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I'll be there mr a 🙂

Got any one-handed barrows? 😉

I have been looking at this corner and the images in some detail with my assistant this morning.
It's enormously telling when you look at them. I'll have the full upload shortly so maybe you can check this out too as there are maybe 30 shots taken on the exit.
In essence, the fast riders look up and firstly into and then out of the corner.

The fastest line is to stay out to the right on the approach, but not too wide, then steering close to the apex (the tree), and running wide under power on the exit which is a down-hill, off camber tightening radius with roots - and it's wet. A classic corner to observe the various techniques of the quick and the not-so-quick!

It's at the tree where you see the riders' eye-lines switch with the fast riders who then look at the exit point and then beyond. If you're quick through here, the head & lid are up and over to the left.

More steady riders look down at the ground, and put simply, the brain can't process this macro-vision approach so there's a limit to how quickly you can ride when you look only 2-4ft in front of your front wheel.

The fastest line is to stay out to the right on the approach, but not too wide, then steering close to the apex

Aye, that was pretty much what I was doing - its the line I've taken for the last 3 years without problem anyway 🙂 Bike just seems to ride itself round the corner due to the camber. I dunno what happened, I just ended up on the deck, I just assumed I'd caught a root as it s bit clattery over the apex.

Its a nice section with the run in and and ruts on the way out. Very swoopy.

Any pictures of this corner? I can't really visualise the one you mean.

It's the rooty lefthander that wakes you up halfway down the Postal path (from Gluhwein Corner to the bottom of Ellick Express) 😉

oh. Mostly I've gone high and left at the fork just above that. It certainly wakes one up in the wet though.

Assuming I'm thinking of the same bit, I think I was dropping in to the right and cutting across the roots to the left...

Anyone else doing laps in their sleep last night? 🙄

Pics up in maybe 15 mins, although in its infinate wisdom, Adobe has chosen to omitt a whole host of images (why do I hate Adobe sooooo much!?) , so the whole upload will have to be re-done later this evening.
Meaning: if you're not in this upload and rode on Sunday morning you might still be in the final pictures - so bear with me please.
Tim

Actually one of our faster regulars swears by drifting the outside line next to the fence all the way round, but he's an ex MX rider who also claims not to bother spotting landings for jumps until he's already in the air... 😯

I'm sure theres enough entrance speed to utilize one of the first roots as a kicker, so you can pretty much jump clear of the section....

I think on my one lap, i went round the tree to the left and rode through the blue bells....my walking boots weren't to gripping on my mud covered plactic spd insert jobbies...

Steve, i'll look through mine again and see if there's a 103 lurking in the congested first lap pics

Thanks Sharki... however wouldn't waste your time didn't do first lap 😳 my first lap was in around the 3rd hour!

I've got absolutely no idea which corner you're all talking about.
Jumping off a kicker? Drifting around the outside? Uh?

Someone's going to need to post a pic.

No I've got no idea either??

whatever it is, it sure sounds exciting 😉

I think I've got an idea but can't remember a kicker!! It was a left hand root infested corner if I'm right but I didn't think it was anything to worry about. I was taking the entrance close to the tree and exiting wide near the fence (if its the same corner we are all on about). I would have only straight lined it when dry TBH.

It won't be a big arse obvious kicker.

Even a small stone/root/small animal can be used to gain a little air time.

Where is it you ask????

After going through the gate(after very short stoney climb..all 8 metres of it) and turning right you ride across the moorland, through dips and hollows in the trail, a few ruts, etc to avoid, as it starts to gently point downwards there's a little corner or straight on for root fest, this took you a little steeper downwards before entering the tree line, a few twists then duck, and cross the stream bed or fall off..
Delete as applicable.

I need to fess up.

I'm one of the LVIS Singlespeed Superstars, and although we are singlespeed superstars, once we saw all the road that was on the course, we decided to ride geared (give everyone else a chance :-).

I tried to get the organisers to change our name, but apparantley it was too difficult, so everytime I went past the timing tent I scribbled out SS and wrote "gears" on the sheet.

oh, that.

Yeh, I did 360 superman seatgrabs at that bit.

Leon, you have trampled roughshod over my tender boyhood dreams.

