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My wife is looking for a new bike. She doesn't ride much but is keen to ramp that up this year with the kids getting bigger etc.

We've looked around the usual places, but most of the kit that has caught her eye has been 29" flavour.

She doesn't see the harm so long as she fits the bike. The shopkeeps seem keen to say anything to make a sale.

Would a 29" be undetectable to the novice, or will it be a bit of a handful?


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:41 pm
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It's the exploding wheels that will be a problem.

(It'll be fine)


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:42 pm
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As long as she gets the right size and type (for the riding she does) of bike the wheel size will be largely irrelevant - there are positive and negative differences in handling / stability etc. for the different sizes but you just adapt to those differences..


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:46 pm
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Fine.

Why would smaller wheels be any different?


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:46 pm
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My wife has just built up a 29er, and she finds it a much easier ride than her 26er.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:51 pm
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My wife's a complete novice, so I got her this..
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DrP


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:54 pm
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If they were so hard to use, no one would start riding hybrids or road bikes...


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:54 pm
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29ers do take a little bit more bossing around, so it might depend on riding style and to a lesser extent size and strength. This is what the skills course my wife did thought when they looked at her technique. Obviously you can work on the riding style part.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:57 pm
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How tall is she?

My wife's 4'11" I wouldn't be buying a 29er for her however much she liked the look of them...


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 2:57 pm
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You'll find people new to MTBing, on the whole, will prefer larger wheels.

Why?

They're inherently more stable, and what the purists might cry out as a lack of agility in 29ers (yeah right! Ride a good one...) anyone new to the sport will more often than not welcome the extra stability.

My GF has struggled with confidence for the past year on her 26" hardtail. She's only a couple of inches shorter than me, so I put a shorter stem on my 29er and she took it out the last 2 weekends. She was MUCH faster everywhere, and much happier to boot. She's now planning the sale of her 26" bike and the purchase of a 29er HT of her own.


 
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as you all know I am a big fan of 26" wheels, but I would say a 29er would be easier to learn on (although probably not much)


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:04 pm
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29ers do take a little bit more bossing around

Only if you're really pushing them. That's not going to be an issue for a beginner.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:06 pm
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There's a relative lack of choice and the bikes tend to be heavier but that's all.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:11 pm
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My wife's 4'11" I wouldn't be buying a 29er for her however much she liked the look of them
plenty of ahem, less statuesque riders like big wheelers too. Aslong as she had a decent test ride and got on with the wheel size/geometry shirley there'd be no reason not to buy?


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:27 pm
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I think at her height the compromises on height of the front end, reach etc that larger wheels enforce would compromise the bike too much.

It's a view held by a lot of bike designers that I respect so not just prejudice on my part.

she could have 650B if she bought her own tubes 🙂


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:30 pm
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c'mon who's going to post Emily Batty's shoehorned 29er? 🙂


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 3:32 pm
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They're not for everyone or every shorter rider, but the things that make 29ers so stable and hard to endo, with higher front ends, are things some new riders really like - so we made this
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I don't think you need to make any big compromises to get a smaller rider on bigger wheels, as long as short-travel (less divey) forks are ok and jumps and throwing shapes aren't a priority. A bit heavier wheels though, granted.


 
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They're inherently more stable, and what the purists might cry out as a lack of agility in 29ers (yeah right! Ride a good one...)

what would you count as a good one?


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:00 pm
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fair enough, maybe it is just a case of finding 'the bike that works for you' then.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:02 pm
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Kind of the mixed bag of 'it'll be fine' compared with the stupid (Thanks DrP).

A rider who's opinion I respect said a 29er is not as easy to thread through singletrack etc. If there is no difference, why go 29" over 26"?

Hmmm; time to guess.


 
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A rider who's opinion I respect said a 29er is not as easy to thread through singletrack etc

Has he actually ridden a decent 29er recently? That was certainly true of some of the original ones not decent ones now.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:08 pm
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Wimminz can often prefer lighter bikes.

c_g happy with 26er


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:10 pm
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My wife went from a Trek Skye, which was bought to ease her into things gently, to a Cali SL. She finds the extra inches give her a much better ride, especially improving her confidence going down, and despite being a complete short arse at 4'14 she has no problems handling a 29er. Conversely, she could hardly ride my 26 incher with its inappropriate angles. The wheel size doesn't matter as much as the bike fitting properly.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:16 pm
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Should be something there for everyone.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:17 pm
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The worry is that she'll be overwheeled unless she's riding pretty rough stuff. I see a lot of people riding trail centres on 29" wheels when 650 or even 26 would be more than enough. 29"s just roll over everything and make it less of a challenge.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:31 pm
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That Pinnacle looks ace!
I might get one for the Mrs!


