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  • Edukator
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    Signing off as Gunter, Joey then Marcel suggests you are trolling. I hope this is the case.

    Edit: and now as a woman, Janice.

    yunki
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    She has no tattoos…

    I hope you’re 100% certain about that.. she could be lying about that too, or did you conduct a thorough inspection..?

    If not, you haven’t got a leg to stand on

    Premier Icon martinhutch
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    Bet no-one ever told her life was going to be this way – she’s broke, her job’s a joke, her love life’s DOA.

    uponthedowns
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    Frankly as a dog owner who has just gone through trying to find a rental property I have a lot of sympathy for the woman. It seems dog owners are automatically excluded from 90% of the rental market with the remaining 10% being at the sh!tty end. I discussed with my misses whether we should just lie but we decided to be honest and have finally found a suitable property (landlord is a dog owner herself) but it wasn’t easy. We’ve paid a larger deposit and have agreed to have the carpets professionally cleaned at the end of the let all of which a don’t have a problem with. Not quite sure why dogs are discriminated agianst more than say children. I’ve never had a dog that’s writen on the walls! To the OP please give her a chance she may well have been desperate. Just ask for a larger deposit and profrssional cleaning at the end of the let.

    Shibboleth
    Member

    Signing off as Gunter, Joey then Marcel suggests you are trolling. I hope this is the case.

    You wouldn’t understand…

    I hope you’re 100% certain about that.. she could be lying about that too, or did you conduct a thorough inspection..?

    You’re absolutely right – I took her word on this, and recent events obviously call this into question. Don’t fancy strip searching her though… 🙁

    Fun Bobby

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    If she is a good tenant otherwise then I would probably let it go.

    On another note I went to a zoo the other day and it was almost completely empty. All the had was one dog

    It was a Shitzu

    Tom Selleck

    Shibboleth
    Member

    Bet no-one ever told her life was going to be this way – she’s broke, her job’s a joke, her love life’s DOA.

    We have a winner! 😀

    Shibboleth
    Member

    To the OP please give her a chance she may well have been desperate. Just ask for a larger deposit and profrssional cleaning at the end of the let.

    Contrary to popular belief, I do have the ability to empathise – I just choose not to. The biggest problem is the bare-faced lies and trying to take advantage of my good nature by getting me to agree to one tiny tea-cup dog and then over-running the place with the bloody things!

    I’m afraid I can’t just let this go. I think I’m going to get a quote for a full deep clean and make her pay for that up front, plus additional deposit to cover replacing carpets if necessary.

    The Chick and The Duck

    Edukator
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    I’m sure I would understand if you explained clearly. You normally post things that are serious and/or vaguely amusing. I’m not smiling and hope you aren’t serious. perhaps an explanation would raise a smile or convince me you’re not being serious.

    munrobiker
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    My wife was a post grad student last year, and now works for a uni, and is home 90% of the time. She says she wished she’d been able to have a dog then as it’s the best opportunity she’ll have to look after one.

    My impression of this is that you’re being a malicious bellcheese for the sake of it.

    Richard

    Edukator
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    Google tells me they are Friends characters whatever Friends is.

    emsz
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    They’re the names of Friends characters Ed.

    Naked guy

    Premier Icon martinhutch
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    Google tells me they are Friends characters whatever Friends is.

    Trying Googling ‘Friends’.

    Junkyard
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    The biggest problem is the bare-faced lies and trying to take advantage of my good nature

    HAHAHAHAHAH

    Nice one

    I hope the dogs shit on your carpets and ruin the house- I could empathise I am just choosing not to 😛

    Smelly cat

    user-removed
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    That sounds reasonable. Having allowed one dog already you’re on a bit of a sticky wicket though…

    Shibboleth
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    Ed, quite a few threads on which Rachel (allthegear) posts descend into mild ribbing of her fondness for signing off with her signature.

    In this case, I thought it might lighten the mood if I signed off with characters’ names from Friends, and other posters have joined in.

    It is a fairly dull, serious thread, and I was looking for genuine advice on what to do – there’s a huge cross-section of people and opinions on here which are very helpful.

    And I thought it rather nice that we could all join in with a bit of an “in joke”, sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick and thought me flippant. 🙂

    Emily

    Edukator
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    I have now Googled Friends. :-/

    Premier Icon martinhutch
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    Now buy the box-set. It’ll change your life.

    Can’t believe it took this long to get to Smelly Cat, though.

    Shibboleth
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    Can’t believe it took this long to get to Smelly Cat, though.

    And slipped in so beautifully! Chapeau! And I genuinely LOL’d at being called a bellcheese! 😀

    Ursula Buffay

    Shibboleth
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    That sounds reasonable. Having allowed one dog already you’re on a bit of a sticky wicket though…

    Back on a slightly serious note, it was an informal verbal agreement – the tenancy agreement is clearly worded, no pets and not to be used for keeping any animals, reptiles, fish or birds.

    The Screamer

    chvck
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    I had to pay a significantly larger deposit and have to have the place professionally cleaned when I move out because I have a pet. I have no problem with it and thought that it was fairly standard practise! I have every intention of getting back every last penny of that deposit though…

    I only have a cat and it took me quite a while to find a place to rent that would tolerate me having her. I don’t condone it at all but I can see why someone might lie about having 3 dogs as I suspect the odds of finding somewhere that allows them would be pretty slim.

    emsz
    Member

    Poor Emily 😥

    Edukator
    Member

    I spent years renting then became a landlord. Perhaps that’s why I have a “my property, their home” approach which means I sleep easy at night and generally manage to settle differences out of court.

