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Kingtut - it's hard enough opening the bag (Topeak Aero Wedge) when I need it so "springing open" is not a problem. I don't like using jersey pockets - just feels wrong.
Not exactly. I did not anticipate the strong opinion, it was more of a gel vs cake comment gone wrong!
Maybe you should have entitled it "Is my mate odd?" in that case, the fact he rides a road bike is purely coincidental. Like has been mentioned before, some people are strange, some less so.
Still, I like cake. but, given the choice of carrying half a coffee and walnut in my back pocket or a couple of gels, I'd probably go with the gels too.
[i]Trouble with saddle bags is the chuffing things spring open and leave all you bits and bobs on the road / trail behind you.[/i]
I've never had an issue with a seat pack springing open, tube' tyre lever, co2 inflator, mini tool in that and mini pump and food, spare clothes (rain jacket or gilet) in jersey pockets. Phone and keys in zipped jersey pocket.
Never had an issue with co2 trapping the inner tube, do you know how to seat a tube properly.
when I'm on my road bike (even when I've got a peak!)
**shudders**
I quite enjoy going out on the club ride with hairy legs and a peaked helmet. But then I'm a right kinky mother....
I have a pal who's a die hard mountain biker, you know the type - unfit and doesn't really ride very often - and for some odd reason always goes out on his road bike, which he bought to try and improve his fitness, wearing his camelbak and 3/4 baggies. He doesn't need a camelbak, or the baggies as he only goes on short rides so it's not like he's gonna do a cafe stop but he seems to think it actually winds other 'roadies' up - it doesn't.
I find it odd that someone needs to behave like that.
[Never had an issue with co2 trapping the inner tube, do you know how to seat a tube properly.]
How very dare you 😡
It makes me chuckle going to trail centres, baggy short wearing guys with a rucksack as if youre off on a 3 month trek accross the jungle whilst wearing full wet weather gear when its sunny.
Its a trail centre for christ sake!
Agreed, I always wonder what people carry in these massive packs.
oldgit how very dare I indeed 😉
oldgit - Member
Have any roadies on here noticed that it's getting actually quite 'cool' to stop for food again.
I thought caff stops had always been in fashion? Maybe that's just me though... 🙂
clubber - Member
when I'm on my road bike (even when I've got a peak!)
If I take the peak off my helmet the sun gets in my eyes more and it looks like I've strapped a whale to my head (well, more so anyway), so I always use it. TBH I'm not sure where the "no peaks for road" convention came from? Is it just tradition?
I always wonder what people carry in these massive packs
Lots of water and lots of food in my case 🙂 I like/need both 😉
al_f roadies used to stop. then it all got a bit eighties/lunch is for whimps, so you would end up with a fast non stop group and a slower café stop group. Now with the likes of Sky, Rapha and even Sir Lance blogging from coffee stops it seems once again acceptable.
Or is it just ME?
"no peaks for road"
It's more why would you need one really. A bit like, why don't we ride mtbs with spare tubs in our pockets - technically no reason not to...
Peaks have some use offroad for me as it deflect foliage/branches I find but on road, other than at night (to shield eyes from car headlights), there's no real need and in fact, when in a 'proper' road position - eg low at the front - I actually find the peak gets in the way of vision. I only really use a peak on road when on my cx bike which is higher at the front.
oldgit - Member
Or is it just ME?
No, it's not just you: I've always found a cake stop an essential part of any road ride - at least part of the route is planned around getting to the cafe! Then again, i've never been particularly likely to be in the "fast no stop" group. 😉
Hmm, on the peak issue I might try it without again - god my helmet looks daft without the peak on though (ooh matron etc.)
baggy short wearing guys with a rucksack
Ahaha! What a bunch of idiots! Wearing baggy shorts, what were they thinking? And carrying a rucksack at a trail centre! Don't they realise that trail centres operate under an entirely different set of physical laws where mechanicals are impossible, weather has no effect and hunger and thirst are but a dream...
