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Anyone done it? Have just ordered the parts - Loco says they'll fit fine.

Was between a moco upgrade or new forks, didn't fancy the service intervals or the flex in a pair of 32 Talas so decided to keep my trusty Pikes.


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 1:08 pm
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not tried it but would be interested to hear how you get on. my piles could do with some tlc so might consider the upgrade.


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 9:31 pm
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not tried it but would be interested to hear how you get on. my [b]piles[/b] could do with some tlc so might consider the upgrade.

I very much doubt a suspension fork upgrade will help with that.


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 10:01 pm
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prezet. Can you keep us informed as i don,t want to get rid of mine,superb forks.
would love to upgrade them to stop them chocking up as much.
Si at loco knows his stuff so this should be good... 😀
Whats the cost all in for the parts bud...


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 10:05 pm
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oops, I meant pikes not piles, honest


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 10:23 pm
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Can anyone tell me what the new DNA Moco gubbins costs?


 
Posted : 02/04/2012 10:57 pm
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Have you also got the Dual-Flow rebound assembly? Apparently that makes a huge difference compared with stock Pikes.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 1:10 am
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the rtc3 gubbins in my '12 revs is wonderful.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 1:49 am
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I'm another one interested in what parts your brought, at what price and how different the forks perform after the upgrade. Looking forward to an update...

Pending feedback Loco from prezet, you might be getting a call about an order from me 🙂


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:04 am
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I stuck a Blackbox MoCo in a Pushed Pike earlier this year. Dunno how it compares to the DNA gubbins, but you'll get much more bang per buck from a Push rebound damper or a RS Dual Flow damper ime. I'd do that before bothering with the compression side of things.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:25 am
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I was debating this in my sektors, but the compression damper is about £125, the rebound's about £75 and the service £75 on top of that, Assuming the forks are worth £200 on ebay then £275's a lot to spend on them when new Rev's RCT3's are £500 with even more upgrades on the spring side and they'd be new.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:40 am
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About £20 less than you quoted there, the cheapest upgrade is to replace the rebound with the dual flow unit (rrp 83.99) I'm alot cheaper than this though, easily home fit able at the same time you do a service, or it's fitted free with a service with me. 😀 oh and I can tune it for you too.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:45 am
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About £20 less than you quoted there, the cheapest upgrade is to replace the rebound with the dual flow unit (rrp 83.99) I'm alot cheaper than this though, easily home fit able at the same time you do a service, or it's fitted free with a service with me. oh and I can tune it for you too.

Is there an easy way to check if RS forks have the DualFlow rebound damper? They are 2011 Revelation RL. The RS site is a bit inconsistent.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:54 am
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My Pike is a coil u-turn, so I don't believe the dual flow unit is applicable?

I also don't need the extra travel in Rev's, and I like the u-turn feature of the Pikes. I only need 140mm max for my BFe, and IMO the Pike is still one of the best forks in that travel range.

Si charged me a mere £120 for the RCT3, and £20 for some new seals, so going to strip them down and give them a good 'ol service over the next week.

If the forks still choke, then I'll probably consider getting them Pushed next. But I'll def be hanging onto my Pikes until the sad day they die.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 8:58 am
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Yep the dual flow is regarding the damping side so it's definitely applicable. I don't think any Pikes came with fancy dampers. The dual flow rebound would be a bigger upgrade than the new MoCo compression unit, from what I hear.

PUSHing does the same sort of thing as the dual-flow rebound. I gather PUSHing them makes them a bit harsh on small bumps whereas the dual flow unit from RS doesn't suffer that. Either way is fairly substantial upgrade when it gets choppy.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 10:52 am
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Thanks for the info - might as well do that upgrade too while I'm at it then 🙂


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 11:01 am
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Sounds like a plan. Might be worth asking LoCo how much oil to stick in the damper - I have a feeling the oil volume might alter if you change all the dampers.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 11:42 am
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Just spoken to him - he's going to check if the dual flow will fit in the Pikes as the rod may be too long 🙂


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 11:46 am
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So, dual flow assembly won't fit the Pikes. Looks like Pushing would be the only option - but a bit pricey. Will see what difference the DNA Moco makes.


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 1:47 pm
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Dam....Fancied sticking the dual flow in mine.
Simon...Buy a nice fresh hacksaw blade and tailor me one up bud... 😆


 
Posted : 03/04/2012 6:02 pm
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Prezet, did he say it did not fit pikes in general or just not coil pikes.?

Thanks


 
Posted : 04/04/2012 8:52 am
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@alzore - I only asked about my Coil 454's... but I did get the feeling it would be all Pikes. Worth giving him a call just to check if you're curious.


 
Posted : 04/04/2012 9:43 am
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The spring is in the opposite leg to the damping. So the type of spring be it air coil or magic shouldn't effect what type of damper you can fit in there.

I would guess the dual flow wont fit because it is designed for longer travel forks and in the pikes it is too close to the compression circuit.


 
Posted : 04/04/2012 9:56 am
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That's what i was thinking about the lack of room due to being designed for a longer fork. I have found this article on another forum which is interesting...

[url= http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/dual-flow-rebound-damper-pike-629477.html ]null[/url]


 
Posted : 04/04/2012 10:34 am
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Right, just to clear this up, Rockshox do not recommend fitting the dual flow unit either the 2011 RLT TI Blackbox unit or the slightly shorter 2012 unit which has slightly different shimming, to Pikes.
I have fitted a 2011 unit in a Pike and although the unit didn't touch the moco it was pretty close at full compression so I have been recommending not to fit them due to possible issues.
I can supply them what you do is up to you and don't sy I didn't warn you if your fork explodes/vapourizes/implodes 😉


 
Posted : 04/04/2012 10:43 am