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  • Zwift, my journey, my weight and my fitness.
  • jam-bo
    Full Member

    Now, I’m no mathematician – what’s 11-10 ??

    5th for me once all the sandbaggers got DQ’d….

    http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=3216

    weeksy
    Full Member

    @scaredy

    I wouldn’t go quite as far as 100%, no pain but I can feel every now and again if I stretch to do something unusual its almost like it wants to cramp, but doesn’t. I’m pretty happy but trying to ensure I don’t go nuts on it.
    Need to take tomorrow as a rest day but had a window to ride tonight and I like riding on fasting days.
    Bloody hungry now though.

    Hoping to get the weight back in right direction downwards again

    mashiehood
    Free Member

    DQ…… oh well i dont like CAT B, makes me sick!

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    ah, sadly for mashie 11-10 makes UPG 😐

    mashiehood
    Free Member

    im looking forward to ditching the mtb spd’s for proper road pedals…. float was annoying the **** out of me this eve

    slowpuncheur
    Free Member

    First race tonight, which for some reason I chose the EVR C Mountain course. Started well and was in front group up the mountain first time around, then ANT+ dropped out for a few seconds and I went backwards. Ended up in a few scraps with some stragglers and finished 30th in C which gives plenty room for improvement. Maybe next time, I’ll do more than a 5 min warm up and have a rest day or two before hand. Rides or footy for 5 days in a row before hand probably wasn’t the wisest move. I will be back for more.. Properly enjoyed it.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    i did see another STW tag. i was first off the pier for a while!!!

    having a climb that early on really blew things apart.

    markgraylish
    Free Member

    dc2.0 – Member
    Looks like “Team STW” took bronze place in last nights KISS C/D race
    http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=3100

    (Unfortunately you can’t direct link to the team results page so click on the “Team” tab to show the team results).

    http://www.zwiftpower.com/team.php?id=756

    Any idea what the ranking % means?
    Quite a few of use are on 0% which I’m assuming is a good thing, right? :mrgreen:

    epicsteve
    Free Member

    I had a go at a fast (for me!) lap of the Volcano last night. Managed a 6:04 (302W) but I suspect even lopping a few seconds off to get into the 5 minute range is going to be a struggle given my HR peaked at 181 at the end of the lap (a few years back I reckoned my max was 185, but that’s the first time I’ve seen anything over 180 for a while).

    jamiep
    Free Member

    For the first time, I worked out how to enter a race last night. Dropped at the start and so gruppettoed around – didn’t realise you need to be pushing +400w 5 seconds BEFORE the start rather than a standing start. Utterly, utterly bizarre that Zwift doesn’t require a standing start

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Nice.. I know Nath was talking about that sort of time being Cat4 status… but depends if you could maintain that for an hour i guess 🙂

    I’m still not really cracking on in anger, today i’m going to have another longish bimble round the island.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    jamiep – Member

    For the first time, I worked out how to enter a race last night. Dropped at the start and so gruppettoed around – didn’t realise you need to be pushing +400w 5 seconds BEFORE the start rather than a standing start. Utterly, utterly bizarre that Zwift doesn’t require a standing start

    Yup, you certainly want to be almost at sprint speed by the time the counter ticks down. I was lucky that Crosshair had done the racing first so i knew a few of the tactics like that.

    epicsteve
    Free Member

    Nice.. I know Nath was talking about that sort of time being Cat4 status… but depends if you could maintain that for an hour i guess

    I suspect I could possibly keep up in a Cat 4 race for one lap as long as they were taking it easy and it was a very flat course… And after that I’d need to go for a lie down!

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    being Cat4 status

    Everyone that applies for a race licence gets a Cat 4 one.

    You can sit in a big pack in a Cat 3 race at <3w/kg.

    fifeandy
    Free Member

    You can sit in a big pack in a Cat 3 race at <3w/kg.

    That would depend how heavy you are. I’d be surprised if I could sit in a bunch at ~26mph doing <175W

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    For the first time, I worked out how to enter a race last night. Dropped at the start and so gruppettoed around – didn’t realise you need to be pushing +400w 5 seconds BEFORE the start rather than a standing start. Utterly, utterly bizarre that Zwift doesn’t require a standing start

    Waste of energy. Spinning 200w as the clock ticked down and up to 350w in the first 100m or so saw me off the front of the EVR C race last night.

