 135mm front hub can be changed to 15mm (but then you need to figure out how to get it to 150mm wide for a bluto, not impossible but a little more faff than just putting adapters in. Floaters are £25 each (or were when I bought them). The emmental's will only work with the bluto though, not the On-One fork.

As for tubeless in the original wheels, it's a little faffy, but not impossible. People with compressors claim they get them up with just gorilla tape and sealent, I found it took, foam, tape, washing up liquid, and a lot of swearing with a track pump the first time (since then they go up 1st time each time).

The Emmenthal rims seem to be the same as you get on the Dune, and for OE on a £500 bike they're fine but I wouldn't pay actual money for em. Don't know about the hubs though, I'd assume they're better than mine!

How are you getting on with your Dune NW?

Only had it out a few times but loving it tbh, great fun. Nothing Dune-specific about that to be fair, I'm sure any traily fatty would be much the same. Needs more front tyre though, got a Bud on order. Spending £80 on a tyre for a £500 bike feels weird!

There are two pairs off OO Fatty wheels plus tyres, on ebay at the moment.

Just looked on one ones site, trail fatty has £100 off at the moment (was £1699)

I was looking at the Scott big Ed for £1599, thinking yeah £100 less than the on-one, although the Scott doesn't have the XO1 or a reverb I'd put that £100 towards XT 1x11!

Id rather have the canyon dude, but their not on canyons site at the moment, anyone know if their still stocking the dude for 2016?

Thanks for the reply NW.

Hope you keep on enjoying it.

I've got a 2 day loan of a fat bike over the next week (just waiting on a call to firm up which days). Can't wait!

Cough, cough http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/global-fat-bike-day-2016

JohnClimber - Member
Cough, cough http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/global-fat-bike-day-2016

Doing my best to get one in time!

I've just upgraded my very well specced oo for a carbon beargrease so after a bit of fettling today I'm off for my maiden ride in the morning.

First proper trail riding since June's injury stopped play....went to the Chase on my Dune, had a ride round the North Side, over the quarry just to see if I could climb the gravel climb at the side which for the first time ever I managed....and easier than only getting the first 20 metres on the normal trail bike.
Found the limits of adhesion in super soft off camber mud.....a few times......roots are breeze, even slick wet roots. Despite only having the tyre as suspension my injured shoulder didn't hurt at any time....it actually felt like I had more suspension than on the 29er with 100mm travel forks plus no irritating trail buzz.
Came back cleaner than on normal trail bike in same conditions too.
Self steer on off camber fire roads was an odd sensation but none when riding singletrack trails.
Lack of a dropper post was the only real drawback.....that and I'm tired now 😆
If you haven't tried one you need one in your quiver......