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On top of that there is a boom in sales 60% UK and over 100% USA, that means a shortage, a shortage nearly always sees prices rise.
prices went up on the 1st January due to Duty that had to be paid because of Brexit. Yes there are other factors,
“ And finally can some people stop name calling others because their views are different from their own.”
Re: Brexit. I will when someone who voted for it gives me a quantifiable benefit of it. It seems that sadly Project Fear was actually Project Reality.
And finally can some people stop name calling others because their views are different from their own.
It they volunteer to fill in all the customs declarations, and pay the additional transit costs, buy all the spare seafood, and retrain to work in care or the NHS, then we can all make up and be friends.
As the US is not part of Brexit and they have seen the same increases in prices.
The USA's exports didn't collapse overnight on Jan 1st.
Yes there are short to medium trends that are affecting everyone, but these are situational, Brexit is structural and we will be suffering from it when other economies have long since put Covid behind them.
Delivery date has gone back a further fortnight so looks like we’re stuck paying the increase. Never mind
TLDR: channel overstock (ie the reason why you could get nice cheap OEM forks, brakes etc) has been exhausted as a result of COVID issues. Now we're getting the Brexit fallout.
I'm a massive cheapskate - think OEM forks being bunged through online merchants like CRC or Bike24, sticking with 10 speed and so on. I'm very happy to pay full whack at my local bike shops for parts or service, but to get the most bang for my buck, I buy some of the bigger ticket stuff at discount or second hand. There's very little stuff out there of this ilk at the moment. I'm also looking at the EU merchants suddenly getting prohibitively expensive as a result of Brexit.
On top of that, people are buying some pretty complicated stuff in bike form these days; I'm seeing a *lot* of new ebikes and Santa Cruzes out there. People are't necessarily buying a decent hardtail as their first 'proper' mountain bike - they're getting a carbon FS bike or FS eBike. This ain't necessarily a bad thing, but it does mean that price comparisons have shifted. Entry level is pretty high end compared to five years ago. The interesting thing to me is how 'house' brands like Vitus etc are keeping costs relatively low - if you can find stock
The idiots that voted for brexit are too stupid to be ashamed of themselves.
While it's tempting to agree with this - and it's undoubtedly accurate in many cases - I think a fair few people are probably ashamed and embarrassed at what they have done. And that's why they'vbe gone so quiet this year.
Of course there's still the odd fundamentalist saying "just Buy British then, simples" - but they probably fit into the category quoted above.
Just lost my post, dunno if it's the adverts but how annoying.
I’m a massive cheapskate – think OEM forks being bunged through online merchants like CRC or Bike24, sticking with 10 speed and so on.
I can sympathise with that, I upgraded my old 2011 Hardrock Disc Sport back in 2016 and getting various bits either discounted or from the likes of CRC as a pull from brand new bikes meant it cost very little to go to a better 1x10 setup. (I started out messing about on the bike and have since progressed to doing the maintenance on the car, so I'm reasonably confident doing my own spannering)
Shimano Zee derailleur: £30
HG81 cassette: £22
One-up single chainring: £25
Shimano M355 front & rear hydraulic brakes: £35 (CRC pull)
KMC chain: £13
Rockshox XC28 TK26: £56 (+£20 to fit by the LBS that originally supplied the bike).
Think the bike was originally about £450 back in 2011.
Point being, I've toyed with replacing it but I don't think I'd get something comparable without spending £600+. This current shortage means that new 'mid' priced bikes are dropping back to old 3x8 setups, mechanical disc brakes etc :/
Definitely a shift in people admitting they made a mistake, though they seem unwilling to actually admit that and rather attempt to shift the blame to something else.
About last year, anyone querying whether brexit was a bad idea would often see 1000+ or so negatives in newspaper comments or social media, but now a similar post on it the negs have dropped down to a couple of hundred.
Give it another year and it will be like nobody voted out.
There'll be a cock crowing too i imagine.
Yep, thanks to all the Brexit uncertainty last year I changed my MTB a year or so ahead of planned and I'm glad I did as I just noticed the other day that the exact Orbea Occam I bought this time last year is now £700 more expensive.!! Assuming you could buy one, which you can't, I think delivery is into August.
I have a great deal of difficulty holding onto my temper when encountering a Brexit voter.. although they are becoming as rare as in stock bikes these days in my experience.. seems a lot, if not most, are more than a little reluctant to admit to it these days, IME anyway.
Do you think that there are companies just upping their pricing more than they had to and just blaming Brexit?
I have a feeling that a fair bit of profiteering has been going on during Covid too, not sure how you'd demonstrate it though.
I do think there are a number of factors at play here -
Our LBS sold out of bikes (and i mean - not a single bike left) last summer - he reckons a global surge in bike sales completely screwed everyone's manufacturing plans - with the big players working on a 2-3 year look-ahead.
Raw materials have been going up, as has the cost of transport and shipping globally.
