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I'm thinking of getting one of these as I don't have a garage and can no longer justify keeping 3 bikes in the house.
My concern on reading the dimensions of the 2x and 3x bike units is that they aren't big enough to store either my bike or my wife's without removing the front wheels, despite all the pictures of happy folk putting their full bike in. The internal dimensions of the 3x say 5'7" width but my mountain bike (large frame vitus nucleus 27.5" wheels) is over 6' long and my wife's hybrid (small frame Liv 29" wheels) is 5'10' long.
Does anyone have any real world experience of these sheds and fitting bikes in them? I don't have a problem with removing wheels to fit stuff in but I'd like to confirm that's the case. It would seem strange for an expensive unit designed for bikes to not be big enough, unless I just happen to own weirdly large bikes.
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Posted : 12/08/2020 11:08 pm
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I've had mine for 5 years, so they may not do the same dimensions today, when I got it they called it 7'x4'. I've had a large 650b FS, large 29er FS and a fat bike in there, plus cycling kit. It can take a bit of juggling to initially get them to fit (such as long handlebars hitting the roof) but once you work out the correct order and follow the pattern it's simple to get them in and out.
Great bit of kit and good company to deal with.
Budget another £60-70 for two high spec Abus Diskus padlocks and consider a chain and anchor inside.


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 8:28 am
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I've got one of their 'sheds' and it's really good kit, so you could go for a bigger 'shed' rather than 'bike shed'. The only downside is that it's built for shortarses! If you are anything close to 5'10"+ then you'll have to duck to get in every time. I've ply-lined mine down one side, and fitted bike hooks to stack the bikes in (one upright, one on the floor, alternating).


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 8:36 am
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I’ve got the “approved” 3 bike one - gravel bike goes in fine but both the hard tail and the big bike need to have the wheels off

They all fit in tho - and I’m hoping with some care it’ll also fit the wife’s eBike


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 8:45 am
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Thanks. Yes tmb467 it's the approved 3x I'm looking at.
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Which you can see is full of fully assembled bikes. Good to know they won't fit larger bikes without the wheel off.

Weirdly, the 2x has slightly larger internal dims of 5'11' so maybe that's the one to go for despite the awkward end door.
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Posted : 13/08/2020 9:52 am
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i've got the 4 bike storage shed that designed for 29'ers. there not a chance you cold fit 4 29" enduro bikes in there, but i can get my 27.5" XL bronson and 29" L ebike in there at a slight angle no problems. with a bit of careful re-arrangement i could probably squeeze another smaller bike in there too, but would be very much bike jenga and a pain


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 9:58 am
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with the front wheels off, the only thing to watch out for is handlebar length but the bikes can be angled either upside down or upright. tbh, even if they went in with the wheels on, I'd probably struggle with the wide bars

When I went to see them in Leeds before I bought it, they just said that they used some employees bikes to work out how many would go in and badged them as such. And any employee who turned up there on an expensive bike would probably have had it taken off em on their way home!


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 11:42 am
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We've got a 29er version, think it's around 5 years old.

I normally have a large-sized 29er Commencal Meta TR29 in there, along with a 26" hardtail and a road bike. In the past I've had the hardtail in there (with bars twisted to the side) and 3 road bikes.

Bar width on modern mountain bikes is the main issue, rather than wheelbase. I wouldn't fancy more than 2 large MTB's in ours if you want to avoid damage. Depends how precious you are I guess, I hate storage damage, trail scuffs are fine weirdly.


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 12:24 pm
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depending where you are, a neighbour (near Edinburgh) is selling this:

https://singletrackworld.com/classifieds/advert/asgard-shed/

I have the 4 bike shed, and I can fit 4 bikes in but both me and the missus have size small bikes. One (rarely used) has the front wheel off and bars turned which makes a big difference to make it easier. If I had med-large 29ers, I think t would be a struggle.


 
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I have the 4 bike 29er version.  I keep a Geometron and a similarly proportioned hardtail in there.  Even with only two bikes they have to be arranged just right mostly due to the width and height of the bars.  I have the wooden floor in mine and sometimes consider removing it or cutting wheel slots in it to gain a bit of height.

