Mendip riding today , stopped at coffee shop in Shipham .The one outside table had 3 roadies sat at it and there was space for another person .So i pushed my bike over and was about to say room for a little 'un and all 3 blanked me ,didn't say a word and carried on talking amongst themselves .All the time i was there they totally ignored me which i thought was a bit off and rude .2 of them were wearing Bath cycle club riding gear , i wonder if it's the club's ethos to cultivate the them and us mentality ?After all it's all riding surely and each to their own ?I guess it's just typical of life in general and not everybody is as social as i am ?
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What is it with (some) roadies ?
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Posted 11 months ago #
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ah but you'll be having a lot more fun when riding than they will
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oldfart - they are just rude people, whether they are roadies or MTB is irrelevant, being a cock transcends how thick your tyres are.
All my clubmates do both and would be horrified to hear someone in the club had been such a tosser. Unless you were shagging one of their missus etc?
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I think the point here is that you said you were about to ask if you could sit with them. Maybe if you had asked the question they would have opened up and said yes.
I don't think it's a roadie V MTB thing, it's more about 3 mates sitting at a table and not really thinking about the people around them. I think it would have been nice if they had seen a fellow biker and offered you a seat.
If I am riding my MTB on the road in between off road riding I always say hi to any roadies I encounter, most say hi back. If they don't I would put it down to the person over the discipline.
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Moonhead - yah
before I saw the light I always said hello to mtbers - 2 wheels good etc - admittedly the way roadies say hello to each other can be subtle - but they do say it
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Even as a roadie I find plenty of other roadies who just can't be bothered to reply to a 'Hello' - there are just a lot of rude / unsociable people about....
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Yep I nearly always get blanked when saying hello even when out on the road bike - perhaps it's because I'm fat and don't wear skinny lycra? I find it's normally the younger guys in matching "team" kit who are the rudest, the older guys on old steel retro looking road bikes are always alright!
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Its funny, I was parking in a car park the other week and a guy with a car parked up next to me. I started chatting about his car, the car park and general banter, but he didn't seem interested and just walked away. Rudeness!
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winterfold,
Before you saw what light? What does that mean?
I'm not saying they stopped and shook my hand or actually say hello verbally, I can recognize a discrete nod. Doesn't always happen though. I don't care what someone is riding, or if they are lycra clad or commuting...no harm in a bit of a nod.
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the older guys on old steel retro looking road bikes are always alright!
that's me.
Young people are just a but rude though arent they? i try not to blame them for it, its just part of being young and insecure.. etc
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Moonhead, I dont agree.
All, and I mean all of the MTB riders I meet at trail centers speak to each other. Even if its just a nod and hello. Whether its on the trail, in the car park or in the caf.
I agree that there seems to be an issue with Roadies.
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2 separate roadies blanked me today (I was on roadbike too, but commuter with panniers) - i said a cheery 'hello!' they said f*** all.
Basic manners - or lack of.
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I had started to believe the "us & them" take on things. I get really peeved when I nod to roadies & they blank me. Then, when I think about it, I've greeted so many fellow mountain bikers with a cheery "hi", to be totally blanked in return ... all said & done, it's a common courtesy thing that isn't governed by the size of the wheels & the terrain that we ride ... It is about whether you're a sociable person or a miserable git!
A few years back I used to road ride, time trial & do club runs (before mountain biking was even heard of & cylocross was the best thing that ever appeared on Grandstand) ... I trained hard & put the miles in ... the big thing I've sussed about the difference between road & MTB since those days? Smiles! ... I ask, who's having the most fun?
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2 separate roadies
I think you'll find they are actually all part of the Borg.
Posted 11 months ago # -
you guys should try living in germany... then you'll know what being 'blanked' really means....
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There was this psycho in a car park the other day...he just wouldn't shut up. I'd parked up to stretch my legs and he started stalking me round the car park waffling on.... I scarpered rapidly...
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I swear at everyone I see on a bike, that way if they were going to ignore me I got a preemptive strike in and if not then my cunning disguise of wearing a big 'tache and a beret makes 'em think I'm monsieur tourette and I get away with it
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it's the individual
plenty of rude and ignorant people on all types of bikes
All, and I mean all of the MTB riders I meet at trail centers speak to each other. Even if its just a nod and hello. Whether its on the trail, in the car park or in the caf.
doesn't sound like the Glentress I've been to, full spectrum of manners on view there
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LOL @ Tazzy, Think I might adopt your approach.
