Thinking of getting an E-Cargo Bike? Read this

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If you’re really interested in moving away from driving a car for as many journeys as possible, a cargo bike is the probably the best tool for achieving this.

Bucket/Box style cargo bike – a Riese and Muller Packster 80.

Add in a motor and battery, and the electric cargo bike opens up a whole world of possibilities without all the effort of the past, even for those who need to haul around more than just a backpack of groceries.

There are a world of permutations when it comes to cargo bikes – and trikes – but you can broadly divide them into two types: a bucket/box type, and a longtail.

Bucket/box

The bucket/box types typically have a large cargo area up front, with some sort of sides. These can feel quite secure if you want to carry children or pets – they can be strapped in, and are all contained within the structure. They can also be useful for carrying loads without the need for panniers.

You’ll also see ‘flatbed’ versions, where there are no sides – handy for carrying furniture and bulky items.

The Tern Orox, a longtail in full off-road explorer mode

Longtail

Longtails look more like a traditional bike with a pannier rack on the back, but the rack is usually designed to withstand a child or two, or, in some instances, an adult. You can attach large panniers for shopping, and a variety of child seat and cushion attachments. With some ingenuity you’ll still be able to carry large loads, but you don’t get the same ‘chuck it in the box’ ease of the bucket/box style cargo bikes.

The Benno Boost E, a compact longtail

Longtails can come in quite compact forms – some are about the same length as a modern XL mountain bike. They’re also the same width as a standard bike. This can make storing them or fitting them in public bike racks a lot easier.

The bucket/box types are much bulkier, and if you’ve got a particularly inaccessible local cycle network with A-frames and similar barriers you may find your path blocked to progress.

AM CargoBikes Ultimate Curve Trike

In a similar vein, trikes may be tricky to navigate around the typical back ways of UK cycle infrastructure, but may give some riders more confidence that they won’t tip over, especially at traffic lights or when loading. Note that the handling – especially cornering – is rather different to a bike, however. Expect to take things a little more gently and slowly with a trike.

Riding a longtail is an easy swap from a normal bike, while a box/bucket bike may take a little getting used to, but most confident cyclists will soon get the hang of it.

You will be surprised at what you manage to carry.

You should give careful thought to where you want to ride and what you want to carry. Smaller wheels and narrower tyres will typically be trickier to handle on rougher surfaces, while the bulk of a box bike may not be practical unless you have access to large outdoor storage and plenty of unobstructed routes.

Remember also that children grow – the trade-off between easy seating and manoeuvrability may rapidly change the relative benefits of a box or longtail bike.

Hub drive vs mid-drive

Unless you live somewhere very flat, you will probably appreciate the torque of a decently powerful motor set up. Hub drive cargo bikes do work, but fully loaded on a steep incline they lack the torque of a mid-drive motor.

If you really want the near-effortless experience of cruising up a steep hill while hauling the weekly shop, a couple of kids, and while wearing full waterproofs, investing in a bike with a 85Nm of torque is what you want.

Compact bike, big boxes.

Weight limit

When choosing a cargo bike, check out the weight limits. Some will carry the weight of an adult as a passenger/cargo, some won’t. Bear in mind there’s often separate weight limits for front and rear racks, plus an overall weight limit for the bike (which includes the rider, plus all the cargo).

Adjustable height handle bars.

Most cargo bikes come in a single size, but often with some sort of handlebar adjustment to suit different heights of riders. A dropper post can be an excellent addition. If you’re going to be sharing the bike between a couple of adults, a dropper allows you tool-free adjustment of saddle height – and can also be handy for getting on and off when the bike is heavily loaded.

A one-legged kickstand offers less stability.

Most will come with a kickstand of some sort. The one-legged variety may be fine if your passengers can climb on themselves, but a two-legged version will provide much greater stability for loading up with small children or heavy loads.

Cargo bikes typically come with lights built in, though you may find the front light is quite low down – rather than bar mounted – on some models. If you’re riding in traffic rather than on protected cycle ways, you might well want to add your own lights and accessories for extra visibility.

Lights can be a little low for in heavy traffic

Accessories

Each model will probably come with a fairly dazzling array of accessory options. Tents or cabooses for rainy days, panniers of various shapes and sizes, and extra mounts and racks for even more carrying capacity. Note that many longtail racks and panniers are designed as the perfect pairing, and mixing and matching different brands won’t necessarily see fixing points matching up well – there’s as yet no ‘standard’ sizing or mounting.