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    That would depend how heavy you are. I’d be surprised if I could sit in a bunch at ~26mph doing <175W

    I wouldn’t. There’s so much benefit to drafting it’s unreal (well not unreal it’s a mathematical equation involving coefficients and clever stuff).

    fifeandy
    Free Member

    There’s so much benefit to drafting it’s unreal

    Indeed there is – especially for skinny blokes when surrounded by the stereotypical 6ft/90kg Scotsman 😀
    Still find it hard work once the speed picks up on the flat though – much better when group gets to a hill so I can have a rest!

    nathb
    Free Member

    For a benchmark if your thinking of doing a crit race, first W are weighted averages, second are highest 20mins:
    Race 1 – 17th – 318w/334w (strava est)
    Race 2 – 28th – 329w/355w (strava est)
    Race 3 – 7th – 262w/266w (stages PM)
    Race 4 – 12th – 276w/286w (stages PM)
    Race 5 – 9th – 260w/266w (stages PM)

    me 70kg + kit/bike/water/computer = 80kg roughly.
    My FTP under strava/tacx = 340w. Under stages power meter from a Zwift TT it’s 285w (TBC).

    crosshair
    Free Member

    Yeah but you sit in the wind all race 😀

    It takes me 295w (88kg) to finish with the bunch 😉

    nathb
    Free Member

    Race 3&5 I didn’t. Race 4 I was punished by the bunch. 😆

    Also don’t have an aero helmet 😈

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    Are you taking your 20 min number as your FTP nathb?

    nathb
    Free Member

    The Southern Yeti
    Are you taking your 20 min number as your FTP nathb?

    No, best 20 mins using stages = 301w *.95 = 286W

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    Phew.

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    Not wanting to piss on chips, but that’s on different equipment, isn’t it?

    Whether the old number or the new number is more correct, you need now to normalise at that and see whether you improve from there.

    Climbing Box Hill on your mum’s shopper and then on a 6.8kg climber’s bike – and claiming the difference indicates you got stronger doesn’t count 😉

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    Today 8.28

    now there’s a challenge…

    nathb
    Free Member

    Congrats on moving to P1 Weeksy, but I thought you were supposed to be resting sir? 😆

    weeksy
    Full Member

    tomorrow as at Forest of Dean on Sat.

    was just an attack, now at z1/2

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Not wanting to piss on chips, but that’s on different equipment, isn’t it?

    Whether the old number or the new number is more correct, you need now to normalise at that and see whether you improve from there.

    Climbing Box Hill on your mum’s shopper and then on a 6.8kg climber’s bike – and claiming the difference indicates you got stronger doesn’t count

    of course its relative, however i now class that as my real time, not my turbo restricted time

    crosshair
    Free Member

    Crumbs!! It’s getting too close for comfort 😀

    When you start troubling real life segments I’ll really start panicking 😉

    Serious answer- well done! That’s epic 🙂

    weeksy
    Full Member

    I’m actually gutted…. if i’d known i was only 7s off your time i’d have pushed the last few 100’s to take it 😀

    crosshair
    Free Member

    I think mine was a Z2 day if I remember rightly 😀

    epicsteve
    Free Member

    Oh, its London today ! Box hill….

    Previous, 10.02

    Today 8.28

    Wow – no chance I’ll be challenging that anytime soon. Sure it was a turbo and not an e-Bike you bought… 🙂

    Suspect I could maybe get to somewhere like 9:30 without ANT+ dropouts and pushing my HR to near explosion levels, but doubt I could do any better than that.

    Tiger6791
    Full Member

    Oh, its London today ! Box hill….
    Previous, 10.02

    Today 8.28

    How does that compare to real life Box Hill times then? (just curious)

    And how do I have a go in Zwift?

    crosshair
    Free Member

    8.21 v 10.04 for me but not sure how close the segments are?

    10.04 was on Ride London so I had a few miles in the legs…

    harrytoo
    Free Member

    nathb:

    [me 70kg + kit/bike/water/computer = 80kg roughly.]

    Are you talking about real life weight or Zwift weight? I thought rider weight was just the rider not including the ancillaries….

    weeksy
    Full Member

    How does that compare to real life Box Hill times then? (just curious)

    No idea, i don’t ride outside.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Sure it was a turbo and not an e-Bike you bought…

    Sorry Steve, as we found with the Garmin/Stages, my turbo at the time was under-reading by 50-70w for say 250w effort. So my times on segments now that i’d previously ridden on that turbo are coming down in chunks rather than the usual small increments through training and fitness increases. Obviously, now i’ve set my times on this turbo, dropping these times will be a lot harder.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    I thought rider weight was just the rider not including the ancillaries….

    i think your right. which is why my avatar hasnt got any socks or a helmet on. all those grams add up…

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