Brexit has caused us massive problems - we ship things to/from Europe regularly at work and it has been a total nightmare since Christmas - 'overnight' transport to France/Holland can now take up to 5 days due to vehicles being stuck in customs, which is just driving up costs.
The Global impact of COVID will settle down through 2021 and into 2022 - the sh*tstorm caused by Brexit is here to stay.
I've been looking for a new road bike - '105 with discs' price bracket.
In 2017 i bought an Arkose with 105/hydraulics for £999 - now you're looking at £1600 upwards for something with similar spec - if you can find anything.
I’ve been looking for a new road bike – ‘105 with discs’ price bracket.
In 2017 i bought an Arkose with 105/hydraulics for £999 – now you’re looking at £1600 upwards for something with similar spec – if you can find anything.
Just incase you hadn't already looked, Ribble Endurance AL Disc with 105 is £1299, available on c2w and technically 'in stock', delivery is July 17th. I notice though that when I looked a couple of days ago, delivery was 12th June.!!!!!
Santa Cruz price increase of 10% from 1st April apparently. Heard from a UK rep from one of the bigger brands that you'll be lucky to get a carbon 105 disc equipped road bike from the "big", non-direct players for much under £3k for MY2022!
Same story Bought a Trek checkpoint at the old price of £1700 , this was about a month after brexit. Sorted the finance and took the bike the following week its up £175 . Im guessing mine had been in stock before the price increase. Trek Slash 8 are now £3500 mine was £2800 but they have got a lyric and not a yari.
Still haven't got the bike :/
Supposedly within the next 3 weeks, no point cancelling now but it'll have worked out as a 4 month wait and a 12% price increase.
The current price hikes are probably going to fully price me out of the ebike market, I’d decided to buy one late last year but would hold out until we moved, we’ve just made that move but now the bikes I was looking at (if they were actually in stock) have jumped that bit farther out of reach.
Will see what happens in a year or two but I can’t see them coming back down so I presume I’ll just keep on being the slow guy at the back.
I think it's real shame when obviously keen mountain/Road bikers are being priced out of new bikes. God knows what new cyclists make of the prices at the moment. I know a lot of them just want bargain basement models but even those are probably more than they want to pay.
The after shocks of the Ever Given are going to further disrupt supply for several months
Ah yes bikes cost more and turn up later but we've taken back control.
Can't you just feel all that lovely, palpable control that we all have now?
TBH I'm less interested in how this affects whole bicycle prices at present and more concerned about the impact on parts, kit and clothing...
As noted on other threads the apparent shortage and following price hikes for "minor" consumables like SP41 or branded brake fluid tells a tale I reckon.
Any smarty pants in bicycle retail will obviously be trying to stock up on bikes, but I bet they're also trying (or already have) to bump up their holdings of accessories, clothing and service items in anticipation of some scarcity.
At least some of those who couldn't score a new bike going into spring will now be trying to "make do and mend" or spending what was their new bike budget on some nice new shoes/lids/shorts? Sticking 30-50% on say a rear mech is probably a viable option if supply is limited...
There does seem to be a bit of p*$$ taking going on.
If I was involved in the UK bike industry I'd be cashing in now too. The lack of foreign travel this summer will cause a spike in demand. 2022 will be a different story when the UK's economic recovery from covid tanks due to Brexit and the job losses mount.
There's going to be a lot of 2nd hand bargains out there in a year - so many that there may even be a sizeable market for whole bikes to be broken down if their components are sufficiently new.
I've thought about selling my full suss as I'm not really using it at the moment and the £2-2.5k it should sell for could be better spent but the fact that a replacement with lower spec parts would cost £5.5k now stops me. I really can't see a time in the next 10 years where I'll be able to justify over 5 grand on a bike as 0% to 1% payrises won't keep up with bike prices. My current frame is a 2020 btw so hardly old!
Just hoping this covid lark buggers off so I can get back to riding with mates further afield.
anticipation of some scarcity.
Already happened. One distrbutor I know is at 25% of their normal stock holding.
Pushed out another 3 weeks and they’re getting no info from Giant. Guess I might see it this summer.
There’s a stack of stuff held up on the Evergiven, plus they get the bonus of sharing the $900million costs the Egyptians are levying.
I bought a Spesh Diverge last year, retail was £2200 and exact same model is now £2600.
Still haven’t got the bike six months+ after reserving :/
Have to say I’ve tried to stay calm throughout but the shop has made zero outbound effort to contact me.
Anyone know of something similar ~£700, 1x10, lady’s dimensions for geometry, retailer/manufacturer available on ‘Cyclescheme’ (so Halfords is out of the question)?
Hate to leave a thread unresolved, so just to say, finally picked up the bike today.
If I overheard the member of staff taking to another customer correctly, they (main franchised Giant dealer) only have a further three (3) bikes allocated to them for the remainder of 2021, that aren’t already spoken for. With no option to request anything further.
Good article over here: https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Why-Are-Bike-Prices-Going-Up-And-Up,3095