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Hello everyone, I am looking for a chain guide for my bike, I want a top only guide as I'm more xc/all mountain based and not to be silly money! I have noticed that there are either bb mounted ones and seat post ones. Help guys.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 2:24 pm
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Superstar do some cheap top only guides.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 2:25 pm
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I just bought a hope slick guide which is iso5 tab mount. Seems like a well made piece of kit but it is for single ring only


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 2:26 pm
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The superstar top guides kind of suck unfortunately, very flexy so they don't reliably hold the chain on and can twist and jam it too. MRP do a nice BB mounted 1x, it's not that cheap mind...

If you've got ISCG mounts then maybe a Shovel or similiar. I have the Shovel carbon on mine, it's really nice, but the metal one is barely any heavier and it's better value. I really like the 2-bolt ISCG fixing, means you can remove or fit the guide without removing the cranks.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 2:31 pm
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Had no issue with the Superstar cheap one on my old bike. Gave it some hammer too.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 2:54 pm
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Recently bought a [url= http://int.oneupcomponents.com/collections/all-products/products/top-guide ]Oneup Components[/url] top guide. Very light and discrete though ISCG05 only, but <£35


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 3:12 pm
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Ive got a lightly used [url= ]MRP 1x[/url] guide for sale if your frame has a high direct mount front mech.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 3:19 pm
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Single ring and narrow wide? Not used a chain device in a while.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 3:21 pm
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Unfortunately no ISCG mount on my bike, it's a giant reign 2 2008. So would have to be either bb mount or seat post mount.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:24 pm
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[quote=mikewsmith ]Single ring and narrow wide? Not used a chain device in a while.

+ clutch mech and there really is no need for a chain device anymore unless you are racing.

I honestly can't remember the last time I lost the chain.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:26 pm
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Also didn't mention I'm going for the single ring up front


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:26 pm
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I think I've lost the chain 4 times in about the last 2 years (apart from crashes and occasional getting out of car) but it's always been really bloody annoying 😆 So with these tiny lightweight chainguides that are out now I figured I might as well. Agree though that narrow/wide chainring by itself is very effective, certainly good enough, I just want it to be a wee bit better.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:31 pm
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+ clutch mech and there really is no need for a chain device anymore unless you are racing.

I honestly can't remember the last time I lost the chain.

Last week for me with a perfect functioning mech + NW combination. Only the top guide kept it from dropping completely


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:34 pm
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but it's always been really bloody annoying

as annoying as jamming a chain into the guts of a chainguide and having to disassemble it to free it? because that's what I remember from chainguides...


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:43 pm
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No clutch mech as of yet. The plan was to just take the big and small chain ring off leave the middle and throw a top only chain guide on, no ISCG on the frame. So need either bb or post mount until the rear mech needs changing.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 4:47 pm
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@marc, definitely get a narrow/wide then, it is honestly far better than a standard ring and a chain device. A clutch mech is a nice addition but the ring is doing all the hard work.


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as annoying as jamming a chain into the guts of a chainguide and having to disassemble it to free it? because that's what I remember from chainguides...

That is a pain in the baws too but these wee minimal things should, hopefully, avoid that. They're just holding the chain onto the ring essentially rather than trying to really muscle it. More of a nudge than a shove


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 7:04 pm
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I use Blackspire and replace the big ring wth a bash guard (works on older bikes as I had that on my 2007 Reign) I can't afford to take the small ring off as I'd never get up anything remotely steep or technical.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 7:08 pm
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Can you buy the one up components one anywhere in the UK?
I can only see it in the U.S.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 8:04 pm
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@brickwizard - We ship UK shipments from our UK warehouse so prices include VAT and shipping is fast.

I hope that helps,
Jon @ OneUp


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 9:22 pm
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I've got one of these,
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Sold by Superstar and unbranded on ebay etc..

They keep the chain on 99% of the time but on 3 occasions I've crashed and the chain has jammed half in/half out of the guide and it's impossible to put back. Major ball ache stripping the guide at the side of the trail.

I'm going to get a fat/skinny ring and bin this thing.


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 9:43 pm
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Cheers guy thanks for the help!!


 
Posted : 05/10/2015 10:12 pm
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I have one of these, and have to say it is pretty good!
http://www.oneupcomponents.com/


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 2:29 pm
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Raceface N/W for me recently, no chain device, no clutch mech... I've not lost the chain once.


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 2:41 pm
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Had no issue with the Superstar cheap one on my old bike.

Same as my experience.
Since gone clutch mech and n/w - and as it's mostly XC round my way, had no issues.

Let me know if you want one of the superstar ones - happy to let it go for a few quid.

Jim


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 3:01 pm
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A chain device on a NW set-up is supposed to lengthen the life of the drive train as a whole. I am not too clear how, but it is supposed to save you money on new chains ect......

Any thoughts?


 
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Any thoughts?

Sounds like marketing bollocks


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 3:45 pm
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"Eliminate dropped chains forever and more than double your chainring life with the new OneUp Components Chainguide.

How can I double my chainring life?

As a Narrow Wide ring wears, over time the teeth thin and loose their chain retention ability, leading to more dropped chains. The OneUp guide extends NW ring life by limiting the chains side-to-side movement reducing the NW tooth wear and totally preventing the chain from derailing. Installing a OneUp guide means you now only have to replace your chainring when the driving faces have worn out, which typically doubles your usable chainring life. Buy less stuff - Work Less Ride More."


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 3:55 pm
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its marketing BS. it "doubles chain life" by effectively holding the chain on to the chainring once the ring is knackered and no longer capable of holding the chain on its own.

no miraculous halving of the wear rate..


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 4:31 pm
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i use a superstar bb mounted guide, and a dmr seat-tube clamp to hold the guide in place.

cheap and effective.


 
Posted : 06/10/2015 4:35 pm
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Thanks for the help guys! I have a superstar NW chainring ordered and getting a mrp 1x off a friend, hopefully it will keep the chain on until I purchase a clutch mech!


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 11:01 pm