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Baggies (Endura Singletracks) are near enough waterproof as is the Camelbak.Really?
I'd much rather wear lycra in the rain than heavy, flappy baggies for the sake of fashion or pleasing other people.
Mind you I'm not a fatty so I'm not bothered about people seeing me in lycra and cycling jersey.
Oh god here we go - someone that thinks they look good in lycra.
Here's the rule - blokes look awful in lycra and attempting to imply I'm chubby (9% bodyfat, V02 Max same as a Premier League footballer, resting pulse low 40s, etc) because I wear baggies (which aren't very baggy) really is rather sad. I wear a flipping mushroom on my head as do all sensible cyclists - is there any way to make that look cool? No there isn't. I wear lycra shorts UNDER my baggies for a bit of padding but other than that, I like having pockets and I like not showing the world my ar5e. My wife may think its's cute, I don't.
Here's the very same shorts causing massive drag and weight issues when I won an offroad tri last year: I Nikwaxed them so they are water resistant and repel all moisture.
The only thing I wear skin tight clothing for is open water swimming and surfing:
Blokes look dreadful in lycra - get over it. Baggies are more practical. Get over it.
And anyone trying to force "rules" and assumptions on others is a complete cretin.
Well baggies haves pockets, so each time you look at the maps you don't have to get it out of the bag.
As for long ride, friday 7 hours long ride has been done like usual, baggy and not padding underneath. I don't understand how people get sore asses... Maybe I am not njee enough.
Tj IIRC when we did the horrible ride you were carrying a rugsac :D. Would you say that for this day a waterproof and a fleece where too much? I don't thing so.
Surf mat you're my hero of the day 😀
*EDIT You did mis-spell crétin though 😉
I don't get it. Why aren't you in a baggy wetsuit?
I don't get it. Why aren't you in a baggy wetsuit?
😀 😆
9% bodyfat, V02 Max same as a Premier League footballer, resting pulse low 40s, etc
Oh god you're boring.
Are you friends with "realman" by any chance? Or possibly more?
Oh god you're boring
Pot kettle black.
Realman weighs about 3 grams and gets blown over by someone sneezing. I don't.
Just because you're a bit over "chunky" doesn't mean you have to get antsy with me for bothering to exercise more. I'm also "overweight" on a BMI chart - just not packing a bit too much insulation like you.
Maybe I am not njee enough.
I like that, has a real ring to it! You're clearly not, whether it's a good thing or not, but we do appear to be rather different!
I don't want to have two arguments in one thread, I'll get a reputation, but Matt you really are far too full of yourself! The fact that you won one of their 'triathlons' whilst clearly having time to change in full goes a fair way to show the level of competition! Don't say it was technical either, as I've said in the past, I've done one of their events, a) it was attrocious and b) it was the worst 'MTB' course ever.
You also look a bit chunky yourself to be honest in those photos. I'd suggest that you ought to take notice of the 'overweight' moniker.
njee - you have the physique of a young boy. You also did EnduranceLife's worst event and you didn't even do very well - so how on earth can you comment? You didn't do the course I did did you? You didn't have to wait while three people needed emergency treatment from crashing did you? You didn't have to cross streams, bogs, do a number of drops, big climbs, etc did you? You have no idea do you? So why comment? You "race" around Surrey after all.
Chunky? Oh do give me a break. It's called going to the gym - something you have clearly never done yourself. I also place well in 10k trail running races (usually top 10 or even top 5) - do you? Can you do that and be "chunky?" Yes you are probably fit but I hazard a guess that you have the upper body strength of a flu ridden OAP.
And calling me full of myself? Jesus another case of
kettle
pot
black
Get back to your gently sloping countryside and into your women's clothes. And stop following me around like some wierd obsessed nutter.
Any more around?
Juan - on that day I did indeed have a rucksac - out in the big mountains on a day with distinctly indifferent weather - fleece and waterproof absolutely essential as was a full first aid kit.
I'd much rather not carry a rucsac and probably do for only a few rides a year - but sometimes that extra kit is essential.
Another point you make Juan - if you have a decent saddle and a well broken in arse than the padding in a pair of lycra shorts is superfluous as well - many a thousand mile without a padded short with never a sore arse over decades.
far too much of this is about fashion and about having all the right gear. Lets face it most folk here are out a couple of times a month for a couple of hours around the local woods.
Baggies seem ideal to me for mountain biking (although below 5 degrees or so i prefer bib tights) but lycra for road bikes is much more comfortable particularly if spending more than a couple of hours in the saddle. Not just at the arse either its the lack of something swishing about the thighs and things like that.
So a five page thread of existential angst about what to wear descends into bitch fighting about body shapes, but roadies are considered odd?
Only on STW...
Crikey +1 🙂
And Juan and I have not been as inflammatory as we might have been 🙂
njee most certainly started the body shape bit.
Again.
So - is njee tronguy is disguise?
I reckon so.
Surf-Mat - MemberOh god you're boring
Pot kettle black.
Realman weighs about 3 grams and gets blown over by someone sneezing. I don't.
[b]Just because you're a bit over "chunky" doesn't mean you have to get antsy with me for bothering to exercise more. I'm also "overweight" on a BMI chart - just not packing a bit too much insulation like you.[/b]
Are you illiterate? You wrote this.
I don't need to 'follow you around' you knob, you shout about all of your 'achievements' constantly! The fact you know that I did badly in the 'tri' I did suggests that you've actually bothered to look, you've repeated the fact you won in several threads. Sounds to me like you're the stalking type. Bit sad really!
To be honest, the course as you describe it sounds exactly like the one I did, atrocious. As you have no other experience of racing whatsoever, I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt, sure you won't mind! I'm sure you're a better runner than me, I'm crap, happy to admit that, sadly I really don't give a shit, and I do worry about your constant need to boast and get 'one up' on absolutely everyone.