You should plan on buying a strong – and probably heavy – lock, to meet the needs of your insurer. You won’t care about the size and weight because you’ve got a cargo bike, but think about the locking attachment points – getting a box bike up against a piece of street furniture is trickier than a standard bike. You may well find you want a longer shackle or chain to give you more flexibility on locking points. You will inevitably end up carrying all sorts of things – and perhaps enjoying the challenge of figuring out what it’s possible to carry. Prepare to enter a world of straps and bungee cords!

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Maintenance

Maintaining a cargo bike can prove a little trickier than a standard bike. Not all shops are set up to accommodate their bulk and weight, so have a chat with your local mechanic if you think you’ll be needing their services.

You’ll probably find your spares kit doesn’t quite have all you need too – expect to need longer brake cables, plus on a longtail you might need two chains to make one long enough to fit your bike.

Remember that you’ll probably have Schrader valves, rather than the Presta you’ll find on most mountain bikes – make sure your pump is compatible! Getting a puncture on a cargo bike is a real nuisance, so it pays to pay attention to your tyre pressures and don’t scrimp on replacement tyres when the time comes.

If you’ve got the space to store a cargo bike – and easy enough access to get from storage to the road – a cargo bike can be an excellent way to cut out many of the short miles you might usually do by car. For anything up to 10km, you’ll probably find there’s little in it by way of time difference heading out by car or e-cargo bike. You can generally ride right up to wherever you want to go, no circling for a parking space or walking from multi-storey to destination. And all those short miles are the worst for your car – and the environment. With leaps and bounds in e-bike technology and model availability, they’re easier than ever to add to your life.

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    P20
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    We’ve had our Tern GSD for nearly two years now and it’s brilliant. We needed an electric cargo bike to get back over the hills around us without getting a sweat on whilst doing the shop. It’s basically our second vehicle. It’s done shopping, the odd commute, tip runs, hauled garden centre loads including bags of compost and even picked @ahsat up from the train station (now has a proper seat on it).

    A brilliant bike and one that has started more conversations about bikes than any other bike we’ve ever owned. Make sure you’ve got plenty of high end locks
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    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    Love it.

    In a world where there was a God, these things would be free and buying bling MTBs on C2W wouldn’t be possible

    Until then, much respect to anyone that has one and uses it ,:-)

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    goldfish24
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    Good read that – I’ve been cargo bike curious for a while now and you’ve piqued my interest.

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    hatter
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    Beeno Boost here, 100% agree with the dropper post suggestion, it really helps when quickly changing between riders and also lets you get both feet flat on the ground to brace the bike whilst the passenger climbs aboard or if stopped at the lights with a heavy load.

    Had it over 18 months now and the novelty hasn’t worn off, the kids love it, their friends insist I use it to run them home after playdates.

    Seen here out repairing vandalised Lib Dem signs before the General Election, I think I may have hit peak ‘centrist dad’

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    b33k34
    Full Member

    I can’t work out what the difference is between the two models but the more expensive Decathlon cargo bike is currently £700 (so ‘just’ £2500).

    https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/electric-cargo-bike-rear-loading-longtail-r500/_/R-p-329177?mc=8605830&c=rainy%20blue

    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    What is the box on the front of that Benno? I’ve been looking for something that fits & that looks ideal. Also, how have you fixed it in place?

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    We’ve had our Tern GSD for nearly two years now and it’s brilliant.

    The local community group has one, I’m one of the riders for it – it gets used for food bank runs, local “shop to home” deliveries, bits and pieces around the various fairs, festivals, events that the town puts on.

    It’s great fun to ride. 🙂
    Also, the quickly adjustable handlebar and seatpost is so good for swapping it between riders of different heights. Because it gets used by half a dozen different riders, that functionality is essential.

    hatter
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    What is the box on the front of that Benno? I’ve been looking for something that fits & that looks ideal. Also, how have you fixed it in place?

    The Benno front utility racks are designed to take standard EU issue Euro crates. Ours is a 20 litre Length 400 x Width 300 x Height 220 mm one, the ‘frame’ on the rear rack is also designed to have a larger one just slot in.