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Konastoner - Member
ShiteAll, and I mean all of the MTB riders I meet at trail centers speak to each other. Even if its just a nod and hello. Whether its on the trail, in the car park or in the caf.
I agree that there seems to be an issue with Roadies.
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Jesus. I don't speak to every runner, pedestrian, motorist, road or mtb cyclist I come across in day to day activities, Not sure why I'd single out single out roadies though. Frankly I have better things to do than exchange pleasantries with some stranger. If I'm catching up with a couple of old mates over a beer I don't want some wierdo pusing in on the scene, don't see why your scenario is any different. Get over it.
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Oldfart
I wouldn't want to condone general rudeness, but just because you also had a bicycle doesn't mean that three random blokes should make room for you on their table and be nice and chatty really does it? I mean, if they all had hats on, and you walked up with a hat, you wouldn't expect them to ask you to join them would you?
To be honest there's a lot of threads on here that seem to perpetuate this strange myth of rude roadies, and seem to add fuel to this ongoing fire. I think it actually ends up being self-fulfilling prophecy for some people, ie they expect road cyclists to be rude, therefore they often find them that way etc.
Of course, they could well have been a trio of self important kn*bheads too.
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@djglover- typed like a man who hasn't had enough hugs in his life, maybe you should relax more, have you tried some nice breathing exercises
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Konastoner - Member
All, and I mean all of the MTB riders I meet at trail centers speak to each other. Even if its just a nod and hello. Whether its on the trail, in the car park or in the caf.
I agree that there seems to be an issue with Roadies.
Shite
Must be a Welsh thing then.
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i wonder if it's the club's ethos to cultivate the them and us mentality ?
Ha ha! Interesting you should say that
Can't say too much here, suffice to say I'm a Bath CC member and now lead rides on the road but came to the club from a pure MTB background. Yes, it's fair to say the club is 'road orientated' (focussed on Sat and Sun club runs and TTs) and some in the club are amongst that minority of roadies who like you said for some daft reason don't count 'mountain biking' as cycling..
.. in fact I think I can even guess who they were? One on a flash orange and black carbon Storck.. in fact I can almost guarantee who they were.. I bumped into them this morning at 9am and they were off to Clevedon. In fact I was on my bestest road bike but wearing a mud splattered peaky lid and they did their best to ignore me
If I'd have been there I'd have moved over and insist you join us and asked you how the trails were. I've joined the Committee (or rather turned up and suggested they co-opt me) and even organised our recent Weds night 'Midsomer Madness' event 'in association' with Bath and all the other local clubs (Walcot, Somer Valley and the Black Canon Collective).
Don't lose any sleep over it Oldfart, it's them who missed out on your company not vicky versi
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Must be a Welsh thing then.
even less credible?
pray tell the rest of us where these trail centre's of niceness are which people who ride road bikes never go to
Posted 11 months ago # -
Perhaps they were actually not roadies, but triathletes? They can be proper rude.
I went past a whole stream of them, with their fancy carbon bikes, aero bars and space-age helmets on Sunday. I said hello, waved, all sorts.
Nothing.
Unpleasant lot. I was glad when it started to rain on them.
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@djglover- typed like a man who hasn't had enough hugs in his life, maybe you should relax more, have you tried some nice breathing exercises
My house is hug central, two charming twin toddlers to provide that, time spent with mates though is rare and quite precious to me, random wierdos are not welcome!
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random wierdos are not welcome!
Posted 11 months ago # -
it's all in the numbers. There were 3 roadies and you would have been a spare part in a spit roast
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Young people are just a but rude though arent they? i try not to blame them for it, its just part of being young and insecure.. etc
Dunno I'm only 22 and say hello to other riders when I'm out.. Most of those who seem about my age or a bit older don't though.
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doesn't sound like the Glentress I've been to, full spectrum of manners on view there
Completely agree with this, with a big caveat; it's a very different place through the week, on night rides, through the winter or generally when it's quiet.
I think it's just because there are so many people there everyone just stops speaking to others. There definitely is a very different vibe on a busy weekend to the above mentioned times. May also be that a lot of the weekend riders are newbies and the regulars don't want to associate with them
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The roadie world can be very cliquey and although getting better, some clubs are still like this.
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Do you have a racing license? You need a racing license to sit at certain tables during some parts of the season. Also if your bike had disk brakes then sitting at their table would be in contravention of UCI road regulations.
People join clubs because they can't make friends and once they're in a club it saves them the embarassment of having to speak to other people. That's why they didn't speak to you
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