Fair play though, looks like it was minging. 😉

I remember the corner, I think, well it was raining and I was soaked, and I saw someone on the trail and slowed down because I thought someone had crashed then realised it was a camera man, much like on a night lap, I saw someone in the grass slowed down shouted you alright? Turned out it was a camera man! BOO! Need a Sign before so I can get my racing tuck on!

That corner's been talked up a bit more than it deserves :rolleyes: but it is one of those satisfying technical features that can be ridden *much* faster than you think, when you get it right.

So... who was riding and who was walking on the first Twin Brook crossing (the one with the rocky step-up)? 😉

I'm one of the LVIS Singlespeed Superstars, and although we are singlespeed superstars, once we saw all the road that was on the course, we decided to ride geared (give everyone else a chance :-).

Can't say I blame you - I rode the parade lap SS to see what conditions were like before breaking out the Fullsusser (which I did and it got caked to sh*t anyway as it rained before my first counted lap). I was riding with a geared team mate, pulled a minute or so out on him and then lost a full 5 mins to him just coasting down the road section spinning out.

So... who was riding and who was walking on the first Twin Brook crossing (the one with the rocky step-up)?

Walked the actual stream but cleared the root fest immediately after which everyone seemed to also walk, wasn't nearly as difficult as it actually looked.

With the brook crossing, in my defence, it just looked like a clipped in tumble into the ditch waiting to happen and conditions sucked enough as it was!

I was at that corner for about 2 hrs taking pics and tree felling.

Only saw 3 people clear it, best and fastest effort was Mr curtis, who rammed his ss into the rock and cleared it, but ended up partially in the under growth, lol

Good to see riders knowing their limits and not taking risks, i stalled there 2 years ago and re tore my knee ligaments....

God knows why i attempted it this year given my present condition and attire at the time.....lol, gotta be done though eh??

Yeah I didn't feel any less manly for walking it! Rode the bit right after though! I think the big one is who resorted to using granny ring to ride the final kick in the balls bit after the firetrail uphill? (you know turn right off the firetrail to the moor bit) I forced myself to stay in middle! YEAH THAT's HOW I ROLL!

I think the big one is who resorted to using granny ring to ride the final kick in the balls bit after the firetrail uphill?

Granny every lap baby! And I walked it on my last night lap but then I was yawning and almost nodding off at the bars...

I'm one of the LVIS Singlespeed Superstars, and although we are singlespeed superstars, once we saw all the road that was on the course, we decided to ride geared

You rode GEARED!!! Does Nouveau even have a bike with them? He probably spent 24hrs trying to work out what the flappy things under his brakes were...

I'll have to think of a fitting punishment for sullying your team name 🙂

I was already punished. On the first lap my front derailleur bolt sheared, and I spent 5 minutes faffing around getting half a bolt out and replacing it with one of my bottle cage bolts.

stupid gears.

I tried different lines on every lap over those roots. I managed straight over/nearly hit the fence, stay as far outside as I dare/nearly hit the fence, follow a guy slipping about with his back light flashing/nearly ran him over, etc, etc.

Still the lines grooved in on the last descent and the lovely rocky descent about 1/3 of the way round, I much preferred to go down the middle rather than near the side. No point hauling a 5in travel hardtail round and then taking the non rocky route!

I'm averagely useless but a refusal to accept my riding limits, I rode the stream twice. First time was great and managed to get up on the left afterwards and clear the whole section. I was so insanely pleased with myself, I thought my new found riding skills would put let me glide over this trail obstacle every lap.

Next time, I *nearly* fell in after stalling on a rock mid stream and then rode the roots like a drunkard, eventually shoulder butting a tree as I span out.

After that I walked it 🙂

All my shots here, i would've got alot more if didn't get ran over..... 😉

http://shane.photos.fotopic.net/c1698721_1.html
And check out the power going through that rear wheel.....
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Hey Sharki - that's me 🙂

Check out the horrific gillet - €6 from Go Sport in Paris!

But at least it matches the kit 🙂

I thought it was you leon, but i got a mail of some bloke Lynam.....i think i've sent to many off and got confuzzled. 😕

They've been sent to the LVIS addy for sure though..

Yeah, I've got them all, thanks Sharki 🙂

Sometimes I look at you Leon and wonder how you don't snap in half.

😉

The rest of the images are now live.
5 orders thus far!
I was in the bushes on that corner at 11:00-11:15 on Sunday only.
Cheers
Tim

I'm not sure that's power Sharki. He seems to be applying the brakes...