    Even when I had a tenant spending his money on sorting out family issues in the civil war in Ivory Coast rather than paying I just let it ride rather than going legal. He eventually left when EDF cut the power off.

    Shibboleth
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    I had to pay a significantly larger deposit and have to have the place professionally cleaned when I move out because I have a pet. I have no problem with it and thought that it was fairly standard practise!

    How “significantly larger” are we talking Chvck?

    Shibboleth
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    I’ve just let a house out, using a letting agent on a find-only basis (I’ve used them for about 5 years and always had a good relationship with them). When they said they’d found a tenant, they said she had one small Chihuahua dog, would that be a problem. I normally let properties on a no pets basis, but as everything else stacked up with this one, I said I’d allow the Chihuahua (this wasn’t put in writing).

    So this weekend, I was at the property supervising the felling of a tree, and she comes scuttling out with 3 dogs! One Chihuahua, one Shih tzu, and one Yorkie!

    Rung the letting agent this morning to ascertain who’s been telling me porkies, the agent insist it was the tenant. Then the tenant rings to apologise for lying and gives me some sob story about trying to rehome the dogs but having no luck (I think she’s lying more).

    So, what’s reasonable under the circumstances? There’s not a lot of good will on my part as she’s lied to me. Eviction would be a pain but she paid 6 months up front, so I’d return the remainder and look at keeping as much of the deposit as possible.

    Or, the agents mentioned imposing a supplementary charge for the dogs.

    Any wisdom? I’d like to stay on the right side of the STW Karma tight rope, but at the end of the day, I’m a landlord and we have fairly low expectations to live up to… 😉

    Premier Icon midlifecrashes
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    You either take it on the chin or you make a big deal, either way you learn to put everything in writing next time.

    Anyway, you are Mr Treeger and I claim my $5.

    DanW
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    Document everything and get everything in writing then you put yourself in the best possible possible come the end of tenancy.

    Deductions and the like come surely come at the time of moving out based on the condition of the property. If there have been breaches of contract by either side (assuming no pets is in the contract) then it makes it much easier for the Deposit Protection Scheme to allow X amount of the deposit to be used for cleaning/ replacement of items. Again, it is all about keeping accurate records, receipts, photos (need to be signed and dated by both parties) to back up your claims for deductions from the deposit.

    You did register the deposit with a Deposit Portection Scheme and take a comprehensive inventory signed by the tenant at the start of tenancy didn’t you…..?

    Tom B
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    Estelle

    Cheers

    Danny B

    chvck
    Member

    How “significantly larger” are we talking Chvck?

    50% more, this is in Oxford too so to me it’s a fairly significant sum!

    hora
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    She has tattoo’s? Anchors and sailor tats?

    Bernard x

    Shibboleth
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    You did register the deposit with a Deposit Portection Scheme and take a comprehensive inventory signed by the tenant at the start of tenancy didn’t you…..?

    Of course. All taken care of.

    Charlton Heston

    DanW
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    In that case document the dogs in some way as evidence of her breaching the contract and claim whatever puts you out of pocket at the end of the tenancy. Any worries beyond that?

    robdixon
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    it could actually work out quite well – assuming she’s a reliable tenant the OP may land up with her staying for quite a long time because of the lack of places that take dogs – the minimal extra hassle associated with her having pets could result in not having to deal with any void periods for a few years.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    In that case document the dogs in some way

    you could press them, like flowers?

    Dale Winton.

    mikey3
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    Kill them all.

    Edna Sharples.

    hora
    Member

    Robdixon has a point.

    Shabba Ranks

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Go and inspect the property, then come and whinge about it on here if you still feel the need.

    Premier Icon Imabigkidnow
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    So she has 3 dogs, but what about their health.

    My friends rent, they have a brain damaged cat and a healthy dog but the dog is uber well trained, though it’s a smallish garden and it’s burned out a bit. The cat is well trained too actually, but …

    … due to brain damage it wobbles as it walks, and falls over a lot. Means it uses it’s claws quite a bit more to keep upright and they have to clean up quite a bit after it’s been to the litter tray as it falls over in there frequently.

    They both work full time so this often means it’s when they get home after it’s been a few hours.

    I believe the landlord just knows it’s a cat .. nothing else.

    cheers
    Fun Bobby

    ti_pin_man
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    If it was me I would ask her to admit a portion of the rent will be needed to clean up/paint when she leaves AND then she can stay on the understanding that all but one of the dogs will be re-homed ASAP or the % increases. A good tenant is hard to find and this might be a good compromise.

    Mind, having said this, my tenant left saying she’d only left a few empty boxes in the cellar, I removed 9 car loads to the local tip when I went in and am now disputing the cost of this – it included a fridge, a single bed in various parts, tons of boxes and waste paper and bottles of strange yellow liquid purporting to be homebrew… of and a bookshelf and packling crates.

    nah… get shot of… serve her notice NOW! 😉

    Premier Icon verses
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    Bet no-one ever told her life was going to be this way – she’s broke, her job’s a joke, her love life’s DOA.

    ClapClap-ClapClap

    Cheers,
    BIG HEAD, BIG HEAD, BIG HEAD!

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