    I got mine here for £15 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114993584272?var=415097685259

    I then cut some slots in it for velcros straps to secure it to rack and drilled some holes in it so that is it rains it doesn’t turn into a portable bird bath. I lined the bottom of the inside and the underneath with rubber non-slip mesh that I hot-glued in place so that it won’t rattle against the rack and stuff doesn’t bounce about as much.

    Job Job’ed. Have’nt taken it off the rack since and use it most days.

    Of course I could have bought one of myriad of options Benno themselves make but I quite like the ‘Euro Utility’ look of the crate and I think all in it cost me about £20. I am now slowly covering it in stickers.

    letmetalktomark
    Full Member

    Since loosing our second car earlier in the year to an unfortunate incident I’ve been using my trusty Fortitude for shop runs, short journeys that I’d have normally jumped in the car for. It’s been brilliant bar the odd overly sweaty moment.

    I’ve been looking at an out front cargo style bike like the Omnium albeit in non pedal assist guise – the jump up in price for the E version is firmly back in second car cost realms 🙁

     

    stevious
    Full Member

    Tern GSD user here for ~18 months. Gets me & the kids up and down our steep Brae a couple of times a day without me getting all sweaty. Much easier than a car to use if we’re going into or through town and definitely more fun.

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    dmorts
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    @hatter you forgot to mention the Boost is a blast to ride too! Love zipping about on ours

    5lab
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    The popularity of ebikes means it’s now really hard to find a non-e-cargo bike, which is a shame. E cargo bikes are fine for the average person, but as a keen cyclist you don’t really need the assist ime

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    stwhannah
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    @5lab even if you’re really keen, I think the e-assist widens the scope of what you can do with a cargo bike/without a car, especially if you’ve got some stiff hills around you. My husband uses ours to ‘drive’ to the local bike park with his jump or mountain bike. If he did that without e-assist he’d be too tired to safely do a trick session. When I had just a trailer and hybrid when the kids were younger I could use it for a big shop, but the whole process was a lot slower. With the e-assist, it speeds things up a lot – meaning I can fit doing the shop in by bike to the day alongside other things, which makes it much more likely I will actually do it by bike than car.

    jet26
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    300 miles in with our tern quick hau Absolutely brilliant. 4 year old loves going in the back and means we rarely go anywhere in the car. Those 300 miles have all been done within 5 miles of the city centre so huge amount of journeys in and around town.

    Absolutely brilliant car alternative. Definitely helpful to have the e assist even as a keen cyclist. Easy enough to turn it down to eco or off if you want to work hard!

    crazy-legs
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    Definitely helpful to have the e assist even as a keen cyclist. Easy enough to turn it down to eco or off if you want to work hard!

    Yep, riding the GSD without the motor is just as exercise in purgatory, even for a”keen cyclist”.

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    sl2000
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    I’ve had my Yuba Kombi over a year now and absolutely love it. Eleven year old son happy to go everywhere on it – even in cold and rain. Fourteen year old happy to do shorter trips but prefers we drive if raining for longer ones. Have done 2500km. Chinese ebike conversion hasn’t yet burnt the house down.

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    hatter
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    E cargo bikes are fine for the average person, but as a keen cyclist you don’t really need the assist ime

    Depends on how you look at it, if you’re only planning on using is occasionally, live somewhere completely pan-flat and you really don’t care what state, how sweaty etc you arrive in then I can see you point but that’s a fairly unusual usage case.

    We use it as a car replacement, we still have other other vehicle and have busy lives so if the Benno wasn’t convenient we just wouldn’t use it that often. The E-assist makes it convenient as my wife and I can ride it in ‘civvies’ and you don’t arrive at your destination needing a shower and a change of clothes.

    If you want a work out, put an average sized 10 year old on the back and stick it in Eco, you’l be working plenty hard enough. Sometimes if I’m feeling cold I’ll knock the assist down notch to help me warm up.

    The assist just turns it from an exercise in hair shirtism into something you (and your parrner) will actually gladly use every day rather than the odd occasion. I still have my other bikes for that that kind of thing anyway.

