I'm sorry to break the bad news - Star Wars 7...
Nothing wrong with it IMO, as has been said Disney have done a pretty good job with the Marvel franchise films, it's as though people are expecting Mickey and Goofy to appear in the new films or something...
Lucas is good at the big ideas, overall story concepts etc.
He's terrible at scripts and characterisation. He also picked Hayden Christiansen to play Anakin Skywalker which means he's demonstrably terrible at casting too.
One of the reason Raiders of the Lost Ark is such a good film is that Lucas was only responsible for the story the script and direction were handled by others.
So a Disney / Lucas Star Wars with Lucas in charge of the basic story arc and other people involved in the direction etc could be good
I've just about got over the prequels. Just about. I can only hope, as has been said above, that without Lucas controlling everything they may actually manage to produce something close to Empire.
If not at least blow Jar Jar Binks out an airlock.
Like others have said might be a good thing.
Out of 6 films only one has stood the test of time for me.
Put aside how you felt when you was 10... and only Empire Strikes Back is really any good.
The worst part about II and III is Hayden Christiansen. But then again I suppose it continues the tradition of quality supporting actors bravely trying to ignore the awful lead performances
To me, the prequels just reminded me that they are only films, with some good and bad parts. Just a bit of fun to enjoy for what it is, crap acting, dodgy prequels and all. Consequently, I will look forward to the postquels with a big grin and a bucket of popcorn
best case scenario: We get more Star Wars films
Worst case (and most likely) scenario: We get more Phantom Menace type Star Wars films
Since Episode 4 became a hit it's just been about making money, this comes as no more a surprise than the inclusion of Jar Jar Binks.
Star Wars films are unfortunately now aimed squarely at the kids, primarily as a vehicle to market the merchandise. I doubt this will change as it's just too lucrative.
Im happy that Disney have taken over. Can't really see where all the elitist/filmist huffety tuffety is coming from.
They are just films, just stories told.
Now't more than that.
Do Disney have a history of forcing their subsidiary companies to create crap?
They don't do that with Pixar.
they dont need to force, judging by what lucasfilm have done these past few movies. (INDY (ugh), EP1-3 and that flying one directed by Lucas- red kites was it called???)
Neil Blomkamp, Joss Whedon, Gore Verbinski... Just imagine a really good director getting to play with Star Wars.
Oh god, imagine giving the SW franchise to Joss.
Sorry. I'll clean that up.
great PR by disney would be to remaster 4,5 & 6 back to there original state.
Agreed - a proper Blu ray release of the original release versions would be a good start
If I was in charge I'd "reboot" episodes 1 to 3, so we can just forget phantom menace etc ever existed
What's the big deal? The entire legacy was pi$$ed on when the prequels were made. No point in complaining now as its pretty much over anyway.
Whilst they were amazing at the time and i used to be a bit of a fanboy, in hindsight a link with Disney is probably justified. Remember the Ewoks???
There always had to be prequels, otherwise Star Wars would have been Episode 1, not 4. It's just a shame that someone couldn't have stuck a Desert Eagle in the back of Lucas' head and forced him to back away from the typewriter. His scriptwriting and characterisation is woeful, and ever since the days of Buffy I've thought that Joss Whedon should have been at least given script duties.
Do I need to change/increase my medication, or was there just a lightsabre fight at the end of Channel 4 news ?
Why do Star Wars Fans hate Star Wars?
By: Adam Summers 5/23/05
My girlfriend doesn’t understand what I see in Star Wars. We’ve had several soul-crushing arguments about what exactly makes this series so important to me, and every time I have found it more and more difficult to argue my case. As the maddening years have wound on, I think I finally understand the reason for this crippling handicap.
There is a diabolical twist to Star Wars fandom, you see, that defies comprehension, and yet is the life-blood of all Star Wars fans. It is this:
Star Wars fans hate Star Wars.
If you run into somebody who tells you they thought the franchise was quite enjoyable, and they very-much liked the originals as well as the prequels, and even own everything on DVD, and a few of the books, these imposters are not Star Wars Fans.
Star Wars fans hate Star Wars.
The primary fulcrum for the Star Wars fan’s hate (including my own) is George Lucas, creator of Star Wars. Unlike Trekkies/Trekkers who adore Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, Star Wars fans hate the father of their obsession. We hate the fact that George Lucas got it wrong from the beginning, creating incest between Luke and Leia. We hate the fact that he wrenched Return of the Jedi off of Kashyyyk and set it on Endor with those tiny, furry Hobbit bitches he called “Ewoks”, which is a syllabic anagram of Wookiee if you’re obsessed enough. We despise the entire existence of literally half of the Star Wars movies, blaming George Lucas’ greed and flawed ‘vision’ for everything.
We believe George Lucas’ ideal death time was 2:07am, 14 November, 1990.
Star Wars fans also hate the original Star Wars trilogy. We think Mark Hamill’s acting was whiny, the pacing was flawed, and Empire was better than Jedi, making the end of the series a let-down. We hate the way Boba Fett died, and we hate the cantankerous, arthritic duel between Vader and Obi-wan. We don’t understand why the storm-troopers can’t shoot worth a damn, and we don’t get why “an entire legion of [the Emperor’s] best troops”(ROTJ, Palpatine) can be overpowered by a tribal society of midget teddy-bears armed largely with rocks and twigs. Star Wars fans hate omnipotent war-machines that get their legs tangled in strings, or slip on logs. They hate Darth Vader’s face and that stupid harmonica thing he was playing. Star Wars fans hate the original Star Wars trilogy.
