[Closed] Are Roadies Odd?

But you could carry 2 tubes, a pump and a waterproof in your pockets, that's what I don't really get, why carry a huge Camelbak?

Pump is a mountain morph, so don't think it would fit in a pocket! I'm not convinced a smaller camelbak + jersey pockets is really much of an improvement over just a bigger bag, but I will experiment...

Kingust I guess you'll need to experiment going from 30°C to less than ten within minutes to guess the usefulness of a fleece (actually it even happened to me in the UK).

Maybe, CBA though.

[i]See my comment about what people think of you, to the public, you look stupid either way! [/i]

Indeed, and I'd rather look stupid and ne efficient on the bike than look stupid and have flapping shorts and a bag full of useless kit.

But you could carry 2 tubes, a pump and a waterproof in your pockets, that's what I don't really get, why carry a huge Camelbak?

I'd always ride with bottle(s) on the frame and stuff in my pockets by preference. However, there are two main reasons why I rarely do (offroad) - first getting bottles covered in mud/dog egg/crap/etc isn't particularly pleasant and a good route to a dose of the squits. Second, on anything longer than a couple of hours, I need more than a couple of bottles of water (and on my mtbs they only have bosses for one cage)

even when just carrying the basics on my mtb i find it to be less of a burden carrying stuff like phone, tube, pump, multitool etc in a camelbak than having pockets loaded up with all the stuff. On a road bike i prefer it the other way around though!

I have not read the whole thread but I am with kingtut ove rr the camelback thing - most MTBers carry ludicrous amounts of stuff.

Me - water - in bottle on frame, pump - on a frame clip, multitool / tube / puncture kit / spares in seatpouch. Food in jersey pockets as does a waterproof if i carry one - which I don't often do. Never needed more than this in decades of riding

I do occasionally carry a rucksac if going out into the wilds or riding in winter but I would much rather not do so.

Second, on anything longer than a couple of hours, I need more than a couple of bottles of water.

I guess it's down to individual need, I've ridden Skyline on 2 bottles in the Summer, although it wasn't that warm TBH.

Well you don't carry cake with you, you stop to eat cake and have some banter!

Eh? Sometimes there is no room for the pump or any water in the camelbak due to cake. Anyone not carrying cake on the Salisbury ride will be poked with a sharp stick and then flung from the Cathedral spire.

*this post contains several lies*

Indeed, and I'd rather look stupid and ne efficient on the bike than look stupid and have flapping shorts

Fair enough, though many of us are happy trading that 2mph for not having to wear tights in public.

[b]Juan[/b]:

Well i do carry a pump I just forget about it. Dear njee, considering that I was already mtbing while you were still w@nking over the lingerie pages of an argos catalogue and that I live on the Alps I think I am a bit better than you at arguing what is usefull on a MTB ride.

Just wanted to save that playground rebuttal for posterity.
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I'd hardly call a Camelbak Mule "huge." Unless it's full (rarely) I don't even know I have it on. It means I can carry a proper pump, decent multitool and all the other bits and bobs I need for a basic trail repair - and I've used them a few times and been very chuffed I've had them.

I'd be surprised if my pack weighs more than a kg and I'd rather have weight on myself than on my bike most of the time with an MTB.

I carry a pump, drinks bladder, tube, puncture kit, tool kit, spare mech hanger, spare cable, bit of old tyre, waterproof if it looks like rain, simple first aid kit, car keys, phone and food.

I have used all of this stuff over the years and I think it's the bare minimum, it does all fit in a little race pack I bought years back and I barely notice I'm wearing it.

I have never needed to walk back to the car!

I can't find the lingerie in my Argos catalogue. 😐

[i]Fair enough, though many of us are happy trading that 2mph for not having to wear tights in public. [/i]

I presume you mean longs. But anyway have you actually ridden on the road in baggies in the pissing rain and a soaking wet rucksack on your back?

Juan, you really do need to find a new drum to bang. Or do something useful and get a job.

I live on the Alps I think I am a bit better than you at arguing what is usefull on a MTB ride

Guess what, although he won the gorrick sport category, he manage to found use for knee pads

What the **** has his riding history got to do with anything!? Of course there's a case for knee pads, to suggest that I'm a better rider than many of the top downhillers in the world would be absurd, I just don't really see the point in the majority of locations.

Apologies people, as you were. Feel free to tell me what a hypocritical cock I am!

oldgit - Member

I can't find the lingerie in my Argos catalogue.

No but you used to get a naked women obscured by frosted glass in the shower door section..

**fap fap**

That'll do me 😆

I presume you mean longs. But anyway have you actually ridden on the road in baggies in the pissing rain and a soaking wet rucksack on your back?

Many many times. And?

Baggies (Endura Singletracks) are near enough waterproof as is the Camelbak.

Serious question... what do baggies actually offer over lycra? Is it just looking more 'normal'? I can sort of understand the fact they offer a mite more protection off road, but what about on road?