    And yes, the Benno does ride really nicely, biger wheels and fewer weird propriatory parts than a GSD were a major factor in why we went for it. You can really lean those tyres over.

    gowerboy
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    The popularity of ebikes means it’s now really hard to find a non-e-cargo bike, which is a shame. E cargo bikes are fine for the average person, but as a keen cyclist you don’t really need the assist ime

    I am what most people would call a keen cyclist and used to pull my daughters in a trailer for weeks of touring as well as to and from school… it was great fun but everyone has their limits.  I think.  an ecargobike will expand the range of any keen cyclist and means that I will opt for the bike for journeys that I may not have cycled before I had it.

    andrewh
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    I am very anti-ebike for various reasons but I do agree that a cargo bike is the one time they do make sense for an able-bodied person, and is the only sort I will consider whilst I’m still capable of riding a proper bike. Less ‘bike’ and more ‘very small vehicle’

    vlad_the_invader
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    Realistically, what’s it like trying to store one of these things? I mean if you don’t have your own garage or large shed with easy and convenient in/out access…

    I’d love one, but although I have secure storage, that storage is already full of other bikes (and even my “one in/one out” rule won’t really clear enough space).

    I’m kinda paranoid about security as well – and I’d probably be far too distracted thinking about someone nicking the bike to do the weekly shop without forgetting some items…

    andrewh
    Free Member

    My lodger had one for a bit. It didn’t take up that much more space than a normal bike, obviously longer, but that’s it, his was maybe 18″/2ft longer than my road bike. However, that was upright in the porch, absolutely no chance of hanging it in the shed with most of the bikes (which hang by the saddle) and I’d guess similarly no chance of storing upright if you hang them by the front wheel, partly due to weight as well as sheer size. Not sure about, for instance, fitting them in the bike bit on a train?

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    hatter
    Full Member

    Storage is the kicker.

    The boost in total has a footprint only about 4 inches longer than the 700c Dutch bike that used to live in the same spot but is generally more bulky within that space.

    Convenience is king, the easier the bike is to grab and go the more you and your partner will use it over a car.

    stwhannah
    Full Member

    Some of the Tern models are designed to stand vertically on their rear rack, which might work for some people. The weight of cargo bikes does mean that anything more than a couple of steps is pretty challenging- near level access is a huge help. I can’t imagine trying to lift mine onto the kind of racks I’d used for other bikes, even if there was a strong enough hook/rack.

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    big_scot_nanny
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    If you are even thinking about it, with family that are unconvinced, borrow one for a bit and watch the smiles come. We borrowed a demo from Kinetics in Glasgow (Ben Cooper, might still be on here somewhere, super chap and amazing ‘shop’). And that won over my wife and youngest who would be on the back occasionally.

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    Since then, bought one, over a year now, replaced car for approx 80% of local car journeys – shops, taking duvets to dry cleaners, picking up odd things from B&Q, taking bike to bike shop (an ebike on an ebike – haters have at it 🙂 ) , carrying youngest (13yr old) to sports/scouts etc, taking dinosaurs guising… it is absolutely brilliant.

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    big_scot_nanny
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    Agree storage is important, as others have said has to have easy access or it won’t be used.

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Longtail bikes like the GSD are a bit easier to store, to manoeuvre around in a garage etc than front-loader cargo bikes but they’re still bulky cumbersome things.

    However it fitted into my house via my normal front door, you just learn to grab it by the rear rack, not the saddle as you might on a normal bike. It will also stand on its back end.

    It is really not the thing you want to be taking up a flight of steps though!

    ossify
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    How many people could you feasibly fit on a long-tail?

    For example… I have 5 young un’s between the ages of 10y and 18m (madness, I know). Could I strap all 5 of them on somehow?

    How many either on a regular basis or as an awkward one-off? I’m imagining a big wriggling pile strapped on with 50 velcro straps & bungee cords 😀

    That frame on the back like in the 1st pic of @big_scot_nanny, could you squeeze three 8yo’s in that?

    I’m just thinking for things like school run if their bikes aren’t working, or on my rota days bringing the neighbour’s kids back as well, etc.

    seventy
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    ossify
    Full Member

    Is that real? Looks like it will fold in half at the BB if you sit on it, let alone load it with your shopping!

    stevious
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    E cargo bikes are fine for the average person, but as a keen cyclist you don’t really need the assist ime

    Perhaps I don’t ‘need’ the assist, what with me being pretty fit, but what a privilege it is to be able to choose one’s own level of suffering.

