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Has anyone been on the Alpha Course?

  • 751 posts & 110 voices | Started 2 years ago by steelfan | Latest reply from simonfbarnes

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  1. IanMunro - Member

    if I try and live my life according to what I believe to be true i.e. try and be a true Christian and when I die I find it was all a con, then the worst that's happened is I've hopefully led a good life - however, the flip-side is that if the Bible teaching is correct and it is the case that Heaven and Hell does exist and that a decision is required which can't be made after death then I wouldn't want to have not made an informed choice.

    As I've pointed out before, the flipside is that you've been following the wrong book, and the wrong religion, and that the gods that you should have been worshipping are really pissed off with you.
    Surely you realise this as an equally valid possibility?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. thegreatape - Member

    Mr Woppit - Member

    Insanity is, as I think I already remarked, repeating the same action again and again.....

    An explanation of insanity and a demonstration of irony in the same sentence.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. Mr Woppit - Member

    Yes.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. vinnyeh - Member

    if I try and live my life according to what I believe to be true i.e. try and be a true Christian and when I die I find it was all a con, then the worst that's happened is I've hopefully led a good life - however, the flip-side is that if the Bible teaching is correct and it is the case that Heaven and Hell does exist and that a decision is required which can't be made after death then I wouldn't want to have not made an informed
    choice.

    Well, that takes the cake. The most hypocritical, fence sitting view of all, imo. Akin to a deathbed 'conversion'. How can you say you believe in something, then say that there's a possibility that it's not true. Anyone would think you're only in it for the afterlife benefits. mtfu, you're either in or out.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. simonfbarnes - Member

    Can someone provide a synopsis..?

    doesn't that rather miss the point ? It's a journey of discovery...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. saxabar - Member

    mtfu, you're either in or out.

    Brilliant. I love the idea of Jesus telling his disciples to MTFU. 24hr marathons, pah! 40 days and 40 nights is where it's at.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. ernie_lynch - Member

    It's a journey of discovery...

    Agreed. Well it's been a journey of discovery for me. I've discovered just how much of a hypocrite you are.

    IE, after claiming not to give people's religious views any sort of special treatment, you then dedicate almost a week of your life to slagging them off.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. higgo - Member

    Pretty soon we're going to need an Alpha course for this very thread...
    1: Who is Ernie?
    2: Why didn't Whopit die?
    3: Why and how should I read the whole thread?
    4: How does Tyger guide us?
    5: How can I resist SFB?
    6: Why and how should I warn others?
    etc...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. Dobbo - Member

    IE, after claiming not to give people's religious views any sort of special treatment, you then dedicate almost a week of your life to slagging them off.

    That's only true if SFB doesn't spend a week on any other threads slagging other things off, therefore your argument is void.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. Junkyard - Member

    I've discovered just how much of a hypocrite you are.

    As opposed to you who said religion could make their own rules up and then told Loula Belle she was a hypocrit for her brand and was going to hell...we have missed your trolling /banter with Barnes ernie welcome back...dont let facts or consistency stop you now you are on a roll.

    a God who created all the natural wonders we have (not to mention life itself)

    Presumably he also made all the bad things then as well like say earth quakes, child deaths, slow painful deaths from cancer, senile dementia, juvenile Leukaemia the child rapists, Adolf Hitler, pain suffering and death.... the list is endless is it not so why just see the good in the world he created?

    if I try and live my life according to what I believe to be true i.e. try and be a true Christian and when I die I find it was all a con, then the worst that's happened is I've hopefully led a good life

    There are 5 main world religions.. all of them claiming to be the one true god (or Gods in the case of Sikhism). Therefore at least 4 of them are wrong. So if (and it is a very big if) one of them is correct the probability is that you have actually worshipped the wrong God/s and I bet god is more annoyed at those who have worshipped a false god rather than those that have not worshipped any. Chances are we will meet in Hell (well not me as I have not been baptised so cannot be judged

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. Rusty Spanner - Member

    Religion is an opinion.

    As such, it is open to the same analysis, question and ridicule as any other opinion.

    As for it being some 'special' kind of opinion that deserves different treatment from any other, well that's just playing into the hands of the deluded.
    There is no right not to be offended.

    All opinions, no matter how seemingly rational or deluded NEED to be challenged on a regular basis - it's how our human consciousness evolves.

    Post reformation, we are allowed to discuss this issue rationally without the threat of death, but in some countries, questioning religious dogma still leads to death and torture.

    Please think about this next time you get a bit offended because someone accuses you of believing in Faeries. That's the price you pay for BEING ABLE to believe in them.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. Dobbo - Member

    Akin to a deathbed 'conversion'.

    It always makes me laugh when you see murderers, rapists, child killers etc. on death row or in for life, that all of a sudden turn to religion... then a few years later you get someone like Lord Longford or Frank Bruno singing their praises and saying they need to be understood and given compassion.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. Rusty Spanner - Member

    Oh, and if you attempt to make the rest of us believe in them too, please expect the ridicule to be harsher and frankly, more thoroughly deserved than it would otherwise have been.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. thegreatape - Member

    There are 5 main world religions.. all of them claiming to be the one true god (or Gods in the case of Sikhism). Therefore at least 4 of them are wrong.

