hora – Member
Do you know the song words that they used and sang in there.

Yes, do you?

Btw, what’s a ‘plastic-liberal’?

I’m really enjoying this winter Olympics. What they are doing just irritates

Indeed Hora spoiling a perfectly good sporting event by highlighting human rights issues….who could not be irritated by this?
Thank god you have perspective and fired one off at the “plastic liberals” and brought up the Countryside alliance – I mean who cannot see the similarities between these two groups?

* I bet you have to google her

I did not

there are far more important issues right now than a silly protest met by heavy handed policing.

you can say that about most issues including the Scottish referendum thread

+ 1 on NW on hiw folk complain about protesters seeking publicity

im a plastic liberal

You were the one who seemed to want to sexualise the issue by brining up the whipping in a festishistic ( is that a word) manner hence my question. If you feel that was an insult you might want to get out more

by highlighting human rights issues

What were they singing? Again, people on here read the media but dont actually listen or read what they sang in the church.

Forgetting this- they do look like a bunch of amateur muppets shouting merely for attention/to shock.

If they really were trying to get a message across they’d talk/do interviews/write bloggs/move outside Russia/not dress up like they do and basically act really amateurist.

As for the ‘Cossack whips can do alot of damage. Do you see how that one bloke was using his? You or I could show him how to use it to hurt someone- it wouldn’t take much effort.

On the bundling/moving them roughly- Police here do this daily with protesters of all classes and causes.

No fella, you asked if I had a thing against ‘women’. I have a thing against idiots.

hora – Member

What were they singing?

Virgin Mary, Mother of God, banish Putin
Banish Putin, Banish Putin!

Congregations genuflect
Black robes brag, golden epaulettes
Freedom’s phantom’s gone to heaven
Gay Pride’s chained and in detention

The head of the KGB, their chief saint
Leads protesters to prison under escort
Don’t upset His Saintship, ladies
Stick to making love and babies

Crap, crap, this godliness crap! [or shit, shit, the lord’s shit]
Crap, crap, this holiness crap! [or shit, shit, this holy shit]

[Chorus]
Virgin Mary, Mother of God
Become a feminist, we pray thee
Become a feminist, we pray thee

Bless our festering bastard-boss
Let black cars parade the Cross
The Missionary’s in class for cash
Meet him there, and pay his stash

Patriarch Gundyaev believes in Putin
Better believe in God, you vermin!
Fight for rights, forget the rite –

Join our protest, Holy Virgin

[Chorus]
Virgin Mary, Mother of God, banish Putin, banish Putin
Virgin Mary, Mother of God, we pray thee, banish him!

Again, all about context. Take a single line and you can make it something it’s not.

hora – Member
If they really were trying to get a message across they’d talk/do interviews/write bloggs/move outside Russia/not dress up like they do and basically act really amateurist.

How would that get their message across? Who would pay attention.

And what better place to sing about state influence and corruption in the church, than in the church?

To save any need to Google the “offending lyrics”
(Chorus)

St. Maria, Virgin, Drive away Putin
Drive away! Drive away Putin!

(end chorus)

Black robe, golden epaulettes
All parishioners are crawling and bowing
The ghost of freedom is in heaven
Gay pride sent to Siberia in chains

The head of the KGB is their chief saint
Leads protesters to prison under escort
In order not to offend the Holy
Women have to give birth and to love

Holy shit, shit, Lord’s shit!
Holy shit, shit, Lord’s shit!

(Chorus)

St. Maria, Virgin, become a feminist
Become a feminist, Become a feminist

(end chorus)

Church praises the rotten dictators
The cross-bearer procession of black limousines
In school you are going to meet with a teacher-preacher
Go to class – bring him money!

Patriarch Gundyaev believes in Putin
Bitch, you better believed in God
Belt of the Virgin is no substitute for mass-meetings
In protest of our Ever-Virgin Mary!

(Chorus)

St. Maria, Virgin, Drive away Putin
Drive away! Drive away Putin!

(end chorus)

Not sure you would get sent to prison for singing that or it’s equivalent in St Pauls

No fella, you asked if I had a thing against ‘women’. I have a thing against idiots.

Ah a self-harmer

Can’t argue with that really.

