[Closed] do I really need road shoes/pedals in a road bike?

No.

But they are better.

I find road pedals more comfortable for long rides. The pedal / shoe combination offers more support and I didn't get hot-spots.

Never had that problem on the mountain bike, but you're changing position / cadence so frequently.

I use Candys on my road bike in the colder months so I can wear my MW80s. I also use Candys on my touring bike (and my MTBs). I "feel" as though the SPD-SLs are better, though it could all be in my head.

No.

No. I swapped from mtb pedals on the road bike to road pedals, but thinking of going back to mtb...
I find clipping into road pedals a real ball ache compared to mtb pedals. Had them 6 months, so thought i'd be better at it by now.

Don't crank brothers pedals fall apart?

Other than that, no it'll be fine. My longest ride last year was on my cross bike with xt pedals and mtb shoes. No issues over 145 miles.

[quote=jonba ]Don't crank brothers pedals fall apart?
The Candys on my tourer have covered around 6,000 miles. Not sure what the rest have done.

Music to my ears! Cheers all

road pedals have a bigger contact area so are more comfortable on hard long rides, less of a hot spot. the a mtb you move about more.
So if you get sore feet after long hard road rides then change to road pedals. if you don't then don't worry.

You could buy and use whatever you like but proper road pedals will be better.

one of the main things alsov i want is to be able to walk off the bike rather than waddle on cleats. Im thinking recessed MTB SPD/eggbeater types would be the only choice

No.

But they are better.

one of the main things alsov i want is to be able to walk off the bike rather than waddle on cleats. Im thinking recessed MTB SPD/eggbeater types would be the only choice

Yup, choices are either sit down with your coffee and cake, or go barefoot.

[s]road pedals[/s] Good shoes have a bigger contact area so are more comfortable on hard long rides, less of a hot spot. [s]the a mtb you move about more.[/s]
So if you get sore feet after long hard road rides then change to [s]road pedals[/s] better shoes. if you don't then don't worry.

🙂

I know a few 1/2 cat road racers who use SPD MTB pedals and shoes. You'll be find.

Flexible soles make it easier to walk (though less efficient to pedal). You can still slide A over T on a fully rigid MTB shoe 😳

I've got Time Atacs on my road bike, can't say I've ever noticed any problems with hot spots or whatever. But then I do use fairly stiff "disco slippers", if you're using softer shoes on the MTB it could be different.

I use toe clips.

I tend to get pins and needles in my feet if i ride mtb pedals and shoes and so when possible always ride road pedals an shoes on the longer rides

Speshpaul - Member
road pedals have a bigger contact area so are more comfortable on hard long rides, less of a hot spot. the a mtb you move about more.
So if you get sore feet after long hard road rides then change to road pedals. if you don't then don't worry.

I think a lot of it is down to the specific shoe. I get just as much (if not more) of a 'hot spot' with my road pedals/shoes as with my mtb shoes/pedals.

I went for road pedals/shoes, only because I wanted a specific pair of shoes for the road bike so i didn't have to go out in the winter with wet/muddy shoes from a previous mountain bike ride. Seemed like I might as well get the right 'tools for the job', but in actual fact I haven't noticed much difference over initally using mtb spd's apart from clipping in on mtb pedals is loads easier.

How much walking do you road riders actually do? I can get off the bike and stride confidently into Costa in my road shoes without falling over. The ladies swoon at my sleek white disco slippers.

Halfway house. PD A 600 pedals (single-sided SPD with nice big surround) and a pair of carbon soled BG Expert shoes for the summer and NW Celsius for winter. Stiff soles, plenty of power, recessed cleats so you don't spill your espresso/macchiato, no hotspots. Same shoes for all bikes winter and summer. 😉

How much walking do you road riders actually do?

i use normal double sided spd pedals on all my bikes, and find that shoes which are fine on an mtb are less good on a road bike.
i definitely need something stiffer on the road bike, ymmv.

I started with mtb shoes/ spds. It was fine for a bit, but as the rides got longer, the hotspot and lack of support became more noticeable, so bought some road shoes and pedals. IMO is it noticeably better.