:o~

BOOOO! 15plus pages of images and not a single one of me! BAH! I'm defiantly a ghost! anyone 103?

steve 103, were you in a blue and red, baggy looking tor, sort of a cross thing going on with the pattern, dark greyish E5 lid and white flat bars???

Sometimes I look at you Leon and wonder how you don't snap in half.

I wonder the same thing when I see pictures. There's one of me on Nouveau's Facebook CLIC gallery, and with armwarmers on it looks like two sticks of liquorice poking out of my jersey!

Gosh Iv'e never managed crossing East Twin, only tried it twice full-on - the first time I fell down the stream bed and hurt my arm. The second time I smashed my right knee into the stem. Both injuries took a boring amount of time to heal, so I always push that bit. "Well done" to everyone who can ride it.

The mildy rooty left corner by the fence-line is a larf because the trail steepens just before it and if you stay off the brakes you hit it at mental speed. I tend to approach right-ish, brake late, turn, then aim to hit the root bundle in the middle nice and square with a light front wheel. The immediate right is where you maintain speed and it's slightly banked/rutted which you can use. It is a bit blind and occasionally used by walkers! It's a nice bit tho.

Wish I'd done the event now. Maybe next year I'll find some other xcjeys to join.

Sharki this is my bike:

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No joy here then, i'd of remembered a purdy looking bike like that.....

I guess around that time i was trying to kick a wheel straight :wink:...errrrm pushing a bike back down the course after it and rider got intimate with me in the blue bells..

My next photo session was interrupted by me not stopping to take any pics as i was caught up in the naughtiness/excitement of riding off road for the first time in 8 or 9 weeks..

In 2005 and 2006 I could cross East Twin Brook at will. These days its 50/50 at best.

Penalty for failure is rather high.

Either the stream crossing has got worse, or I have...

I was beaten by the weather. Went to bed after 8 laps, there are only so many times that you can get soaked through and freezing cold before deciding that it's no fun any more. Got up and headed out again just after 6am, freezing torrential rain and gales started again about 3/4 of the way around the lap. Went and hid in a tent for 90 mins. Put full winter kit on and headed out again. Punctured on first descent, took ages to mend it as my hands didn't work, finished lap and called it a day. Bah. Still, I raised over £800 so not all bad.

The event itself was properly ace. Really chilled out. Fantastic course that was still 100% rideable despite the conditions (and the cheeky bluebell singletrack was fantastic for the first couple of laps until the heavens opened again), live music, good food, lovely beer and no cocks barging past people on the course unlike at most of the other 24H events 🙂

I see Terrahawk managed a fantastic 20 laps. That nearly didn't happen as he came very close to riding head on into a moving car near the end of his 5th lap. Muppet 🙂

Good work Simon, however I wish you hadn't mentioned sleep when I met you on our eighth lap, needed sleep....

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Hey Sharki, you can't have kicked that wheel too hard! A happy bike mech' in Johns Bikes said he'd be able to sort it out for a few quid! Not sure if I'll trust it, we'll see.

I see Terrahawk managed a fantastic 20 laps. That nearly didn't happen as he came very close to riding head on into a moving car near the end of his 5th lap. Muppet

Ha!
He didn't mention THAT bit when I spoke to him! I'm sure he said he nearly fell asleep on the bike while riding along that road last time...

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looked like your nipples pulled through your rim.......so either your holes are made bigger or your nipple were too soft....

simon, you saved my life. you're a lovely lovely man...

😉

steve when u say you didnt have any pictures taken was that because you actually didnt ride? i wondered why you didnt complain enough about riding with slick tyres on your bike...

in other news although my uphill skills arent upto much the speed or lack of on the downhills that i saw out there was just shocking! get a cyclocross bike people this isnt road riding!!

im no dh racer but come on people wheres your skills!

(puts flame suit on)

Lights match.

It was for charity, therefore for fun, so alot of riders weren't experienced, some i chatted to had never been off road before.

Given the amount of entrants who didn't turn up, some i guess are experiened riders, these slower riders put those others to shame..

Less criticism and more encouragement.

All events have such a great range in abilities and i for one enjoy seeing people of all abilities just out there, having fun, riding bikes.

Unlike the miserable sod who bitched and moaned at me, for making sure he was ok, after he rode head first into THAT tree....