I also have the shelves either end and these are great for storing more ‘stuff’


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 12:47 pm
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Thanks for all the replies. Will probably proceed with the purchase...... Just got to sort out a level concrete base now lol.


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 12:57 pm
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I've got the 2x one with the end door (only one that would fit in our front "garden")

it fits 2 drop bar bikes fine. Anything with wide bars would be annoying to take in and out. As you said annoying end door.


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 1:11 pm
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I've got the Metal Bike Shed for 29ers which is supposed to hold 4 but is a faff to get my 3 29ers and a 700cc bike with narrow bars in. Similar to tents, it is probably best to size up by 1 of the claimed capacity otherwise it is a tight squeeze


 
Posted : 13/08/2020 1:17 pm
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Bikes get shorter (but wider) if you turn the handlebars/front wheel. So my full suss, 27.5 wheeled bike fits in the one you're looking at (I have it), but you have to turn the bars/front wheel. Slightly faffy getting it in and out but nothing major.


 
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Just an update if anyones interested.
Took delivery of my shed this week. Went up easy enough, very satisfied. I got the 4x "access" version in ivory.

Id already poured a concrete slab to provide a stable, level base to secure it to. This also meant I didnt need to use any shims to get the lid to close properly.

slab

Heres the finished item.

shed

kinda swallows my large Vitus nucleus VRS (27.5), but I have 2 other bikes to fit in.....

bike

next job is to install a floor anchor, some insualtion and a floor of some kind...


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 1:52 pm
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Why install insulation, are you planning on sleeping in it? The bikes and shed need a bit of air. I'm not sure of the benefit of a floor either. I never bothered with one.

Remember to paint the holes for the ground anchor with an appropriate anti-rust treatment. It's a requirement of the warranty.


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 2:49 pm
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insulation will keep condensation down on the metal surfaces


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 4:02 pm
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I've never had condesation inside mine in 5 years. Save yourself the hassle.


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 4:48 pm
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I’ve got the 29er 4 bike one and it’s great. Doesn’t get condensation so no insulation unless you plan to live in it.


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 5:18 pm
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Done it anyway, thin sheets of underlay stuck on with contact adhesive. wasnt really a hassle and at the very least will stop the metal work getting dinged 🙂


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 5:52 pm
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I have the 3 ebike version so far has an ebike a fat bike and a tourer in with no problems
https://www.asgardsss.co.uk/access-e-plus


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 8:21 pm
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Looks good.
My Trojan gets condensation in winter.
Lots of large droplets on the roof mainly that fall down onto the bikes and floor.
Keep meaning to do something about it.
Be interested to know if what you've done helps.

I guess I don't always or maybe ever put the bikes away bone dry, but that's pretty difficult on a freezing December evening when it's dark and sipping down!


 
Posted : 05/12/2020 8:28 pm
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How safe are these sheds and has anyone been able to fit a ground anchor to one? im going to have to move my bikes outside soon and am looking for something to store them in.


 
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I guess I don’t always or maybe ever put the bikes away bone dry, but that’s pretty difficult on a freezing December evening when it’s dark and sipping down!

this was my reasoning. I insulate my normal wooden sheds to keep moisture down, so think it makes even more sense in a metal shed, during cold weather, where im going to be putting damp bikes in. Ill see how it goes. It is well ventilated on all sides, which is what they recommend, so im probably over egging the pudding lol.

Heres the shed with the underlay lining, bout an hours work 🙂

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How safe are these sheds and has anyone been able to fit a ground anchor to one?

Theyre a fairly heavy metal construction, with no external fasteners, which can be bolted down to a base. The lid is locked with 2 big circular padlocks protected by metal shrouds. The ground anchor is optional and does invalidate the warranty on the base panel (not the rest) as youre modifying it, but it will be an extra piece of mind.
I cant comment on how safe theyll be yet, but clearly theyre pretty tough and would make a would be thief think twice, which is half the battle since theyre usually opportunists. It would take some serious power tools and time to break in, which would likely draw attention, but it could be done, no system is unbreakable. Asgard do also make police approved sheds too which are even tougher.
Ultimately my hands were tied since I needed the bikes out the house, I dont have a garage and needed somewhere safer than my shed.

Im going to put a floor down so I can shake out the muck that will likely accumulate. Asgard do offer an optional plywood floor base, but it would be cheaper to get one cut at bnq. Im probably getting some simple workshop foam matting.


 
Posted : 06/12/2020 10:28 am
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Ultimately my hands were tied since I needed the bikes out the house, I dont have a garage and needed somewhere safer than my shed.

Yeh, this is exactly where I am am. If I had my way the bikes would stay inside. But long term once a kiddie comes a long they will be outside. Cheers for the comments though!


 
Posted : 06/12/2020 10:58 am
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Ten year warranty is not affected when fitting a ground anchor if you paint the holes with a rust inhibitor

From their warranty page:

If you choose to fit a ground anchor. You MUST treat the fixing point area with a rust inhibitor.

I asked them what product to use and they recommend kurust from hammerite.


 
Posted : 06/12/2020 11:10 am
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I've had the same 4 bike access version, but in green, for over ten years now and it's still in perfect condition. I just empty it and jet wash it inside and out every so often, you'd think it was new!

Bought a ground anchor to go in it but I never got round to fitting it, not really sure it needs it. Same with the floor, thought about putting one in but seems a waste of space really, with the added hassle that it could tap water and crap under it from the bikes. No insulation either, never had condensation issues even with wet dirty bikes.

I've had 4 bikes in it (29er, 650b full sus, road bike and mates 26full sus) and it does become a game of jenga. I used to turn the bars 90deg on the bike at the back of it was staying there for some time. Currently has 2 bikes and my towbar rack in.

Without doubt the best fit and forget bike related purchase I've ever made, would recommend them to anybody.


 
Posted : 06/12/2020 11:43 am
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Ten year warranty is not affected when fitting a ground anchor if you paint the holes with a rust inhibitor

bit confusing that since on the ground anchor page they definitivelty say it will invalidate the warranty even with rust inhibitor, ie the rust inhibitor is just expected as part of normal maintenance..

From the anchor page:

*Please note to fit a ground anchor to an Asgard shed you will need to drill through the metal base. Please be aware that doing so will invalidate your warranty. Once the panel has been drilled through, please use a rust inhibitor to re-seal the steel.

and from the faqs:

However, please note that drilling through the base of the bike shed will result in the 10-year warranty becoming invalid on that panel as it has been modified. We recommend to treat the area around the holes with a rust inhibitor to protect against any rust over time.


 
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I've got an email from them from 5 years ago indicating no issue with warranty when fitting an anchor.
Though looking at it now, it still looks brand new. I doubt they get many warranty claims. Maybe if you live next to the sea with frequent waves coming over it might rust, but otherwise the thing's likely to be it top nick well into its 2nd decade.


 
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In answer to how safe they are, we have the 29er. It's pretty solid and looks safe - double locks etc... But unfortunately it's not. Not even vaguely secure. On our CCTV, we have footage of 2 young lads at 6am in the morning, one with a torch and one with a some cutters. Took them just over 4 minutes to get in, then they pinched all 4 bikes.

I won't say what the weak spot is on the forum, but when you see the CCTV it's actually very very obvious.. Really annoying. We had the police round who said they've seen quite a few cases of this recently on Asgard sheds. clearly, the words getting round that they're easy pickings, and since they're expensive, there's likely to be a nice bike inside.


 
Posted : 18/02/2021 8:29 pm
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Is the weakness on the normal and / or the extra secure version?


 
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The weakness is the padlocks which the extra secure version doesn't use. The supplied disk padlocks are not very strong. Much stronger versions are available from Abus, which would further slow the attack. It's then worth having the bikes chained to an anchor inside as your next layer of defence.
No solution is perfect, as with any security, you're just trying to make it simpler for the thief to steal from someone else.
* I wrote a different version of this post with much more detail (like steel thicknesses) but it sounded too much like a thieves handbook!


 
Posted : 19/02/2021 10:53 am
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Thanks, was interested as had put in an order for an Asgard yesterday morning.  I've gone for the extra secure version so good to hear.  Whichever way, it's better than the current set up.

Hoping to get 3 bikes into it, 2 drop bar and one MTB (which I'll remove the front wheel from anyway as it goes in and out of the car like that).


 
Posted : 19/02/2021 12:01 pm