    DT78
    Free Member

    ive been thinking about a cargo bike for years. main thing that puts me off is the worry the thing will be nicked if its ever left for more than 30 seconds.

    are you guys packing serious locks for popping to the shops?

    and how are you towing the mtb in that pic?

    dmorts
    Full Member

    are you guys packing serious locks for popping to the shops?

    These days, the only locks worth using on any expensive bikes are the Hiplok and Litelok anti-angle grinder ones, possibly two of them

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    are you guys packing serious locks for popping to the shops?

    Most e-bikes now come with locking mechanisms for the motor (often via an app). Plus you can carry a massive lock without ever worrying about the weight. The community-owned Tern that I use has:
    a locking kickstand
    an integrated front-wheel lock
    a bloody massive gold-rated motorcycle chain lock

    It’s been left alone for a few minutes in so many places while doing deliveries and the kickstand and wheel lock are enough on their own to prevent an opportunist riding off on it. When it’s stored, it gets the full motorcycle lock treatment.

    crazy-legs
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    How many people could you feasibly fit on a long-tail?

    For example… I have 5 young un’s between the ages of 10y and 18m (madness, I know). Could I strap all 5 of them on somehow?

    Two on a longtail but you could tow a child trailer as well.

    Some front-loader cargo bikes will take 4 kids.

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    Olly
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    Weve had a few over the past 10 years, all second hand. Weve currently got two (humble brag)

    If you think a cargo bike is life changing, two is doubly so. no need to worry about who is picking which kids up, as long as they keep their helmets with them we can be as flexible as we need.

    my Yuba’s electric conversion dies the other week, (after 10+ years, it was factory fitted when new), im riding it “unplugged”.

    It managable, but i got a hell of a sweat on this morning.

    I think they should be heavily subsidised, to get one in every household.

    and planning laws adjusted to allow the addition of secure storage in front gardens too. Madness that you cant put a Asguard shed on your front garden, but you can dump a rotten caravan, boat, trailer full of rubbish, etc. (round here, at least)

    tthew
    Full Member

    Is that real?

    I guess the horizontals from the head tube to seat tube are critical for strength. Looks compact and useful, but as others have said about the storage issue, why don’t cargo bike front platforms have a hinge that allows them to be tipped sideways for storage? Surely not beyond the imagination of a bike designer.

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    alpin
    Free Member

    Cargo bikes Rock.

    Thanks to various incentives and tax kick backs I bought an eBullit back in 2019.

    Fun bike to ride. Very versatile. Can take big, clumsy loads as long you as strap it down. There are better options for transporting kids, but they have many accessories if you wanted/needed to do that.

    I’ve a Bob trailer that u used to hook onto the Bullit. It was long! Made planning a BBQ down by the river much easier.

     E cargo bikes are fine for the average person, but as a keen cyclist you don’t really need the assist ime

    That’s bollocks. I dislike emtbs, egravel and eroad bikes. For cargo bikes they make total sense.

    I used to often transport my tools or four crates of Augustiner or materials and whatever else needed. The motor makes a massive difference when pulling away from traffic lights or when riding up hill. I can easily get up to 25km on the flat with a light load, but after a long day’s work when loaded with tools then the motor is great.

    I now live in a van and really miss the convenience of the Bullit. Going to get a new axle for the gravel bike so that I can hang the Bob trailer to it making shopping trips much easier.

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    alpin
    Free Member

    Made a new deck for it the other week because I was bored. Not as practical as the original, but much better looking.

    Olly
    Free Member

    why don’t cargo bike front platforms have a hinge that allows them to be tipped sideways for storage?

    There is one that does exactly as you describe, i can think what its called, the bed sits higher up though to allow it clearance to tip, and obviously it cant interfere with the wheel.

    Alternatively, the gazelle and other (https://velco.tech/en/muli-cycles-shimano/)  has a basket that folds up to make it narrow when not in use.

    you can get a long tail that shortens by folding, though i cant find the link in the moment.

    ratherbeintobago
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    Thanks to various incentives and tax kick backs I bought an eBullit back in 2019.

    We really could do with a better e-bike incentive scheme in the UK.

    The thing that I think would be good for most non-child-transport jobs but doesn’t seem to exist is an e-butcher’s bike (shortish frame, small front wheel with box over it, direct steering)

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