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Thinking of having a go MTB clipless. Already ride clipless on road so I now roughly what to expect.

I've can use a set of Time ATAC Alium pedals, as they were left in my car by a forgetful friend a few years back but i think i prefer the idea of having some sort of cage in case i can't get my foot back in when heading downhill.

Any suggestions for good value, reliable and well functioning clipless pedals? Preferably something similar to the DH Mallets but with a significantly lower price!


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:11 pm
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I've never had a problem clipping back i mean never ever.

Also the its nit like missing in a road shoe plenty enough grip not not immediately fall off!


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:18 pm
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That's more reassuring. I'd assumed it would be as slippery as it is on the road bike.

So a cage round the outside isn't too essential?


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:20 pm
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So a cage round the outside isn't too essential?

Not really, some say it gives you a bigger area to aim at when you're clipping in, others say the platform catches on your shoes and so makes it harder but that's pretty marginal. Shimano 520's can be had for £20 and are a damn fine start point, the work well and last a long time.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:24 pm
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So a cage round the outside isn't too essential?

Depending on the shoes, the cage can be a hindrance.
It's too easy to slip off the cage when not properly clipped in ime.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:26 pm
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M530s have a cage, easier target, but just as easy to slip off if muddy. There are some with a grippier edged cage, I think they're M454. More expensive, but arguably better are, I think m640 something.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:39 pm
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M545 have an alloy cage with toothed edge.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 5:46 pm
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TIME mtb pedals are superior to shimano in all but price though 🙂


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 6:05 pm
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it think i prefer the idea of having some sort of cage in case i can't get my foot back in when heading downhill

It's not an issue, take it from someone with 20 years of SPD experience. Or rather, you do sometimes miss, but a cage won't help much. The design of the shoe helps the most - my new Spesh shoes have a great big channel in the middle so clipping in is super easy. IMO one of the advantages of clipless is being able to use proper stiff soled shoes, and these don't work well on cages at all.

I struggle to see past Shimano pedals. Their budget offerings are cheap and very solid. There are some light ones from the likes of Boardman (that look suspiciously like Xpedo from years back) but in my experience they will either break or develop loads of play. You can get Shimano for cheap online.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 6:26 pm
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IMHO if you have decent stiff shoes then a cage isn't necessary, If you have bendy sole shoes then a cage supports your feet and stops the shoe bending around the pedal spindle. Again not necessary but perhaps more comfy.

I don't think having a cage helps at all if you miss a clip as you have the clipless pedal bit sticking up in the middle anyhow, and the lump of brass in the middle of your shoe both conspiring to be as ungrippy as possible! the cage sits as a low point around these so is useless.

Just make the clip.

I'm a Candy Bros fan and use eggbeaters on the 'fast' bikes when I wear decent fast xc shoes, but mallets (cheap old ones off ebay) for when I'm on the comfy bikes pottering around with big fat sponges on my feet.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 6:35 pm
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M520s are £15.99 on CRC currently.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 6:37 pm
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I just ordered a pair of m530 pedals and some m065 shoes for the total of £63, so can let you know how i get on in a few days time.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 10:11 pm
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Cheers nairnster. Look forward to hearing ho you get on


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 10:17 pm
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TIME mtb pedals are superior to shimano in all but price though

True.

Time pedals are simply excellent.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 10:17 pm
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Molgrips which spesh shoes have you got?

Tried the 2FOs on yesterday but wasn't too sure about the fit.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 10:28 pm
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Time do a set of pedals with a cage if that helps.

I've had the misfortune of losing a cleat at the start of a ride in the Lakes. You can - just - ride unclipped on a Time pedal but it's a miserable and somewhat unpredictable experience.

If it helps, it was that unpleasant that I now carry a spare set of cleats and bolts in my Camelbak.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 10:32 pm
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BG Sport, the new ones.


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 11:48 pm
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There are some light ones from the likes of Boardman (that look suspiciously like Xpedo from years back)

Exustar 😉 http://cycling.exustar.com/index.php/products/categories/pedals/e-pm215-detail
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=273937&productId=1101214&storeId=10001


 
Posted : 30/06/2015 11:57 pm
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My shoes and pedals arrived today. Was planning on a long ride but its now pissing it down here (what heatwave?), so will give some opinion in a few days.

First impressions are good though with the pedals nice and easy to clip into with the mo65 shoes. Definitely not as slippy as road SPD sl.


 
Posted : 01/07/2015 1:32 pm
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My shoes and pedals arrived today. Was planning on a long ride but its now pissing it down here (what heatwave?), so will give some opinion in a few days.

First impressions are good though with the pedals nice and easy to clip into with the mo65 shoes. Definitely not as slippy as road SPD sl.

Thanks for the update.

Pretty much convinced myself to go and get some clipless shoes and cleats. 3 weeks to get used to them before the alps!


 
Posted : 03/07/2015 12:06 pm
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I must say I'm rather enjoying the recent threads on people wanting to try clipless.

Glad I never sold out to flats while they were a la mode.


 
Posted : 03/07/2015 12:25 pm
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Bit more of an update.

I am defintely pedalling smoother with the spds on the mtb than with the flats. I always span well on the road bike, but didnt realise how choppy it was on the mtb until I changed.

Its easy to clip in and out, and on the couple of occasions where i have tested pedalling without clipping, its been ok, and would probably be even better with a skate/bmx style clipless shoe.

The M065 shoes i have are pretty comfy. Ordered a 45 as opposed to my normal 44 and they fit just right. The only niggle/s i have are:

The cleat can still be felt contacting the ground when walking, and feels as though it could be potentially dangerous on wet rock.
The top of the tongue digs into my ankle a bit. This couldbe solved by trimming it a little, but I am going to see if it softens up and digs in less.

All in all, pleased with my purchase, but will keep the flats just in case.


 
Posted : 03/07/2015 7:24 pm
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M530s are excellent. Used to have 540s without the cage but I much prefer the caged versions as I get less hot spots. Could be due to my shoes being a bit flexy but if you are tired and on a tricky climb and need to start off again then being able to just mash on the caged pedal to get you going really helps.


 
Posted : 03/07/2015 7:28 pm
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Still waiting for my cleats to arrive so won't get to try them out the new shoes until this weekend.

My other half described them as orthopaedic boots. I think that means she doesn't like them.

A slight point of concern when buying the cleats thru CRC is that they're described as XC cleats/cleats for XC pedals. Should I worry if I'm going to be using these pedals for heavier duties?

(Time ATAC Aliums by the way - http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/pedals/product/review-time-atac-alium-pedals-14748/ Can't find a link to the actual product page)


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 12:04 pm
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Thanks for the update. Glad to hear they're less fussy than road pedals, that was a key concern.

I also have similar concerns about cleat contact with ground but though that I'd probably not wear the clip shoes when I'm doing any serious hike-a-bike, partly due to the clip and partly due to the stiffness of the shoe, which I think will cause loads of blisters on a long push up.


 
Posted : 06/07/2015 12:11 pm