In the 90's I found hiking boots / gaiters / plastic toe clips fine. Why not now?
Up until a bout 3 years ago I found v brakes fine all winter but once I'd tried something better I didn't want to go back.
The irritation is that it doesn't need any great leap forward or even any development. There are plenty of good uppers and plenty of good soles that if combined would make a boot better than any of the compromises that people are using now.
If find the idea of a cycling specific flat shoe a bit odd tbh. the whole grip thing people go on about here is overrated, you don't need to be stuck to the peddles.
More to it than grip. I've tried a few different types of shoe over the years (been riding about 15 years, never on SPDs), from approach shoes to hill running shoes to skate shoes. I've had skate shoes that turned into sponges, approach shoes that provide no pedal feel and hill running shoes that were the perfect solution for 3 months until the soles were shredded and tore through. Currently running some Vibram soled Merrels - great for the weather, bloody useless on the pedals.
Really am fed up of having to settle for compromise in such a basic area as winter footwear, while simultaneously free to choose between a million different shock damper settings and tyre compound/tread pattern/size combinations. I'd trade all the fancy axle paths in the world for just one decent pair of riding shoes.
It isn't odd. It's a glaring gap in the market. Hill running shoes with pedal friendly soles is all I've been waiting for, personally. Something that copes with bad weather in the Peak. In a world of 50 different headset standards, a new riding sub genre appearing every time I blink and niches being invented and turned mainstream on an almost weekly basis, it's hard to see how flat pedal cross country riders have been overlooked. Not everybody out on the trails wants to clip in.
These AXO boots look like a decent possibility. Designed for riding motorbikes but with a skate style look, flat sole, Boa steel lacing system, no vents, coated leather.
jackthedog - Memberfair enough, each to their own, I don't see anything wrong with vibram soled goretex though, perfectly fine for winter riding, and summer for that matter.
If find the idea of a cycling specific flat shoe a bit odd tbh. the whole grip thing people go on about here is overrated, you don't need to be stuck to the peddles.
More to it than grip. I've tried a few different types of shoe over the years (been riding about 15 years, never on SPDs), from approach shoes to hill running shoes to skate shoes. I've had skate shoes that turned into sponges, approach shoes that provide no pedal feel and hill running shoes that were the perfect solution for 3 months until the soles were shredded and tore through. Currently running some Vibram soled Merrels - great for the weather, bloody useless on the pedals.Really am fed up of having to settle for compromise in such a basic area as winter footwear, while simultaneously free to choose between a million different shock damper settings and tyre compound/tread pattern/size combinations. I'd trade all the fancy axle paths in the world for just one decent pair of riding shoes.
It isn't odd. It's a glaring gap in the market. Hill running shoes with pedal friendly soles is all I've been waiting for, personally. Something that copes with bad weather in the Peak. In a world of 50 different headset standards, a new riding sub genre appearing every time I blink and niches being invented and turned mainstream on an almost weekly basis, it's hard to see how flat pedal cross country riders have been overlooked. Not everybody out on the trails wants to clip in.
vans do waterproof fleece lined?! winter skate shoes called weatherpack
eg baxter
these midtops look quite nice too
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to be honest cycling specific shoes, have always been a puzzle to me, many brands that are quite capable of making stylish shoes bring out biking shoes that either look orthopaedic or football boot meets ballet shoe
The Baxter Weather Pack look good... But could do with a higher top to keep more water out, a waterproof low shoe could also be described as a bucket I reckon.
5 10 definately have one on their radar, but it seems like everything else is a higher priority- including the trailbuilding shoe FFS.
I had an old pair of brasher gore tex walking boot resold with 5.10 rubber from feet first. Lasted about 6 years and used all year round. Never got wet cold feet!
passtherizla » what about fiveten SAR or Canyoneer?
I have a pair of canyoneers for kayaking. They are designed to drain quickly so are far from waterproof, designed to be work with drysuit socks or neoprene socks.
Neoprene socks with thin liner sock meet all my needs in any shoe. I use Crewsaver 3D which keep your feet reasonably warm if not completely dry.
Nike have just released an thier range of all conditions gear trainers and they look pretty good, not sure how weatherproof they are, but they are high top flat soled. Maybe i'll go look into them a bit more now, where does that guy get his ideas from that people riding flats are usually fat trail center types? Ive riden bikes my whole life on flats and have never been fat and i dont car much for trail centers either, just because im not squeezed into a goretex breathable triple layer seam taped spd pit vented condom doesnt mean im less of a effin rider than the next person, if i bought a 6 grand carbon road bike id put flats on that too
interesting thread...for the last few seasons I've been using
Scrapa Zen's , for a little more cash there's a Goretxt version availible. Vibram sticky rubber sole, and good quality build and aesthetics.
Must say I agree with the an earlier posters comment about some cycling shoes looking a bit 'special'!
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