Unless you’re hora, or the like, of course…

Told ya. 😆

😆 @ yossarian

they do look like a bunch of amateur muppets shouting merely for attention/to shock

Your self awareness is at stellar levels today Hora

What do you think most folk think of you ?

I have a thing against idiots.

Wow you surpassed yourself

Still your getting the attention you crave whilst moaning about people doing stupid stiff for attention

I wish it was intentional as it is at Brass eye levels

Lifer thats not the literal translation.

Yossarian

Schools out

Lifer thats not the literal translation.

You understand how translation works, right?

Still your getting the attention you crave whilst moaning about people doing stupid stiff for attention

It’s close to genius

“Plastic Liberal” will become a catch phrase on STW like “big hitter” etc history has been made 😆

hora – Member
Lifer thats not the literal translation.

Well come on then, put up/shut up.

Still your getting the attention you crave

You mean disagreeing with the opinion of big hitters? One voices up then a number batter him down?

http://freepussyriot.org/content/lyrics-songs-pussy-riot

Ever so slightly different from the Guardian but with the word ‘the’.

This changes EVERYTHING

hora – Member
You mean disagreeing with the opinion of big hitters? One voices up then a number batter him down?

😆 You are a big hitter!

Nice link, so you agree they didn’t say ‘god is shit’?

I’M A BIG HITTER and a plastic liberal! I need a lie down.

Holy shit, shit, Lord’s shit!

and

Shit, shit, the Lord’s shit!

No a big hitter grinds another down with the weight and unremitting ability to keep going/arguing when the other party gives up. The amount of times I said to TJ- ‘I can’t argue with you, you’ll eventually grind me down into submission’.

Again I’m out- worn me out. As with Junkyard on any disgusting slagging off of Margaret Thatcher on here- he’ll keep going all day long. I can’t. Its draining.

Nice flounce. Bye xxx

Hah we cossacked him good eh boys?!

Hora, not being funny but “The Lord” in the song is obviously Putin nyet? When you look at the whole thing, calling on the virgin mary to drive putin out isn’t a very anti-religious message, and though other bits criticise the church, it’s the institution not the faith.

Hora when the grown ups point out you are being immature for attention you slag us off then flounce…well if that wont prove us wrong what will ?
Imagined being crushed under the oppressive weight of the state big hitters and unable to speak out …again it could be Brass eye levels of irony then again it could be just Hora

The Lord’s shit, as in the shit of the Lord.

and

Lord’s shit, as in the shit of the Lord.

Is how I take it in the context of the rest of the song. It’s talking about the men who’ve enabled the state to take over the church as another instrument.

Especially compared with other lines like:

‘Patriarch Gundyaev believes in Putin
Bitch, better believe in God instead’

‘Mary, Mother of God, is with us in protest!’

and the refrain

‘Virgin Mary, Mother of God, put Putin away.’

Ah, from the ladies themselves:

“It is an idiomatic expression, related to the previous verse – about the fusion of Moscow patriarchy and the government. ‘Holy shit’ is our evaluation of the situation in the country.”

Consider me corrected! Point stands though, it’s not an attack on God in a church.

Meanwhile, in other news, attractive friend of Nazi-themed orgy-goer airs his expert opinion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/20/bernie-ecclestone-vladimir-putin-gay-rights_n_4823475.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

I see a Russian GP on the horizon…

Which has nothing to do with his plans to take F1 to Russia.

I see a Russian GP on the horizon…

I see it at the bottom of woppit’s link

(I know it’s bad form to actually read links but meh)

(I know it’s bad form to actually read links but meh)

I made it halfway down, then I remembered what an odious little tosspot he is and sacked it.
You don’t need a link to know Bernie’s motivation..

woppit, ecclestone or putin? 😉

That’s excellent, via this thread I’ve learned that Pussy Riot aren’t brave for protesting when they know they’re likely to end up in jail, but Putin is brave for being homophobic and using his politbureau, army and police to back him up.

Amnesty International arrest of activists/pussy riot

2 fair points khani 🙂

^^ Perfect 😆

Anyone sticking fingers in the eyes of corrupted establishments is good to go by me. If more people did stuff like that the world would be a much better place.

I think their name is brilliant, my FIL cant even say it out loud 😆

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism