Just been to hospital for a tetanus boost jab and a course of antibiotics, have two nasty puncture holes in my calf, the worst of which is an inch deep and will leave a crater like scar. The doctor was adamant I should contact the police as it could have been a child.
The dog sprinted out of a farmhouse yard into the road and just bit me, no provocation, no warning. There was a bit of an argument with a young girl who owned it and in the end she said come in my mum's a nurse she will treat it. A few minutes later the girls younger sister came in with two plasters and said mum said she's not coming down. She also rang her father who also had no interest in speaking to me
Everyone involved was shocked by the larger wound, the elder girl then said something about the road being private and there were signs. There were no signs and we are quite sure the area where the attack was is not a private road, it's also a public footpath.
I feel sorry for the kids in a way as I don't really want their dog taken away however its hurt me and in all fairness it's extremely dangerous so reporting it may do somebody else a favour in the long run.
Im most angry with the patents of the girls as they didn't seem at all bothered and more so that the mother was a nurse.
The doctor said I'd be referred to a plastic surgeon if it were my face which makes me think I should report it, the other side is I think the younger sister may blame herself if the dogs taken away as she 'let him out'.
But if your kid was next and ended up needing plastic surgery it wouldnt be much of an excuse would it?
Report it to the police have it put down , no excuses dogs shouldn't be biting anyone if they are trained properly, especially as you know where they live report it now and consider having it put down if need be, as if it's done it once it'll do it again and like you say could be a child next, I've had it before and unfortunately I was in the middle of no where and the **** wouldn't give me her name and address , had no choice but to leave it, same shit excuse that it doesn't like 'bikes' dog was off its lead etc, absolutely no excuses
Should have given it a kick in the head vicious little shite
[b]Definitely report it, that is horrendous! [/b]
Report it to the police - for all you know the police may have had previous complaints.
Report it. The little girl won't have time to feel guilty if the dog rips her face off.
At the end of the day it's only a dog not worth risking a child/anyone being seriously injured or killed.
as wurzle says with it being at the address it may well have it noted down that it's done it before
I feel sorry for decent dog owners, but unfortunately any dog off its lead when I'm riding I'm skeptical it's gone bite and have my size 10s at the ready
I agree with the report it sentiment, the dog could well be dangerous to others.
However - anyone who says "it's only a dog" makes me very angry.
A life is a life and is not for anyone to treat with such disrespect. Whether it's a dog, Ant or child we should never be so glib about the taking of ANY life.
Please tread with respect in this world - we all share it.
But definitely report this incident.
You must report it!
However - anyone who says "it's only a dog" makes me very angry.
Absolutely. Obviously the owners need to be aware of the problem, and if they don't care, they should be dealt with. But it's the potentially extreme consequences of reporting it that would put me off, because at the end of the day, it's not really the dog's fault. Anyone who says 'it's only a dog', or 'have it put down' deserves to be put down more than the dog, imo.
Dog lover and owner here - definitely report it
Report but appreciate that a lot of dogs go for cyclists, unlikely to be a link to it going for children imo. There's a farm dog near me that's drawn blood after it went for my ankle twice now, only a nipper terrier but the owners say it's done it before. I did say they could train/tie it up/etc and if it went for me again it'd have to be reported, but I like animals generally and would rather they sorted it than 'the authorities'. If there's a right of way across a farm the dog will get territorial but the owners have responsibilities too.
If you're on wheels, dogs go for you. Get off the bike and they usually lose interest.
Haha it's not the dogs fault? Niceeeee some dog owners really are blinkered about their pets
Some dogs are great, some are vicious some can turn vicious out of the blue, if it's not dealt with just keep letting them do it? Great solution
If it bites someone it should be punished or the owners should simple as that
It's a dog at the end of the day, and It shouldn't be biting anyone and getting away with it
Ps I've had loads of dogs in the past I'm just not blinkered about them if they can bite once they can do it again and probably have done
What's the solution? A telling off and a treat after you've told it off?
Butcher don't report it brecause the dog may suffer as a result? Seriously???? Wow
Report it, dogs shouldn't go for cyclists or anyone for that matter, train it, get it used to these things FFS.
Dog owner, unprovoked attack, private property or not gets a jab from the vets no question.
I will report it tomorrow, I answered my own question in the first post really but it's all a bit of a shock, me being me I cant help feel sorry for the kids but then again as someone mentioned it could be her next.
I'd normally say just give the dog a kick myself, im young fit and I've foght professionally but I was helpless today, the speed and power of a large dog is unbelievable, I was genuinely shocked by its power, I can honestly say bike or not I don't believe I'd have fought off a sustained attack, anyway I'll ring up tomorrow
Right so I'm evil for saying it's only a dog but in the next sentence I deserve to be put down 🙄
I like dogs but attacking people = get rid of dog. No other way to deal with it dogs aren't going to learn from owners being fined etc
Sounds like a big dog them, the kick only really works on the yappy little shit ones, big dogs are a different matter, not much you can do to fend them off if your on a bike
Good on ya reporting it leave it up to the powers that be to decide its fate, they may well think it's dangerous themselves if they visit the address in question
What's made it worse is the clear lack of care by the girls parents and dog owner, that in itself tells me everything I need to know about them as dog owners
where was this wasnt of the rainford by pass by any chance
tbf sounds like more than a terrier nip and if it's a big, powerful dog I'd take it more seriously.
Wiggles that's singletrack for ya 😉 and some blinkered dog owners that somehow make it out to be your fault you get bitten by them 🙄
Similar situation a while ago, I got bitten and dragged off my bike by a small dog which also pulled its owner over into the road because it was on a lead.
I ended up with puncture wounds to my thigh and a few scuffs, so had a tetanus then nipped into the police station to report it.
Two very pleasant police chaps came round and took a report, and I had a chat with British Cyclings insurance company.
Basically the Police suggested that I could press charges, and that the dog may well be put down, and the insurance company said it was my choice whether or not to press for damages, the permanent scarring would mean a payout of £1500 or so.
So I could have really spoiled someone's Christmas.
I didn't do any of the above, I asked the police to go round and have a word with the owner and left it at that.
4 years on, I met the owner by chance outside her house and asked if she still had the dog. She said that she had it put down because she was about to go into sheltered accommodation and couldn't take it with her, and that was one of the shortest, saddest conversations I've ever had.
Think on...
I am not a dog owner or lover but I do not bear it any animosity whatsoever, I don't feel my situation should be punishable by its death, on the other hand if I felt it's owner's were slightly bothered it would be different, they obviously don't care there dogs bitten someone, it's not about me getting payback it's just what could be next if that makes sense. My grievance is with its owners
If my dog bit anybody it would be put down immediately. Report it and ensure that it is followed up. Get in touch with solicitors and sue the owners. Hit them in the pockets.
The owners are a disgrace, unfortunately doesn't help the dogs case does it 🙁
At least if they were apologetic you can give it the benefit of the doubt if its the first time it's done it, even with reporting it, but what chance does the dog have if it's owners couldn't give two shites?
Owners and dogs fault I have no sympathy regardless of outcome, if the owners are like that the dog has no chance of changing as they clearly don't care
Sets a great example to their daughters too 🙄
Make that phone call now.
Take care of yourself.
I'd put on my nicest, smilest face and go back and try to have a quick chat with the actual owners of the dogs (the grown ups). Give them a chance. See what they say. If they are total t**ts about it, then yes, straight to the Police on the way home.
Don't be confrontational, or argumentative, just say "i'm concerned, because i don't want it to happen to anyone else, especially not a child"
Make it clear you're not after money/compensation etc, just you have concern that they need to control there dog a bit better.
See how it goes, then make a judgement call.
It needs reporting tonight.... Not tomorrow.
Dog owner and lover here, I say report it. Aggressive doge should be under control and unable to get into situations whereby they can harm people.
It's awful to me to think that the dog could be destroyed because of its actions but at the end of the day if it's a choice between that or the chance of someone getting even more seriously injured than you were, I know what I think is best.
I'd be absolutely devastated if I was in the same position as that dogs owner but they should not have left the dog any way to do what it did.
The owners should be punished severely though, it is their actions that have led to the dog behaving in that manner. Shame they can't be put to sleep, they made the dog that way, it is just acting in the manner it thinks is appropriate.
Owners like that give those of us who care how their dogs act around others a bad time of it sometimes...
Dog attack = police
You are not responsible for the outcome so stop worrying.
Report it. Sorry if my old dog bit someone unprovoked I'd be apologetic beyond belief. Their response scares me.
JAG - MemberA life is a life and is not for anyone to treat with such disrespect. Whether it's a dog, Ant or child we should never be so glib about the taking of ANY life.
How about a tapeworm?
Fleas?
Lice?
And who was being glib?
I love dogs and am a dog owner, and I'd say you need to report it ASAP. It doesn't matter if it 'only' goes for cyclists, or other dogs, or children, or men with beards - if it's in a public place or on a public right of way, it needs to be under control, and certainly not be attacking!
The owners' response is also pretty unforgivable, and doesn't exactly inspire confidence that it won't happen again. Dog ownership is fantastic, but it's a privilege that comes with responsibilities, both to the dog and to other people.
I've had to report the same jack Russell/ staffy cross down the road to the dog warden twice because of him attacking our dog, and he's now got to be muzzled in public. I imagine any attack that involves drawing the blood of a human will be taken more seriously.
The owner is acting cowardly as he was obviously worried about getting thumped. It's also possible that this wasn't the first time the dog had bitten. He needs to face up to the responsibility of dog ownership but could be too late for that.
I would double-check that the track you were using was definitely a public right of way.
Report it they don't automatically destroy dogs for biting people so this may be enough that they keep the dog under better control next time.
What's the problem? Report it. It's a dangerous animal masquerading as a fluffy family pet. The sooner it's put down the better!
Report it, the very least the owner can do is ensure the fence, gate is in place to stop it running after cyclists. I agree some dogs will chase but that isn't your problem, well it is if they bite you, but it is the owners responsibility to ensure the dog can not chase and be dangerous.
I have often passed farm yards and the farm collies will chase on its side of the fence, which is fine.
That the owners didn't come to check is not a good sign!!
Someone more vunerable, a lady, oap or child walking their dog passed would probably receive the same attention from that dog defending its perceived territory.
Get it reported tonight. Why are you waiting?
As above its the owners lack of action that is worrying, but then not surprising as it is not dogs that are bad, its an issue with the owner that makes them a poorly behaved / dangerous dog.
Just ring 101 for non emergency Police.
Dont bother report it it only bit you,youre not badly hurt, just some small wounds,perhaps take the dog a toy to play with as a sign of forgivness.
and then a few days later you hear of a small child, adult or other dog bing badly bitten by an out of control owner who obviuosly doesnt care less for his dog , then how will you feel all for the sake of a free phone call.
Shoot it! It's the only way it'll learn. Actually.... Perhaps all dogs should be pre-emptively shot? Just to be on the safe side? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Perhaps all dog owners should be pre-emptively bitten? 🙂
My solution:
A written test to see if you're capable of understanding how to look after a dog.
Dog licence - fee based on weight/size of dog.
Compulsory chipping.
Compulsory training, paid for by the owner - keep retaking the course until you and the dog pass.
Destruction of all strays - 3 strikes and you're out, just to take into account dogs slipping away from owners.
Destuction of all dogs who have been reported for attacking people.
Significant fines for fouling.
We'd have fewer dogs. But the ones we did have would be happy and well looked after.
If it bites someone it should be punished
You really don't understand dog psychology.
Anyway. As said above, you need to report it so that it's raised as an issue that needs to be dealt with.
I work with dogs, and have trained lots of dogs. I'm starting a training school next year also, and my recommendation to police would be one to one training sessions mandated to the owners for 6 months.
The biting is a reaction to something as a trigger, its pretty simple to replace the reaction the dog demonstrates, but unless the owners are made aware of how serious an issue it is the dog cannot be helped.
Essentially the dog would be frightened, which leads to fear, which leads to a desire to act first. He needs desensitising, which can be done with the vast majority of dogs, it just needs time and patience.
Reporting it to the police is the best thing for everyone, you, the family and the dog. You may stop it from hurting others, and you could stop it from the dog actually ending up being put down.
[QuoteJAG] - Member
A life is a life and is not for anyone to treat with such disrespect. Whether it's a dog, Ant or child we should never be so glib about the taking of ANY life.
How about a tapeworm?
Fleas?
Lice?
And who was being glib?
EXACTLY
Lots of animals are killed for much less serious reasons, being tasty for example.
I'm not a horrible animal hating bastard, I have never owned a dog but often look after them for friends, including a guide dog who was attacked by an out of control dog and had to be put down as a result of the injuries.
Also my son was attacked very nearly bitten by a large dog when he was a 6month old baby.
So have just lost all my sympathy for incompetent dog owners.
Also, please ignore the posts above that are being rather disrespectful to dogs in general.
Dogs are like people in many ways, some are nice, some are horrible. And in 99% of cases its due to how they were brought up.
Horrible children generally have parents that are horrible to them, or neglectful. Its the same with dogs.
Don't blame them for how someone has neglected them, help them. I do.
Maybe the owners should be shot, if their mutt bites someone?
binners - MemberMaybe the owners should be shot, if their mutt bites someone?
Nah.
Just prosecuted for failing to control their animal.
It's the dog who should be destroyed.
6,447 people were admitted to hospital for dog bites in 2011-12
1040 of those were under 10.
Acceptable?
Still missing the point.