You must have a really really REALLY small penis, and I feel sorry for you. It does explain the reticence around wearing lycra though.
Perhaps you could both get a room?
Resorting to small penis comments - pretty impressive debating skills you have there njee - I suggest you avoid a career in law.
Well that's that sorted then - job done.
As you were lads (and any ladies who 9)% of the time look fantastic in lycra).
If Matt brings his ego we'll have to get separate ones!
I wonder why BikeRadar didn't want him!?
Back on topic, I ride most kinds of bike and also eat most types of cake.
Don't really care too much about it, I enjoy riding my bikes but I really enjoy cake. Did have a gel once. Only once.
Well that's that sorted then - job done.
Huh? What was the 'job' to look daft!? We've clearly both accomplished that, but I seem to have encountered fewer angry people along the way!
As I said whilst this was still OT, gels are a great way to get fuel during a race situation, but I just can't really see me eating them away from that. Not cheap if nothing else! Mind you, neither is cake!
I remember having a PowerGel gel a few years ago, it was easily the most revolting thing I've ever tasted!
Seems to me that every time njee resort to insults. Funny that. I quite like the fact that surf-mat has made the same comment to njee than me.
If I wasn't skint I would gladly pay the easy jet fare for you to do the transvesubienne [url] http://www.avalanchecup.com/raid-avalanche.html [/url] just for a laugh.
Meant to be a good event, some friends did it a few years ago. Would be interested to give it a punt sometime. I know it's meant to be rather technical.
Let me know when you want to pay for me to do it! Not quite sure what it'd achieve, you could pay for me to do the Megavalanche if you want? I know there's plenty of technical riding out there, I don't really understand why you think I don't?
I ride different types of bikes, eat any kind of cakes, and will eat gels when push comes to shove!
Speaking of which - and odd roadie habits - can I just say how impressed I was by the peleton of assorted club riders on the Midland Monster sportive yesterday who elbowed and barged the rest of us mere mortals into the hedges on a narrow country lane to get past us.
And who then all stopped to urinate at the road side - en masse - so that it was running down the edges of the road. In the middle of a pleasant country hamlet, surrounded by cottages and their residents. It's not like there wasn't 50-60 miles of isolated hedgerow they could have used. Absolute stupid muppets, making the rest of us look sooo bad to those who saw it.
But rude and ignorant people can be found riding many kinds of bikes, I guess.
Njee - I reckon you have mild ADD. I know because I have it too 😉
Oh probably, wouldn't surprise me. Some OCD going on too!
Hey - one good thing about it - you are meant to drink LOADS of caffeine to help control it... 😉
I have to say caffeine doesn't really seem to affect me! Too far gone obviously!
Hey Matt, I'm in the middle of the overweight category according to BMI. Less than 9% fat though, and I'll wager I do more exercise than you. Wanna fight? 😀 My last half marathon was 1hr29, and I'm probably a fair bit older than you, too. By admission, I'm not brilliant at the old cycling though.
I really think you belong at bikegaydar, or even the mens gayfitness forum so you can kiss your biceps with all of your mates.
I'd just like to add that I look ****in' stunning in lycra.
As you were.
Tonight I span as fast as I could round 14miles on my single speed roadie thing. After the first 20mins I actually LIKED it.
I'm going to do it again tomorrow night 😀
So, what msExcel spreadsheet for middle aged wonder cyclists to handbag each other?
Will anyone wear Lycra on Sunday?
Here's the very same shorts causing massive drag and weight issues when I won an offroad tri last year
I wonder what the people up the sharp end in the longer races were wearing - the ones who were lapping quicker than you despite going considerably further.
Well baggies haves pockets
As do roadie cycling tops. With the advantage that whatever you put in them doesn't bounce up and down and get very irritating when you pedal. Have tried putting stuff in my baggies' pockets, but find I can only put very small stuff in before it gets irritating.
I've mentioned before on here how I only ever wear lycra on the MTB, yet sometimes wear baggies on a road bike (when I'm taking my son somewhere and trying to look slightly less odd when I arrive). The thing is, I reckon the baggie shorts still look dodgy - only the 3/4s are vaguely normal.
Well I'm just back from a nice evening racing fellow roadies around Milton Keynes. After the flag we didn't talk about tyres, cake or what to wear. We did however talk about trailquests, the Bucks off road sportive and the Summit series MTB races.
When I'm 60 I really do hope I'll be road riding regularly like the oldies you see. **** sitting at home looking like beach ball.
Will anyone wear Lycra on Sunday?
For the Surrey Hills ride? If I don't it'll be the first time ever!
Forget about the baggies vs lycra and the Camelback vs jersey pockets.
Time to open this can of worms again:
Riser bars or straight !?
five hundred and eighty milimetres of twenty five point four flatness.
I'm on risers this year, and liking it. Seems to be increasingly common among the XC racing brigade.
15mm rise risers FTW.
BTW I'm an incredible hunk of man love in Lycra.
Surf Matt, your saddle is too low and bars too high.
EDIT: sorry just realised you are short, my apologies.
I wonder what the people up the sharp end in the longer races were wearing - the ones who were lapping quicker than you despite going considerably further.
Please explain - two people overtook me in the MTB, I overtook them on the run.
Blokes look dreadful in lycra - get over it. Baggies are more practical. Get over it.
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And anyone trying to force "rules" and assumptions on others is a complete cretin.
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Without wanting to return to this discussion... Surely the last thing baggies are is practical.
They're more modest perhaps, but they're far less practical. Hence they're not used in competition, by anyone!
Matt, I think aracer was alluding to the fact you won the sprint event, there's then the mid-distance one, and the enduro one, which despite being longer, were faster.