There is also, as you probably know, a series of Special Editions that have replaced the original Star Wars trilogy, and these are also hated by Star Wars fans with an even more scorching fervor. Star Wars fans hate the glaring CG changes made to scenes we already hated to begin with. We hate that Han Solo now killed Greedo in self-defense, and then stepped on Jabba the Hutt’s tail (which we liken to Carrot Top stepping on Fidel Castro’s tail). We hate the fact that the ghost of Alec Guinness (whose name is an anagram of Genuine Class, by the way) now stands next to Hayden Christensen (whose name I tried to re-arrange into a flattering anagram myself, but only came up with “Nn…Dense Chest Hair”). Star Wars fans are unsure if Fidel Castro has a tail or not, but we hate the Special Editions of the trilogy just the same.
There is of course also a prequel trilogy to Star Wars. It is newer, more epic, more expensive, and more visually stunning than the original trilogy. Star Wars fans know this, and so we hate it even more. We hate it with the burning passion of a setting pair of twin suns. Jar Jar Binks, Midichlorians, technology that is blatantly more sophisticated than the “later” original trilogy…we despise all of it. There’s nothing a Star Wars fan hates more than a Star Wars prequel. They demystified Boba Fett, contradicted countless lines in the original trilogy (Obi-Wan: “He was our only hope.” Yoda: “No…there is another.” Obi-Wan (not in script): “Oh, right, I f*cking held both of these kids as they were born in Episode 3. Sorry Yoda, I just plumb forgot!”)
Star Wars fans think Mark Ha…uh…Hayden Christensen’s acting was whiny. And the pacing was flawed.
Beyond the movies, there are also various television-related Star Wars endeavors which Star Wars fans despise. Starting with that abysmal “Holiday Special” in which Carrie Fisher appeared drunk and tried to celebrate Christmas through song in a Jesus-less galaxy, Star Wars fans have watched and hated everything. We think Droids was a waste of time, Ewok Adventures was an extension of everything we hated about Return of the Jedi, and we’ve seen both seasons of Clone Wars which we hate because we believe them to be immensely inconsistent with the prequels we also hate.
Star Wars fans think the Star Wars comic-books are a stockpile of contrivance written for marketing purposes by people who know nothing about Star Wars. Every gimmick imaginable to bring back super-weapons long destroyed and token bad-guys long-beaten is spewed forth from these comic books, and Star Wars fans want nothing to do with it. Star Wars fans have read the one in which Han Solo works in tandem with a giant rabbit and we are not impressed.
Then, naturally, there are the videogames. Star Wars fans hate LucasArts, and the opportunist drivel that comprises most of the gameplay-less apertures known as Star Wars games that they vomit up every fiscal quarter. Star Wars fans know that there is no such thing as a good Star Wars strategy game, we yelled at our PS1 when Masters of Teras-Kasi came out, and we kind-of liked the Jedi Knight series, but not at first and definitely not towards the end. Star Wars fans did not like Knights of the Old Republic, unless they were RPG fans. This does not count. Star Wars fans hate Star Wars videogames.
The final main elixir of Star Wars folklore is the ever-growing library of Star Wars books. These have managed to make a complex main character our of practically every background alien seen in the movies, and expanded the universe into a colossal, self-contradictory maze. Star Wars fans hate this. We hate how trite and tired the books were getting before the New Jedi Order series, and we hate the New Jedi Order series for being so radically different, and not nearly trite or tired enough. Star Wars fans hate it when previously-deceased characters are brought back to life, but we also hate Timothy Zahn for not bringing his characters back to life. Star Wars fans did not hate Grand Admiral Thrawn, but we do now, because he is always dead. The Star Wars movies also contradict and completely ignore droves of information within the Star Wars books. Star Wars fans now know that George Lucas has no idea who Jaster Mareel is, and it makes us very angry. Star Wars fans hate Star Wars books.
Now that I have covered all of this, you can finally begin to compute why I can never prove to Emily that Star Wars is a monumental event worth devoting one’s life to. The very nature of the argument means I have to defend Star Wars, and since I am a Star Wars fan, I don’t actually understand how to do that.
Maybe I’ll put it like this. To be a Star Wars fan, one must possess the ability to see a million different failures and downfalls, and then somehow assemble them into a greater picture of perfection. Every true Star Wars fan is a Luke Skywalker, looking at his twisted, evil father, and somehow seeing good.
My earlier statement needs slight revision. We hate everything about Star Wars.
But the idea of Star Wars…the idea we love.
Maybe they will let Seth MacFarlane do it, his versions were like a million light years better.
I know why I hate New Star Wars, cos it's crap, and people think it's science fiction, which is isn't therefore they think all science fiction must be crap. Which it isn't.
Although I must confess the Empire Strikes Back is a great film. But that's the only one.
This made for some interesting reading
no grand admiral thrawn
butmaybe hamil and fisher
and all proceeds go to charideee
even after all the sillyness in eps i-iii
im still quite excited
They won't release the originals on Blu-Ray 'cos Fox still own the rights. But Whedon... Star Wars...
Good post from PrinceJohn.
I wonder if part of being a movie geek is trying to validate oneself by attacking the creators of the movies..?
These people do seem to be able to create a remarkable amount of vitriol online.
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