All that's required is the owners to understand there is a real issue with their dog, and to deal with it through training. That would actually fix the problem for that dog, and hopefully all dogs they would then own.
Given they live on a farm, they're likely to continue to own dogs. So it would make sense.
They may be lovely people, just bad dog owners.
A dog only understands the boundaries that have been set for it by the owners, if the owners don't know what these are, or how to do this, then the dog is doomed to fail.
A lack of knowledge, or understand can be a dangerous thing.
Anyway. As said above, you need to report it so that it's raised as an issue that needs to be dealt with.
as does the owner
I work with dogs, and have trained lots of dogs. I'm starting a training school next year also, and my recommendation to police would be one to one training sessions mandated to the owners for 6 months.The biting is a reaction to something as a trigger, its pretty simple to replace the reaction the dog demonstrates, but unless the owners are made aware of how serious an issue it is the dog cannot be helped.
Essentially the dog would be frightened, which leads to fear, which leads to a desire to act first. He needs desensitising, which can be done with the vast majority of dogs, it just needs time and patience.
Reporting it to the police is the best thing for everyone, you, the family and the dog. You may stop it from hurting others, and you could stop it from the dog actually ending up being put down
like this dog? http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/owner-pleads-guilty-after-dog-6388597
the lovely bit about this story is that the owner did a runner only handing himself in when his picture was published by the MEN
“What's shocking is that when I was in hospital three out of the four beds had people with dog attacks in. One had had his ear bitten off.
be careful out there
Aaaaaaaawwwwww - can we not shoot them?! Go on!!
I thought it wouldn't be long before the dog kissers arrived!
call them up and tell them that you cycle past there all the time, and if it happens again you'll report it....
Next time you go past see if there is still a crazy hound on the loose. You never know this might be well out of character for the dog, and despite what people say he might not be the crazy devil hound that people have assumed.
rickon - MemberStill missing the point.
All that's required is the owners to understand there is a real issue with their dog, and to deal with it through training. That would actually fix the problem for that dog, and hopefully all dogs they would then own.
So how do you propose we bring this about?
Report it to the police. The courts can impose such an action.
No second chances, that is a horrendous idea, what if it had been a child cycling past!? Im not saying it should just be shot but things need assessing now.
Simple answer, ban ALL dogs of a certain type and size, akitas, alsatians, dobermans etc etc unless you are a skilled dog handler and can prove it.
Society in the uk is getting out of control with crap dog culture, i love dogs, will likely have one in the near future but not some stupidly large or specifically bred dangerous abomination. (Just how many of these animals were bred for protection or fighting? - f@@king mental that we now buy them as family pets!)
rickon - MemberReport it to the police. The courts can impose such an action.
Not working very well, is it, seeing as dog attacks are increasing?
Do we have any figures regarding this court imposed action?
How many reported?
Action taken, etc?
binners - Member
Aaaaaaaawwwwww - can we not shoot them?! Go on!!
Go on then.
But only if you promise not to enjoy it.
I'll check you know.
I know someone who's dog own attacked her three year old child; causing serious facial damage that required complex surgery. Fortunately, ten years later, the child now has minimal scarring. So what did she do about her dog?
I'm glad you asked? She spent over £1500 on classes to train the dog not to do this naughty thing again. Me? I'd have killed the ****ing dog with the nearest sharp pointed instrument I could lay my hands on!
I got bitten by two Rottweilers not all that long ago, public footpath ran through someone's garden and although it warned of dogs running free it mentioned nothing about them biting. The woman's reply when I confronted her was pathetic and could tell it had happened before and being as I had my sixty year old mum in the car with my own dog I reported it immediately as if either of them had come with me it could of been much worse. They came out to my house and took the statement and I basically said I didn't want it going further than the police going round and having a serious word with them about it. Definitely report it but more than that is your decision to make.
Go on then.
But only if you promise not to enjoy it.
Dont trust him he will make a pie with them
As for OP report for the offence and get the firmest actions given the owners complete and utter lack of GAS over an actual wound that required treatment and leaving it to small kids to deal with - that probably tells you all you need to know how about seriously they take responsibility!
The insane thing is, if a person ran out of the house, down the road and started smacking seven bells of crap out of someone they would be in court for assault or worse....
How some people can even consider it would be OK for a dog to do this is beyond me.
I can only see this problem growing too as dogs become more popular, something needs to be done. What was the last one that made the papers? A dead pregnant woman at the hand of a dog.... mental.
The insane thing is, if a person ran out of the house, down the road and started smacking seven bells of crap out of someone they would be in court for assault or worse....How some people can even consider it would be OK for a dog to do this is beyond me.
+1
Report it for all of the above reasons...needs putting down!
