brant – Member
I wasn’t there in 2010.
is that in reply to the comment about the first reviewer or because you want to distance yourself from the C456? 😉
tbh my thoughts on the frame…
Going slow over bumpy stuff then yes the back end is harsh – but then it’s a hard tail – duh!
Going fast over bumpy stuff and the difference to an aluminium XC frame (never mind one built to take abuse) is night and day. Hit the bumps faster (and harder) and the frame absorbs the impacts.
The best way to feel the compliance though is to land from a jump – you can really feel the seat stays and back end of the chainstays flex.
Torsional and lateral stiffness – this thing stays where you put it – no noodly back end and as soon as you put your weight on the pedals it transfers it to the back wheel without delay.
but I do have bad points – the 16″ frame head tube is too short. Really annoyed me (and still does).
The chainstays could have been made a bit more flexy I reckon without losing too much strength to be a problem. They are very slab sided – but obviously making them more flexy could make it worse to pedal.
The front of the frame is very stiff – yes your fork should be doing all of the work reducing bumps up into your arms from the front wheel but maybe there is a bit of arm abuse/chatter coming up from the rear wheel. But as above this is worst when going quite slowly as it’s simply a characteristic of a hard tail and the only way to get rid of it is a really flexy rear end.
Yes it’s not velvety smooth – not ridden a nice steel or Ti frame so con’t compare but I just dropped my tyre pressure which has helped a lot with both bumps and grip and ride it harder as it seems to work better the harder you hit stuff.