I stopped on a lap and helped 2 ladies who were stuck with no pump (although they had a spare tube) and had a puncture.

So many people just rode past without asking if they needed help.

I swapped the tube and used one of my co2 cartridges and fixed it for them in about 2 mins. Made their day and I rode off feeling good for helping them. People forget it is for charity and charity is helping those in need!

Me and my mate managed 10 laps each but I'm sooo full of respect for the people who were riding round in trainers and bikes that most of us on here wouldn't look twice at.

I managed to miss most of the bad weather apart from the rain/hail stuff that drowned me from 7 o'clock on Sunday although thankfully I was hiding back in the tent when it properly came down about 9.

Anyone know the guy with the Rolhoff that I think was on a green bike. He was seriously fast downhill.

Another thank you to Neil for organising something that must have been pretty difficult for him too. Cheers fella.

edd - Member
Jason - how many laps did Chris do?

Hi Edd, Chris done 21 laps, you can check out what his comment on the BC forum http://www.bikecity.biz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1238

Cheer Jas

sharki yes good point my bad. i did have a great laugh though and its nice chatting to loads of people as you ride around. lots of ladies too. not that i noticed

Hi Edd, Chris done 21 laps, you can check out what his comment on the BC forum

Aye, they missed one of mine too, we had to pop into the tent and ask them kindly to sort it 🙂

Name and shame! Judging by how clean he is, this looks like first lap as well... 😉

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Where did that pic come from Gary?

Cant be his first lap, Thats one of my bike city team mates in the red and he was our 3 man out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12002177@N05/sets/72157618739215266/

I'm only teasing btw - I walked up it on one of my night laps lol - no one was looking and I was shagged 😀

Also, when I ride it solo next year, permission granted to mock me for walking that bit...

I really hate pushing so made myself ride up that bit every lap. I did have to resort to granny ring after about lap 7 though - and that was for the whole climb, not just the steeper bit at the end which made for a very long/slow climb!

Thats not me, its Kingtut of this shire. I grannied it each lap, along with the steep bit at the beginning of the climb.

That's one of the photo's taken by the better half who was out snapping most of Saturday - she reckon's she was around the top of that lungturner about 4:30pm. Must've been a slow first lap 😉

Kudos for remaining so clean! 😀

Although to be fair it still looks pretty clean and my first non parade lap would have been around 5pm and it was a total sheet fest by then after the apoco-rain

I'm only teasing btw - I walked up it on one of my night laps lol - no one was looking and I was shagged

Name and shame!Judging by how clean he is, this looks like first lap as well...

That was probably my 5th lap as a solo rider, I trained hard for that race but the day before I came down with a cold, which I'm still suffering with, I woke up Saturday morning feeling bad and I knew it wasn't going to go well but carried on without pit support completely on my own, by 11PM (ish) I was suffering, shivering etc, so I went to sleep in my car covered in spare clothes as I had no preparation for sleeping.

I woke in the morning feeling like shit with the prospect of soaking wet shoes to climb into, that was it for me, end of race.

Name and shame - sure It's me KINGTUT.

Poor Mike 🙂 I don't think you have to justify yourself as a solo rider in those conditions.

Thanks Clubber 🙂 seriously though I had the fitness to do far better than that, I am really quite pissed about it.

Expect a lot of macho gnashing of teeth at the 12, I have something to prove. (to myself if no one else).

I look forward to seeing your power mince gurn at the 12 🙂

I look forward to seeing your power mince gurn at the 12

I've been practising 8)

The evenings must just fly by 😉

🙂

Well done mate! You can destroy me in two weeks at the Bristol 12 as I'll be doing my first big solo then...

I'll be chuffed if I actually finish. 🙂

mattstreet could I have a copy of CLIC24_2009-05-16_136.

Thanks.

I love it when you get all defensive Mike. 😉

I think if you're soloing you can do it two ways. You can go for the glory and mash up all the climbs, then blow up after 4 laps, or you can be canny, conserve your energy and do well just by staying out for the duration. I've seen some really good 24 hour racers pushing up climbs but come the descents they are off the brakes and eking out every bit of momentum from the course.

You can join the CLIC24 2009 sour grapes club with me Mike 🙂

I pushed up that climb a couple of times. Nowt wrong with getting off and stretching the muscles out once in a while.