OP - What did the Police say last night when you reported it?
Bitten once by nasty collie outside farm cottages. It had 'never bitten anyone before'. Aye right. Police very involved. Went to court. Got compensation 'offer' -- which I sent to SSPCA.
Apparently it then bit someone else - or a different collie did. Not sure of the outcome there but not good. I'd be kicking up stink with the owners to be honest, dogs aren't the problem, just the symptom.
Fact that the parent didn't come down, despite being a nurse, is ringing all sorts of bells..
The insane thing is, if a person ran out of the house, down the road and started smacking seven bells of crap out of someone they would be in court for assault or worse....How some people can even consider it would be OK for a dog to do this is beyond me.
+2
My three year old daughter was knocked off her balance bike by a dog yesterday. The owner said "Oh dear, I thought he might do that" - Well why the **** didn't you put him on a lead then?!! 👿
To be honest, the vast majority of dog owners I encounter are responsible owners, with fairly well behaved dogs, but there's that tiny minority that boil my p**s 👿
Burn it's kennel down. Only language that sort understands!
Report it. It's far from certain that the dog would be destroyed on this occasion, but the owners definitely need a bollocking ASAP.
Any chance you can give me the address? I'll round up a load of kids and take them up there for a good old feast. I ****ing hate kids.
How some people can even consider it would be OK for a dog to do this is beyond me.
Who said that?
Two puncture wounds = not an aggressive bite. More like puncture wound from the canines resulting from a chase and grab response. A proper bite would leave you with a chunk of calf missing. (The long canines are the reason why dogs often pop cheap plastic footballs.)
It shouldn't have happened and it could have been a child, but I wouldn't say the dog was dangerous, you and it were just unlucky.
I'm glad you asked? She spent over £1500 on classes to train the dog not to do this naughty thing again. Me? I'd have killed the ****ing dog with the nearest sharp pointed instrument I could lay my hands on!
Yeah but you're one of those simple reactionary types who only does things to make themselves feel better.
[i]Two puncture wounds = not an aggressive bite[/i]
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I suspect, for the recipient, being bitten [i]feels[/i] quite aggressive.
But no, they should be grateful it was just a playful nip and they've not lost half their calf.
A predatory response in a dog which is capable of leaving an inch-deep puncture wound makes it dangerous in my book, whatever the technical definition of the term. It was certainly dangerous to the OP, he will be left with scarring, and will quite likely be dangerous to the next cyclist who heads up that way.
pondo - Member
How some people can even consider it would be OK for a dog to do this is beyond me.Who said that?
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I_did_dab - Member
Two puncture wounds = not an aggressive bite. More like puncture wound from the canines resulting from a chase and grab response. A proper bite would leave you with a chunk of calf missing. (The long canines are the reason why dogs often pop cheap plastic footballs.)
It shouldn't have happened and it could have been a child, but I wouldn't say the dog was dangerous, you and it were just unlucky.POSTED 8 MINUTES AGO #
aaah.. the sweet irony of these comments being posted at exactly the same moment 😀
the dog is a ****..
I like dogs and consequently am concerned that if this isn't reported an innocent dog could be killed by this dangerous one at some point in the future. The behaviour of its owners doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it?
Don't see what the issue is? Chicks dig scars...
"Oh this?! I was attacked by a shark when i was surfing off the coast of Australia... Oh my, your pants have fallen off!"
Sorry to lower this debate to a question but, what would happen if the incident got reported, the dog got put down? Would the owners automatically be banned from keeping dogs? I sense not. Didn't I hear that dog laws are being tightened up? Anyone know what was included in that proposal?
Glad you've reported it. Have the dog put down and hopefully it will teach another inconsiderate dog owner a lesson at the same time. I feel sorry for the animal having to have such an inconsiderate owner.
I would also try and peruse them for an much costs as humanly possible.
I_did_dab - MemberTwo puncture wounds = not an aggressive bite. More like puncture wound from the canines resulting from a chase and grab response. A proper bite would leave you with a chunk of calf missing. (The long canines are the reason why dogs often pop cheap plastic footballs.)
It shouldn't have happened and it could have been a child, but I wouldn't say the dog was dangerous, you and it were just unlucky.
You know the test and training I proposed for prospective dog owners?
It would be designed to weed out people like you, who should never, ever be allowed to own a dog.
Eerily similar to the dog bite thread last week with someone claiming that the dog that bit that OP wasn't "out of control", it was just "not under control". Which are totally different things.
Someone will be along to say the dog was just playing with the OP and the OP must have upset it by looking at it funny, or breathing, or blinking..... 🙄