Overtaking numpties on 5" trail bikes with those silly adjusty seatposts on a racey hardtail is brilliant.
Is that the best part of your ride? I ride both HT and FS bikes and it's only the ****ers that find overtaking "brilliant" the rest of us are to busy having a laugh and finding the DH sections brilliant. Tosser.
or the baggies as he only goes on short rides so it's not like he's gonna do a cafe stop
Perhaps he just likes to wear remotely normal clothes when in public?
Ahaha! What a bunch of idiots! Wearing baggy shorts, what were they thinking? And carrying a rucksack at a trail centre! Don't they realise that trail centres operate under an entirely different set of physical laws where mechanicals are impossible, weather has no effect and hunger and thirst are but a dream...
I would agree idiots wearing baggies ;).
Youre usually less than a mile from a fire road or help in a trial centre. So why carry a load of gear?
Were all different at the end of the day I know, and were all out on the bike which is the main thing.
You are usually not far from a road on any ride, I'd still rather carry enough stuff to be self-sufficient though.
"Are Roadies Odd?"
If you read :
The Flying Scotsman: The Graeme Obree Story
Allan Peiper's book A Peiper's Tale
In Search of Robert Millar by Richard Moore
then you will not need to ask the question.
[i]Perhaps he just likes to wear remotely normal clothes when in public? [/i]
But he's riding a bike, he's not doing any stops for the pub/cafe/shops so what is the point.
Haveyou seen the price of backpacks, frankly better to have one that you could use on a multiday ride and have it half empty for a 3 hour blat round a TC.
The zips gone on mine and I'm looking at at least 30 quid for a new waterproof one, it's an outrage!!
the rest of us are to busy having a laugh and finding the DH sections brilliant. Tosser.
Dunno, I find hammering up the climbs/uphill singletrack just as enjoyable. feel sorry for the people that think climbs are only there to get to the next downhill, you're missing half the ride!
Climbs can be 'enjoyed'/'fun' if you're fit/fast enough for them. Talking as someone who was and didn't mind them but isn't fit now and now dislikes them intensely I know what I'm on about 😉
And if you ask a member of the public if what they think of someone cycling in baggies and a loose fitting jersey they will still say they look stupid, it's irrelevant!
You are usually not far from a road on any ride, I'd still rather carry enough stuff to be self-sufficient though.
Agreed, although I for one have never understood the need for anything like a Camelbak MULE/HAWG for anything short of multi-day rides!
it's only the **** that find overtaking "brilliant" the rest of us are to busy having a laugh and finding the DH sections brilliant. Tosser.
Charming! I must admit I find it very satisfying when folk audibly sneer at 'XC riders' and rush to get into the singletrack first, only to go rather slowly. It happens rather often I find! Not the best part of the ride, but it is amusing when they can't drop you.
I like to give a nice 'hello' at the bottom too, as they stop to discuss how gnarly their line choice was, most ignore you, it's all rather pathetic, but again, WGAS?!
So, do you think you could put the gel INSIDE the cake and make it more like a jam donut (patent pending)?
OP - Those gel things taste pretty grim especially compared to the lemon fudge cake at Peaslake ( it's in the fridge in case you'd missed it)
The cheese straws are pretty damn good too.
Agreed on the cheese straws!
SIS Gels are the worst too, far far too runny. Just wrong!
Agreed, although I for one have never understood the need for anything like a Camelbak MULE/HAWG for anything short of multi-day rides!
I find a mule a bit small for long rides, mine is pretty much full with just a bladder, 2 tubes, pump and a waterproof.
I've got to race with these chaps tonight.
But you could carry 2 tubes, a pump and a waterproof in your pockets, that's what I don't really get, why carry a huge Camelbak? There are smaller bags with the same water capacity, don't you find the big bag restrictive?
Climbs can be 'enjoyed'/'fun' if you're fit/fast enough for them. Talking as someone who was and didn't mind them but isn't fit now and now dislikes them intensely I know what I'm on about
Talking as someone who wasn't and minded them but is now and likes them intensely, he's right. 😉
I like a decent climb, not too steep, just one you can sit and turn a decent gear!