The mtb shoes are mid-range race-type shoes though, not a whizzy stiffer-than-thou carbon wonder mtb race shoe, so I'd imagine the difference would be reduced if you had a really stiff mtb shoe.

One issue I've found is that MTB shoes can rock side-to-side on pedals. This gets increasingly pronounced as the tread around the cleat wears.

Just replaced my old pair of Sidi MTB shoes with Shimano touring shoes (also MTB cleat) and the difference is very noticeable

No, you can wear wellies, moon boots, whatever... I ride really long days on the tourers/tandems on spd's and similar days on the road bike with road pedals/shoes. I can walk around better with the former and I've convinced myself I'm more efficient with the latter.

Your £££'s, you choose. BTW, there may be a reason non of the Pro's use mtb spd's for road racing...

one of the main things alsov i want is to be able to walk off the bike rather than waddle on cleats. Im thinking recessed MTB SPD/eggbeater types would be the only choice

I've never understood this. I can happily jog in my cleats if I need to (using Specialized S-Works shoes, so plenty stiff!). Maybe on super slippery floors it's a bit dodgy, but on tarmac and pavement? Really??

Yeah but they're not the same as 'normal' shoes still are they?

m520 pedals on road bike here, with am45 shoes and baggies, add a huge camelback and a fox flux lid and sit back and enjoy the dirty looks from the roadies!

I much preferred Spesh MTB shoes and m520s to the shimano shoes and pedals I replaced them with. Felt a lot more vibration through my feel and they were uncomfortable after 30 miles. Never had any issues with the previous set up, although I accept a lot of that may have been down to the shoes.

I've never understood this. I can happily jog in my cleats if I need to (using Specialized S-Works shoes, so plenty stiff!). Maybe on super slippery floors it's a bit dodgy, but on tarmac and pavement? Really??

Jog? Well I suppose you can make a jogging movement in ice skates too, but it's not advisable. Maybe you have cat like ballance. Even if it were possible I found the cleats were trashed after a few miles walking back after a double flat, they even last noticably longer leaving the shoes in the shed with the bike rather than walking accross the car park each day in them.

[i]m520 pedals on road bike here, with am45 shoes and baggies, add a huge camelback and a fox flux lid and sit back and enjoy the dirty looks from the roadies! [/i]

Wow, you're so [s]cool[/s] 5 years ago.

Ah yes, of course online dating's where it's at nowadays...

Mister P - Member
How much walking do you road riders actually do? I can get off the bike and stride confidently into Costa in my road shoes without falling over.

.....but what about the urinal/face interface on the standard tiled toilet floor?

.....but what about the urinal/face interface on the standard tiled toilet floor?

I use mtb shoes (racey carbon soled ones though) on the road. Done big rides (400km+) with no problems. But then my road bike is actually a cross bike, so can get away with... I hope 😉

[i]Ah yes, of course online dating's where it's at nowadays... [/i]

Nope, that is so 3 months ago. Do keep up!

😀 but seriously I do love the way they are so miserable (mostly). If I encounter another rider on the trails I'll say hi and stop for a chat whatever they're wearing or riding, but roadies seem so 'clicky'

You don't need to be attached to the pedals.

jonathan - Member
I use mtb shoes (racey carbon soled ones though) on the road. Done big rides (400km+) with no problems. But then my road bike is actually a cross bike, so can get away with... I hope

think it helps the roadies ....before I switched to MTB shoes on my road bike I noticed the club riders in the local cafe's looked at your legs a lot......wearing mtb shoes means no one has to check if you shave your legs - you're not one of them

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FWIW, it's funny but there are equally ignorant cyclists who only ride on the road who say exactly the same about mtbers (mostly) being so miserable...

This thread kind of proves them (partly) right 😉

So me saying hi to mtbers and to roadies but getting just a dirty look makes them right?
nemesis I don't quite catch your point

Yeah but they're not the same as 'normal' shoes still are they?

Well no, they're not. But it's not like trying to wear normal shoes on an ice rink, there's still *some* grip there.