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:34 pm
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honourablegeorge - Hohoho, just like suspension, or rubber tyres, or inner tube, etc etc... maybe we should all still be scooting along on dandy horses?


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 4:41 pm
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My Mrs rides a Specialized Jett 29er and wouldnt swap it for anything, huge confidence builder, no problems riding singletrack. only thing she noted was initially she found her feet overlapped the front wheel on tight turns but has adapted and now its not a problem.

I certainly wouldnt rule a 29er out but get a test ride if possible.

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she has previosuly ridden

Rockhopper 26 HT
Stumpjumper 26 HT
marin Rift Zone 26 FS

Lovely looking bike as well

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Posted : 05/03/2014 5:08 pm
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The worry is that she'll be overwheeled
stw gold


 
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The worry is that she'll be overwheeled unless she's riding pretty rough stuff. I see a lot of people riding trail centres on 29" wheels when 650 or even 26 would be more than enough. 29"s just roll over everything and make it less of a challenge.

🙄


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 8:35 pm
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the big advantage with 29'er?

it flatters the novice rider by smoothing the trail

it allows experienced riders to go quicker, for less effort


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 8:36 pm
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She finds the extra inches give her a much better ride, especially improving her confidence going down

Help......

Fnaar.

As mentioned above, she'll probably find a 29er improves her confidence rather then taking anything away.

Built our lass a 26" bike up a year or two ago and she loves it but finds it tricky off road because it's quite a lively ride. If we were to change it it would be for a 29er.


 
Posted : 05/03/2014 11:36 pm
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you know 29 is only one characteristic of the bike...


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 12:14 am
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my wife - 4'11" loves riding this
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although it has been accused of having 32" wheels...


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 1:26 am
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^ Nice!


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 7:53 am
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Has he actually ridden a decent 29er recently?

He has a Stumpy FSR 29er and a Niner hardtail, so you make up your mind.

He has a (vast) collection of bikes; and he reckons the right tool for the job is not always 29.

I've only ridden one once. I couldn't tell the difference. Hence the dilemma.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 8:37 am
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I'm sure that's true and that's why I can't see myself wanting to just ride 29ers but to say 29ers are hard to thread through singletrack sounds pretty princess/pea to me. when you're pushing really hard, you certainly notice that you need to push them into tighter bends a bit more but it's not something that a beginner would notice and as has been said previously, the extra stability/confidence may well actually make it a better choice.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 8:42 am
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If all MTBs had always come with 29 inch wheels you wouldn't even bother to ask, would you? Then again, if she's a novice do you even care about a minute differences in wheel size that might eek out a coupla minutes over 2 hours of racing? Find the best deal you can that fits, it will have wheels, they will be some size or other, and who cares what.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 9:06 am
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I'd get her a 29er if she likes it.
My partner isn't confident off road and was using a KTM Lycan 26er. I foolishly, in hindsight, gave her a shot of my Trek (Gary Fisher) Rumblefish and she loves it. She finds it more stable and inspires confidence in her to take on more technical terrain that she was wary of with the KTM.


 
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A word on 29ers for short riders. A friend of mine is 5'1". She races XC and rode everything (trail centres to Hadleigh Farm A lines) last year on a super-blingy 26" carbon rocket (19.5 lbs). Now she's got a Niner and it fits her really well. She's faster downhills, over rough stuff and loves it on the climbs too, even though it's 1.5 lbs heavier.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 12:11 pm
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I've only ridden one once. I couldn't tell the difference. Hence the dilemma.

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Whether you think they are faster, slower , better or worse the one thing they are is different . I am very surprised if you really couldn't tell the difference , assuming you actually took it for a proper off road ride .


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 12:49 pm
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I'd get her a 29er if she likes it.

+1

Better to get her out on a bike she wants and having fun.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 1:03 pm
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I'd get her a 29er if she likes it.
+1
Better to get her out on a bike she wants and having fun.

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I briefly tried to persuade my GF that maybe a 650b might be a better solution, as at 5ft8 but long in the leg most medium sized 29ers are a bit long for her and decent small 29ers relatively thin on the ground. She was hearing none of it, and wants a 29er!

Shame Kinesis don't do the Sync (which is what I'm riding) in a 29er in the small, as I'm sure she'd have ordered one already!


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 1:26 pm
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For a decent small 29er, maybe look here:
http://www.bikesoup.com/magazine/review-29-er-xc-mtb-bike-options-geometrically-gifted-shorter-rider/


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 4:20 pm