I like a decent climb, not too steep, just one you can sit and turn a decent gear!
Aye, the Whites level climb is a real grin inducer for me.
Perhaps he just likes to wear remotely normal clothes when in public?But he's riding a bike, he's not doing any stops for the pub/cafe/shops so what is the point.
See, you forget that the road is a public place too
Aye, the Whites level climb is a real grin inducer for me.
Yeah I'd agree with that.
See, you forget that the road is a public place too
See my comment about what people think of you, to the public, you look stupid either way!
Overtaking numpties on 5" trail bikes with those silly adjusty seatposts on a racey hardtail is brilliant.
BBBRRRRIIINNNNGGG. that's your alarm clock, that is.
But seriously, they may be on their 2nd lap or ride.
WGAF about all of this? wearing baggies on a road bike is no worse than wearing lycra on a MTB. Wear what you want, ride what you want and carry what you want. Just mind your own f***ing business what other people do.
Absolutely nothing to stop you being the same on a MTB, Camelbacks are not compulsory I haven't used one in years
Well, where do you put:
waterproof, small fleece, mutli-tool, spare tubes, tyres levers, knee pads, puncture kit, small length of chain, cosmo-blanket and a whistle without a camel back?
And expect for the comso-blanket I have used all the above on various rides (fleece and waterproof 3 days ago actually).
EDIT and to carry food too, you don't see that many café on a donkey path...
Well, where do you put:
waterproof, small fleece, mutli-tool, spare tubes, tyres levers, knee pads, puncture kit, small length of chain, cosmo-blanket and a whistle without a camel back?
If required a waterproof will fold down in my jersey pocket, spare tubes, tyre levers - jersey pocket, if a long ride smsll length of chain and some spare pads - jersey pocket, knee pads - no use for them, fleece - never wear one and WTF do I want a whistle for? In 10 years of riding I have never once felt the need to blow a whistle
And food (usually flap jack) - guess where - jersey pocket.
That's why road jerseys with rear pockets are so damn good.
Went on the road bike on saturday, wearing a peaked helmet (oo err) and a camelback. Was cycling from Nottingham to Sheffield so wanted some reserves when not near the shops/cafe etc...
It is then completely irrelevant that I forgot to pack food and almost died on Beely Moor 😆
I also still got nods/said hello to other roadies!
However on a bike I will never ride with a bag unless it's a long ride, they annoy me too much! And like others have said for a short/medium ride you can put everything you need in you pockets.
Gels go up your shorts.
waterproof, small fleece, mutli-tool, spare tubes, tyres levers, knee pads, puncture kit, small length of chain, cosmo-blanket and a whistle without a camel back?
So you carry all that, but no way of inflating your tyres? Looks like I'm more self sufficient than you Juan.
As Kingtut said, and as I've said in the past, I make a value judgement about what to carry, and see absolutely no point in carrying a whistle, a fleece, knee pads, a puncture kit, or a cosmo-blanket. I don't actually own any of those things.
It's daylight anyway, shouldn't you be out doing your daily 8353 mile ride up Everest without oxygen and no front wheel just to make it harder for yourself?
oldgit - MemberGels go up your shorts.
And the same to you.
Well i do carry a pump I just forget about it. Dear njee, considering that I was already mtbing while you were still w@nking over the lingerie pages of an argos catalogue and that I live on the Alps I think I am a bit better than you at arguing what is usefull on a MTB ride. No later that a month ago, I had a mate from the UK visiting me. Guess what, although he won the gorrick sport category, he manage to found use for knee pads, elbow pads and the whistle (this as to do with the wind blowing hard and you crashing). Maybe you're so damn good (after all from what you're saying seems to me that you should already be a pro rider) that you've never had a mechanical, but in real life I'd rather carry an extra something than walking several hours back to the car.
Kingust I guess you'll need to experiment going from 30°C to less than ten within minutes to guess the usefulness of a fleece (actually it even happened to me in the UK).