TBH I think it's the [b]triathlete advantage[/b] - I've got to be able to run through transition, so I've just got used to running with cleats 😀 *ducks*

Aah the Triathlete Advantage, a close relative of the Edinburgh Defence perchance?

First ride tonight on SPD -SL Ultegra pedals and carbon soled DHB road shoes. Used to use Candys and Spec BG mtb shoes, for the last 2000 miles or so anyways.

Awful technique to get in compared to Crank Bros pedals, but once in very secure amd direct. Instant , noticable power transfer increase . Not huge but deffo there , most noticable standing up rather than sitting down.

Getting out of the pedals ( set in minimum spring tension ) as easy as twisting out of CB 's . I can see some 'moments' happening though if trying to unclip in a hurry under load.

Only did an hour to test out the cleat position as I ride toe out, and pretty much got right from the off. I bought the yellow 6' float cleats , which on initial impressions look like they will last a few weeks before needing replacement.

See rule 34.

roadies seem so 'clicky'

That'll be the shoes... You need those though to join their clique.

....but what about the urinal/face interface on the standard tiled toilet floor?

Probably best to use the sink, or ask for a spare empty [u]paper[/u] cup (Costa get a bit funny if you piss in their mugs)...

I have been eyeing up some DHB R1.0 shoes of late, my old xc type shoes are looking a bit tired, and they seem to be mostly used on the road bikes, so I want something with a stiffer sole, cheap but I'd also like to keep using my m520s and they are drilled for both apparently. Anyone using them like that?

if you really need to you can get MTB cleats onto some road shoes but you'll be walking around on a small metal lump as opposed to a wide plastic lump

Mountain bike SPDs and shoes are good if you need to walk etc so touring yes but road shoes and road cleats for road bikes are a better solution, there's something ace about a full-on pair of disco slippers 😀

Getting out of the pedals ( set in minimum spring tension ) as easy as twisting out of CB 's . I can see some 'moments' happening though if trying to unclip in a hurry under load.

Road pedals are way more comfortable than spd's IMHO and my mates opinions too.

I've only ever used the proper road ones on a track day. Apart from that it's candies (lower failure rate than the recent XTR's I believe) I walk round lots and don't take the roadie seriously, I can use all my shoes on all my bikes (the teval pivots and minnars are much better for pub visits) and I don't grind the plastic cleats walking in them. I used to live at the end of a rough gravel road when I got the roadie and had no intention of wandering round in fancy cleats on that.

When I get a new bike I'll probably treat myself to some new shoes/pedals for it and keep them clean.

So me saying hi to mtbers and to roadies but getting just a dirty look makes them right?
nemesis I don't quite catch your point

I think his point is there's lots of miserable arses in the world and generalising that all people on MTBs are awesome fun-loving people and all people on road bikes are grumpy buggers who'll poke your eyes out with the slightest provocation is basically stupid.

switched from Look/Rapha to XTR Race/Shimano AM45 when my Rapha's broke, cannot notice the difference

Fair enough, not really what I was trying to say though.

edhornby - Member
if you really need to you can get MTB cleats onto some road shoes but you'll be walking around on a small metal lump as opposed to a wide plastic lump

Shimano do a cleat adaptor for just this purpose....

[url= http://www.tweekscycles.com/Product.do?method=view&n=3468&p=343953&c=215&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Pedal%20Cleats&gclid=CIqg4teBg78CFQXnwgod4ZIAKA ]Linky Linky[/url]

Bit pricey for a bit of plastic.
My road shoes (Shimano somethings) will take both cleat types.

Initially I used MTB pedals and shoes. Then I got some road shoes and fitted spd cleats for a couple of rides, realised that the cleat was a bit of an issue on road shoes and found the above item.
But, given that you can get pedals for £20, £15 on a piece of plastic seemed a bit of a rip-off so I went for the pedal option instead. Tempted to do back to the spd option and get those adaptors though to be honest, just for the ease of clipping in.

I'm using Shimano touring pedals, same interface as the mountain bike ones but lower weight than XTR.

[url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-a600-spd-touring-pedals ]http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-a600-spd-touring-pedals[/url]

Single sided but you get used to it quickly.