    Which are the 5 main religions? Would I be correct in assuming that you include Christianity, Judaism and Islam in that 5? If so, do they not all believe in the same God (the God of Abraham for want of a better term)?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. ernie_lynch - Member

    Junkyard - Member

    then told Loula Belle she was ........... going to hell

    Junkyard, you are obviously going repeat that as your standard reply to everything I say.
    Because presumably, you can't think of anything else to say.

    Which I have to confess, gives me a warm feeling of satisfied smugness

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. higgo - Member

    Would I be correct in assuming that you include Christianity, Judaism and Islam in that 5? If so, do they not all believe in the same God (the God of Abraham for want of a better term)?

    They may all believe in the same God but they're not always the best of friends. And will happily exclude each other from their own heaven. Christians, for example, require one to "accept jesus as saviour" (or something like that) to get a ticket to the big party. Not many Jews or Muslims would do that.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. Aristotle - Member

    Let us have a show of hands:

    How many non-believers have been persuaded to go to the Alpha Course by this thread?

    How many believers have been convinced that their blind faith in an un-provable religion is wrong?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. thegreatape - Member

    Quite. The conflict between Judaism and Islam has always makes me think of squabbling children. Christianity maybe slightly different since it follows on from the Old Testament, but I suppose the disharmony between Catholic and Protestant is not dissimilar.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. simonfbarnes - Member

    IE, after claiming not to give people's religious views any sort of special treatment, you then dedicate almost a week of your life to slagging them off.

    Who have I slagged off ? Most of the time on the thread I've been responding to comments or advancing theories. But this hasn't been "most of my life this week", just an occasional entertaining diversion. And forgive me, but I don't consider this to be special treatment - this is the topic we happen to be on, and I'm running with it. Another week it might be hifi or sports nutrition - however, one might suppose the the underpinning philosophy of life deserves more attention...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. thegreatape - Member

    I'll have a guess Aristotle!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. Aristotle - Member

    Is that a weapons training course?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. samuri - Member

    Let us have a show of hands:

    How many non-believers have been persuaded to go to the Alpha Course by this thread?

    How many believers have been convinced that their blind faith in an un-provable religion is wrong?

    Precisely. People who have already made their minds up are pretty much there for good. Religion attracts people who are undecided, have never even thought about it or who are suffering from some form of mental/sprititual crisis.

    Atheism however, never took advantage of someone in a low place.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. Bimbler - Member

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. Junkyard - Member

    Which are the 5 main religions? Would I be correct in assuming that you include Christianity, Judaism and Islam in that 5? If so, do they not all believe in the same God (the God of Abraham for want of a better term)?

    Well I would agree with that but if you want to persuade the Jews and the Arabs (Perhaps you could start in Israel) that they worship the same God then best of luck to you.

    ernie_lynch - Member
    Junkyard - Member
    then told Loula Belle she was ........... going to hell
    Junkyard, you are obviously going repeat that as your standard reply to everything I say.
    Because presumably, you can't think of anything else to say.
    Which I have to confess, gives me a warm feeling of satisfied smugness

    I am flattered that your inability to answer the question makes you smug ernie... It really impresses me I am in awe of you and your hypocrisy and it makes me feel all warm inside to know I am helping to contribute to this. Someone has answered my prayers

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. simonfbarnes - Member

    and I bet god is more annoyed at those who have worshipped a false god

    well, one might hope for gods to be less petty that we are...
    and if there are any and they have stipulations then they can spin on them.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. samuri - Member

    It's a nice story but I'm afraid Christians had a pretty poor imagination. Hinduism, now those guys knew how to create a god. Lets take Ganesh for example. Bloke with an elephant's head. Rides round on the back of a rat. Snapped one of his tusks off to write the Mahabaratha.

    Sweet.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. Aristotle - Member

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. thegreatape - Member

    Well I would agree with that but if you want to persuade the Jews and the Arabs (Perhaps you could start in Israel) that they worship the same God then best of luck to you.

    I can't today mate, going into town for a haircut then having some teeth out. Another time maybe.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. buzz-lightyear - Member

    Dobbo:

    worst advert ... you still don't sound like you're convinced

    As I said, I'm not interested in converting people, or promoting religion in any way. I just want to love God, and not be ridiculed for it

    Convinced? Of course I'm not convinced. It's faith.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. barnsleymitch - Member

    SfB - I think youre needed over on the 'has anyone done a ouija board' thread - you might like to invite that nice ernie as well...
    I'll pop the kettle on.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  31. Mr Agreeable - Member

    And Hindu holy men tend to be crazy mud-smeared tramps. That's definitely another point in their favour.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  32. Aristotle - Member

    Posted 2 years ago #
  33. tyger - Member

    The wise man mocks the man.
    The mocked man mocks the mocker!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  34. Mr Agreeable - Member

    accept God's forgiveness

    Let's be honest here. That doesn't mean a Quaker-style belief in God in a personal sense does it? That means get involved with organised religion, attend a church, and do what the bloke at the front of it tells you to do.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  35. barnsleymitch - Member

    Aristotle - where's that t-shirt from?

    Posted 2 years ago #

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