I did win a nice pair of Fox baggies a few weeks ago, which I guess I'll try, I just really don't see the point personally, even off road.

Looking more normal and they're more crash resistant.

Oh and they're more water resistant than lycra alone. I'll wear baggies if it's really wet out.

I'm sure someone will come up with much better, more spurious reasons though 🙂

They just look a bit more like normal human clothing.

Really? But they just soak up the water? I'd far rather just wear lycra if it's wet, unless it's cold as well, in which case I'd sooner wear waterproof over shorts or something.

Maybe I'll get my baggies out for the STW Surrey Hills ride on Sunday and see what the fuss is about!

I understand baggies are better if you're lacking in the trouser department, or worried about your sexuality.

njee - its more about lack of confidence / not needing the eye bleach / fashion.

If you see fat middleaged men in lycra you will understand. Or those smuggling budgies.

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Look how efficient they all look!

I can walk into normal shops anyway, safe in the knowledge that I look daft, that won't change with some more baggy clothing 🙂

If you have a problem with wearing lycra then don't, it's a free country.

I wear lycra on road because its more comfy, less noisy, more aerodynamic, lighter and I look sexy in it.

One of those reasons may have been a small fib.

Some people are different to you. Get over it. 8)

I don't think lycra vs normal shorts makes a massive difference in performance. Although I wear normal shorts from topman shorts, not baggy bike shorts.

I did try cycling shorts for a bit, and I didn't really find a noticeable speed difference. In winter I wear tightish tracksuit bottoms, cos they're dirt cheap, dry very quickly, and don't flap.

As for why, just because I can't be bothered having six different types of clothing - normal shorts are fine for pretty much all the outdoor activities I get up to (and I can wear the same type of shorts at work too). I also do a lot of my riding as transport, where it is handy to not be lycraed up for most journeys.

Joe

[i]Baggies (Endura Singletracks) are near enough waterproof as is the Camelbak.[/i]

Really?

I'd much rather wear lycra in the rain than heavy, flappy baggies for the sake of fashion or pleasing other people.

Mind you I'm not a fatty so I'm not bothered about people seeing me in lycra and cycling jersey.

i don't care what or how you carry stuff or how stupid you all look.

Yes you do!

I don't think lycra vs normal shorts makes a massive difference in performance. Although I wear normal shorts from topman shorts, not baggy bike shorts.

I really couldn't ride without padded shorts, that really is uncomfortable!

I must admit I've never really thought of performance advantages with lycra shorts, just see no reason not to, I'm not (too) fat, I'm riding a bike, I wear what makes the most sense for the situation!

You should try some Sombrio denim look waterproof baggies Gary -waterproof & I even got a compliment from [i]a non cyclist[/i]

[i]I don't think lycra vs normal shorts makes a massive difference in performance[/i]

mmm for a quick jaunt around the woods I can understand that, for a 100 mile ride then I'll stick with padded shorts.

[i]You should try some Sombrio denim look waterproof baggies Gary[/i]

Yeh I could but I don't see the point of them, on an mtb I understand and I waer baggies - more crash protection, better for pub stops. But on the road I don't see any point.

I've a pair of 3/4 waterproof baggies for REALLY wet muddy rides, and a pair of Singletracks (well the ones with the liner I forget the name of) for damp rides. The extra water resistant layer stops you getting a soaking arse from the get-go. Usually though I'd opt for lycra. I wear lycra on the road and the only thing in my jersey pockets is a phone and wallet/cash. Tube, Multi tool, Gel, Tyre Levers, in the saddlebag, small pump on downtube bottle cage mount. You barely notice it, though I'm considering trying CO2.
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Surely normal baggies are anything but waterproof though? Surely they absorb water, leaving you wetter than you would be with just lycra?

I've thought about getting some baggies now that I've put on a lot of weight in the last year, but they annoy me too much, although I do trundle into work in a pair of [i]Under The Weather[/i] short/longuns.
Its quite worrying, I've had to go up to a 30" waist and think about what happens when I reach 65kg. 🙁

The teflon treated nylon on my humvees (I looked them up) is pretty good at repelling water. Hardly like wearing thick cotton for example.

I would have thought any of these 'teflon' coated baggies would only be any good at repelling light rain, not keeping you dry in hours of heavy rain.

I have a pair of goretex waterproof shorts that are great in the rain but I still don't find any need for them on a road ride.

I'm not talking about wearing the teflon ones in heavy rain or on the road. I was just extolling their virtues off road. As I said, I've 3/4 waterproof shorts for when it's really pouring down.

Surfr - what bike and, more importantly, where's that then? 😀

2010 Kona Jake the Snake and the location is on the 'Joe's Back Yard' route near the Hyddgen Ford.

NE corner of this route
http://www.ystwyth-mtb.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=8

>The extra water resistant layer stops you getting a soaking arse

Ah, that's what crudcatchers are for.

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